The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

[sjh4]

just built my new rig msi k8n neo2 plat, athlon64 3800+, 2x512mb ocz pc4400 ram, gainward gt6800 gs card, audigy 2zs , samsung spinpoint 120gbx2 raid 0. antec p160 tower, samsung 1x dvd dual layer DVD rewriter

6800gt overclocked to 430/1200

htt 3 , multiplier 10, 260mhz clock ram 1:1 cpu voltage 1.525v ram 2.85v
ram cas 2.5 5:4:4 1t

running stable for past few hours, stressed with 3dmark 2005, sisoft 2005 and gaming eg hl2

using stock cooler on cpu and arctic cooler 5 on graphics system temp 34c

is this best i can go on stock cooler or could i push it further?

any help appreciated

[Garrett]

Well if the temps don't go through the roof you can bump up the voltage and try 2700Mhz or so...

[Orker]

Since my EB doesnt perform well on this mobo i was going to get some ocz 3200 rev2 tccd but that is out of stock nationwide for another couple of weeks!

i can get anything corsair or geil.. i was looking at corsair pc3200 Xtra Low Latency 2-2-2-5

EDIT: after reading through the thread "Memory that works well with MSI Neo2 Plat." and judging by these 2 posts it looks like i might be best to get 2x512 Geil PC3200 Ultra X TCCD

2x512 Geil Ultra X Pc3200 TCCD
285 paint stable @ 2'5-3-3 1T 2'75v

2 x 512mb Corsair 3200xl -- 280 3/4/4/8 1T
2 x 512mb OCZ Pc3200 Rev 2 -- 280 2.5/3/3/7 1T

From this the geil perform almost on par with ocz rev2 but not corsair.. anyone else having much luck with the geil ultra x and this board? does it respond well to more voltage?

[spacey]

hey when you guys are OCing, do you keep cool and quiet on? that was one of the reasons i bought an amd64.

i'm not sure what i'm going to do about the northbridge, it seems if i replace the HSF with the Zalman NB-47J it will interfere with the Zalman heatpipe I have on my video card.

[Byron]

Yeah, CnQ is disabled.

[aonic]

OK guys i know ive asked this before.. but before i RMA Ijust want to know if its my mobo or cpu..
whenever i load anything like linux images to start install or.. the lifegaurd tool by WD my PC freezes.. but i can install/use windows fine.. the same is the issue with many if not all dos based program that pre-load their files
what could be causing this?

[uniacid]

I think it would be the MB, I've had this happen to me on other platforms also (Intel)

[funkflix]

Lol! Now ur bios is "official pimped"..

[Jack]

Since my EB doesnt perform well on this mobo i was going to get some ocz 3200 rev2 tccd but that is out of stock nationwide for another couple of weeks!

i can get anything corsair or geil.. i was looking at corsair pc3200 Xtra Low Latency 2-2-2-5

EDIT: after reading through the thread "Memory that works well with MSI Neo2 Plat." and judging by these 2 posts it looks like i might be best to get 2x512 Geil PC3200 Ultra X TCCD

From this the geil perform almost on par with ocz rev2 but not corsair.. anyone else having much luck with the geil ultra x and this board? does it respond well to more voltage?

Did you ever take a look at Gskill memory?
its rated 2-2-2-5 @ 200MHz and 2.5-3-3-6 @ 275MHz
it has TCCD chips on it, just as OCZ 3200rev2.
some they should perform the same
but with Gskill you have the garanty that is will do 275
And with Geil and Corsair you dont have that garanty

And TCCD doesn't respond well to more voltage...
2,7-2,8V seems to be the sweet spot

[spacey]

hrm, i can't seem to install xp on my setup. i have a neo2 with bios 1.2, using 2 barracudas in raid 0 on sata3/4. and my dvd burner on ide1.

i get BSOD during the installation and random places. any thoughts? maybe a DOS bios flash to something newer?

[|-jokker-|]

i flashed have been flashing the crap out of this thing and with the 1st bio's made dmi info with the 137 beta bio's i get weird option's in my bio's in the multi section..they dont work and im sure it's just a mistake but there kinda wierd,

Where did you get that strange bios ??
Apart of that small thing does that bios performe well ?

[spacey]

hrm, even though i had PQI Turbo 2-2-2-5 timings, apparently those were too tight to install xp.

i went to 3-3-3-6 and changed HTT to 3x and xp is installing without bsod!

[aonic]

MSI support is horrible just thought id let you people know.
I filled out the online tech support form and no replies for 2 weeks
So I call them up when my pc was not booting up when I first got it and they said they think it might be something bios related and they will send me a new bios chip, and its been 1 month and no bios chip... If i hadnt fixed my problem id still be waiting on this chip...

[Minnyboy]

Anyone using a Vapo PE on these Winnies?

I'm about to resurrect my "leaky" Vapo PE with the AMD64 kit & am wondering whether I'll have any issues with it like others have had when using phase-change.

With my 3GHz P4 @ 4.2GHz, I was seeing -12c on the CPU @ idle @ 12c @ full load, according to MBM5.3.7.1...

ChillControl rev2 was reporting that my Evap's temps were -31c @ idle & -18c under load.

Just asking as I wanna keep the Vapo PE on a 3200+ Winnie rather than a 3500+ NC....

Both do the same clocks, just the NC cost me an extra 100 odd bucks (Aussie dollars)...

Cheers,
Minnyboy

[Unrealcpu]

If anyone has trouble getting low temp readings with the K8N NEO2 downlaod the latest MBM5, use the K8N NEO Plat mobo selection, click settings go to temps, click CPU, and choose the first option for Winbond Diode 2

Mines shows -27 which is much better than getting 40C-163C

i downloaded the latest MBM and did what you said however my temps are still going from -33c to 50c and sometime 120-125c in sandra

idoes Mbm actually fix the problem or there isnt a way to tell your temps on this board. I guess just hope for the best lol

[.: Eru :.]

Try bios v141, it should fix the subzero temp issues.

[Th3__W00T_GuY__]

j0 guys! I can do HTT 320 but only with 8 multi wtf? any hints????

btw: it's @ stock cooling

[Sheik]

OK this MSI is doing OK.

[spacey]

wow 315 mhz! i have pqi turbo as well, i can't get past 250 mhz

what bios are you running and how much voltage to the ram? i'm using 1.41, i just flashed from 1.2 straight to that one.

i only have a 3200+ winchester though. i wouldn't mind hitting 275 mhz or something.

[Jack]

OK this MSI is doing OK.

Jesus, fantastic work
315mhz dual channel

tell us more
settings? bios? A64Tweaker? voltage?

[Sheik]

Unfortunately it just gets through SuperPI. I almost made it throught Aquamark. Does run all benchamarks at 286x11 @ 3-3-3 which gives me best results. Aquamark is sitting at 89462 but server seems to be down at moment.

LDT = 3
BIOS 1.41
VCore 1.55 + 8.3 %
Memory = 2.75 Volts

I had problems running CAS 2.5 @ 200 MHz even . Changing to CAS3 solved that. This board and this memory absolutely rocks !!!

[spacey]

what is LDT?

i'm going to have to try different timings and keep playing around... though 250 MHz is decent.

[mad mikee]

Just measured VDimm and saw .025 undervolting

On the other hand, I'm only running my TCCD and 2.55V @ 260x10 (at least in memtest/goldmemory) Might have some headroom.

Just beginning to aquaint the 3500 / gskill w/ prime, should be 'interesting'

[Blue078]

Unfortunately it just gets through SuperPI. I almost made it throught Aquamark. Does run all benchamarks at 286x11 @ 3-3-3 which gives me best results. Aquamark is sitting at 89462 but server seems to be down at moment.

LDT = 3
BIOS 1.41
VCore 1.55 + 8.3 %
Memory = 2.75 Volts

I had problems running CAS 2.5 @ 200 MHz even . Changing to CAS3 solved that. This board and this memory absolutely rocks !!!

Fantastic clocks on that vcore What kinda temps is the MachII showing on the LCD under load ??

[Sheik]

Well ambient temps were really high yesterday as in around 26'C so the idle temps on display were about - 39'C and the "highest" was - 24'C (always a good sign that the evap is making good contact ). This FX55 really does heat up the old Prommy a bit.

Next I want to go back to an older BIOS to give me the +18% option as I can boot at 3.2 GHz but cannot get through SuperPI. I just wish it was winter again now

BTW I've had no issues with Mach2 / MSI K8N Neo2 at all. Not using updated firmware or anything. I do have temp problems. I heard the newest version of MBM was supposed to work here, but it just reads 40'C the whole time.