Ram with Samsung TCCD - Listing

[TEDY]

lol and "OCZ"

[perkam]

Admit it, you just want the fancy heat speaders, don't you?

Actually, nowadays with so many memory manufacturers from around the world flooding the market, I find it helpful that good memory heatspreaders narrow down the choice for high quality ram (be it tight timings or highest speed-rated memory).

Maybe its not the same with everyone, and I know you can slap on memory heatspreaders for a minute (pronounced MY-NEWT - and no im not joking here ) cost of the memory itself, its a good trend and we might ultimately see advances in the heatspreader technology as well.

Perkam

[PanaBob]

Hey guys does this use TCCD:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-522&depa=1
Thanks

edit:
bout heatspreaders, I take em off for better cooling
3.4v @ BH-5 w/ active cooling and they are not even warm

[quicksilverXP]

what chips do they use panaBob?

[Rabbi_NZ]

Hey guys does this use TCCD:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-522&depa=1
Thanks

edit:
bout heatspreaders, I take em off for better cooling
3.4v @ BH-5 w/ active cooling and they are not even warm

yes

[WiCKeD]

what chips do they use panaBob?

PB, Corsair might not do as well as some of the others brands with BrainPower PCBs. Read through the last few pages.

Tedy, looking @ PQI's website, there doesn't look like there is any difference between the Black & the Platinum heatspreader ones, other than the heatspreader. Think it's just marketing. I just e-mailed them to be sure.

[Confused]

Well I received my Patriot XBL (2x512) and promptly installed in my Abit AI7 mobo with an Intel 3.0c (SL6WK 12 capper). Be advised that the AI7 does not like TCCD chips!

Credit goes to EVA2000 for painstakingly testing Corsair TCCD chips back in July 04 as viewed here:

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showthread.php?t=27676

The Patriot XBL is using the Brainpower BU6815 pcb (as Wolf has also confirmed). I hoped Eva’s results would be limited to the Corsair TCCD-but not the case on the AI7.

For AI7 users, bios 17 offered no overclocking potential beyond 208 FSB in 2-2-2-5 timings. Coincidently, PQI's performance,at these 2-2-2-5 timings, was the same on the Asus board as viewed here:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=53&pid=2


Flashing to new bios 18, the only looser timings that would run Prime95 stable were 2-3-3-6 at FSB 224. No other overclocked looser timings (beyond the mid 220’s) would post or boot to windows. However, the 2-3-3-6 @224 offered lower performance in Sandra (unbuffered /3186) than 2-2-2-5 @208 (unbuffered/ 3332). Voltage of 2.7 or 2.8 made no difference-voltage does not seem to matter much at all with this memory.

Bios 18 did eliminate the need to play with the NB strap to enable PAT-you can leave CPU at spd and only mess with the GAT settings (f1/sr-e-a-d-d) to enable PAT 800fsb 1:1. (very funky board)

Bottom line -if you are building a new system based on this incredible memory –do not buy an Abit board (I would go with Asus or Epox). For us current AI7 users-Let’s hope that Abit realizes that this memory (or any brand TCCD/Brainpower pcb) will soon be king and Abit will start addressing their bios to accommodate this memory.

My practice of choosing a mobo first and matching it with other components is no longer a sound practice. I will in the future choose the memory first and match it with a mobo that will work best with the memory. But I bet you guys already knew this- I had to find out the hard way.

[enzoR]

its not the mobo.. its the intel chipset. also 875p has the problem. so choose mobo first, and then pair up with the correct ram

[TEDY]

confused change mobo...TCCD should go 2-2-2-5 220

[WiCKeD]

Confused, did you PM Wolf about the PCBs? I never saw him confirm. Although if you have the 815s, that pretty much implies they all have them. Onepagebook's experience with 808 vs 815 could have been just the chips he had. Newer PCBs still might actually be better/the same.

You guys see this post?
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...653#post576653

[Confused]

EnZor-The legit reviews that talks about the brainpower pcbs used a Asus Intel 875 which achieved incredible FSB. So it's not the chipset-it's the Mobo.

Tedy-The same review showed a max 215 at 2-2-2-5 (PQI achieved a 208-same for patriot which I believe both use the 815). Only at the looser timings did the TCCD scream.

Wicked-Wolf confirmed the 815 pcb was used on the Patriot XBL (a couple pages back), mine is also 815.

Really guys -it is the Abit AI7 mobo that does not like TCCD. EVA2000 exhausted this with the 17 bios.

My intent was to confirm no improvement with the new bios and to warn anybody,who is using an AI7, and is considering TCCD memory, not to expect the same results that Legit reviews realized with the Asus P4C-800E. The stuff does beform fast at 2-2-2-5 with a 4% oc-but with the price of this ram going up-if you have an AI7-I don't think it is good price value/performance ratio.

[GenTarkin]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...220-006&depa=0

these arent the XBL series....
Im curious what chips do these use, and also is that Board a JEDEC one?
what have been peoples results with these?
Thanks

[TEDY]

those are most likely mosel chips

[TEDY]

ing OUTPOST has PDP available but price is sky high....

final question for me

GSKILL 2.5-4-4-8 250$ excaliberpc

or

PQI3200-1024DBU 248$ newegg

or does anyone knows place for PDP around 230$ ?

[drunkenmaster]

is there any diff between the pc3200 ocz rev 2 stuff and the pc3700 gold rev 3? same chips? same pcb? likely to be better than the pc3200 stuff, binned chips?

[Rabbi_NZ]

3200 Rev2 is TCCD
3700 Rev3 is Hynix
3700 Platinum EL is TCCD

[freshp]

Are the A-data 4500 to 100% with TCCP Chips?

kind regards

[halcyon]

Any modules with TCCD in 1GB size (NO kits, only 1GB sticks!)?

[Juspriss]

Hi guys, i'm very affraid... which is the best in your opinio of these Rams?
A-Data600 or Ocz pc3200 Plt Rev2? Others?

Regards

[TEDY]

ciao juspriss come va in italia ?

avette perso 1-0 contro noi :P

i say 100% OCZ EL REV2

[Juspriss]

Ehehe!

Your italian is very good! ( il tuo italiano e molto buono )
I don't watch football , i don't like it, i prefer rugby . ( Non seguo molto il calcio, preferisco il rugby :p )

The El Rev2 are betters then 600 , so?

Regards

p.s. Come mai parli italiano? Why do you speak italian?

[TEDY]

Be mio padre viene da Brescia :p / My father comes from Brescia..

Scusami se faro qualce errore gramatico... / Sorry if i make some grammar error

Yep OCZ EL REV2 are better then A-DATA 600.....Where can you get A-DATA ?

Got any online link ?

[WiCKeD]

Received official word from PQI that "the only difference is the color." (platinum vs black).

drunkenmaster, the OCZ 3700 Gold Rev.3 looks like it uses the non BP PCB, from what I've seen. Stick with the 3200 Platinum Rev.2 or something similar.

[freshp]

Does anyone knows a shop with gskill Rams in europe?

[MightyOne]

www.mips-computer.de has the GSkill PC4400 2.5-4-4-8 for 255€ and the PC4800 3-4-4-8 for 295€. I believe they ship to anywhere in the EU, but you might want to ask them for confirmation: info@mips-computer.de