Util to edit the 6800 bios's?

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by Sir Random
Ok, but what about setting the 3D speeds?

New version should fix the 3D Speeds for 6800Us.
But my webspace now exceeded traffic it seems (dang thats only a 200kb download, how many people got there lol), so you have to wait a bit i hope mavke answers me soon.

[Sir Random]

If you need webspace, I'll host it for you.
Just email it to me at random@eircom.net

[xtremetheme]

Thx thats very nice. I sended the file now to sir random.
In Version 1.1 6800U should have correct speed setting, all 6800 card should have 2D speed shown, (although i dont know if all cards use them), and i renamed the 2D/3D to Throttle, as it did confuse ppl

[Sir Random]

Here it is:
OmniExtremeEdit FX1.1.rar

Thanks again extremetheme, gonna try it out now

[thompson5439]

Thanks alot, you are a GOD.
I have a BFG6800U water block version with default clock speed of 470 and could not get it to run on my Asus A8V MB. I even RMA'd the card to BFG and new one would only run 3D at 440.
It is not a power supply problem, I bought a $200 PC Power and Cooling 510W power supply. I have enclosed the orginal BFG bios.

[Mavke]

And here is a mirror :
OmniExtremeEdit FX v1.1 - At mvktech.net

Regards,
Mavke

[Cybercat]

I used the editor to increase the voltage to 1.5 on my 6800. Oddly enough, it didn't improve overclocks any. Temperatures remain in the 60s most of the time. Frustrating, I can get 380 on the core, but I can't even get 750 on my memory completely artifact-free. A lot of people are getting 800.

EDIT: Nevermind, it does get into the 70s.

[Mavke]

Originally posted by xtremetheme
Thx thats very nice. I sended the file now to sir random.
In Version 1.1 6800U should have correct speed setting, all 6800 card should have 2D speed shown, (although i dont know if all cards use them), and i renamed the 2D/3D to Throttle, as it did confuse ppl

I get a lot of people saying that on their Original 6800 GT the Tool is reporting 1.4V on 3D GPU. While they are expecting 1.3V...

Can this be looked into?

[detonator]

Finaly I can post3 days to activate my account...
Ok I edited a bios from a fresh XFX 6800ULTRA 425/1200@450/1200 V1.5 3D
to test it,but I got ramdom frezzes...on 3DMarck 2003...
So I flashed back to Noxis's bios 450/1200 and everything work great again....
Ok now Coolbit show the right frequenzy, but I think the voltage dident take any effect ,stilll 1.4on my guess ,that why I got frezz.

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by Mavke
I get a lot of people saying that on their Original 6800 GT the Tool is reporting 1.4V on 3D GPU. While they are expecting 1.3V...

Can this be looked into?

Thx for reporting ppl.
The thing with the 6800GT is strange.
The Editor shows what the BIOS says and on every 6800GT BIOS i have seen it says 3 modes with default values 1.4V , 1.3V and 1.1V.
First of all why do people expect 1.3V to be the standard of 6800GT?

Can someone with a unmodded BIOS and a GT measure what V it gets when running 3D ?
Can 6800GT people overclock higher if the change the 3D Vs ?
Can they overclock higher if they only change the Thrtl Vs?

A guess could be that the 6800GT only uses 2 modes, the 2D and the mode labled as "Thrtl." in my editor is their 3D mode, which is at 1.3V

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by detonator
Finaly I can post3 days to activate my account...
Ok I edited a bios from a fresh XFX 6800ULTRA 425/1200@450/1200 V1.5 3D
to test it,but I got ramdom frezzes...on 3DMarck 2003...
So I flashed back to Noxis's bios 450/1200 and everything work great again....
Ok now Coolbit show the right frequenzy, but I think the voltage dident take any effect ,stilll 1.4on my guess ,that why I got frezz.

Hmm thats strange can you send me your bios?

[Charles Wirth]

Trying this now on a new PNY 6800U

I will upload the rom file too.

[Mavke]

Originally posted by FUGGER
Trying this now on a new PNY 6800U

I will upload the rom file too.

Send it to me as well (mavke@mvktech.net) or upload it to www.mvktech.net :-)

[warhorse]

hi, dudes,
i have a xfx6800gt, and when i run the program its says the same things, 1.1v for 2d, 1.3v for thrtl and 1.4v for 3d, I changed mine to 1.4v for thrtl and 1.5v on 3d, i kept 1.1v for 2d, everything worked fine and i ganes 25mhz extra and now after running aquamark and 3dmark2003 then doing a detect optimum frequencys in coolbits im gettin 429 core and 1.19 mem, befor i only got 401 and 1.12, so after this i tried changing the thrtl to 1.5v aswell and as soon as i started a game it crashed, therefor i agree with xtremetheme i think thrtl is the 3d mode.

also can sometell me why in the verson 1.1 of the program its tells me that my 3d core and mem speeds were 350 and 500 (i changed these to 400 and 1.15) but the bottom one called 2d says only 300 and 300, but when i used coolbits it told me my 2d and 3d speeds were the same, is this 300 and 300 the speed it starts up at while booting into windows.

And by the way this program rocks,

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by warhorse
hi, dudes,
i have a xfx6800gt, and when i run the program its says the same things, 1.1v for 2d, 1.3v for thrtl and 1.4v for 3d, I changed mine to 1.4v for thrtl and 1.5v on 3d, i kept 1.1v for 2d, everything worked fine and i ganes 25mhz extra and now after running aquamark and 3dmark2003 then doing a detect optimum frequencys in coolbits im gettin 429 core and 1.19 mem, befor i only got 401 and 1.12, so after this i tried changing the thrtl to 1.5v aswell and as soon as i started a game it crashed, therefor i agree with xtremetheme i think thrtl is the 3d mode.

also can sometell me why in the verson 1.1 of the program its tells me that my 3d core and mem speeds were 350 and 500 (i changed these to 400 and 1.15) but the bottom one called 2d says only 300 and 300, but when i used coolbits it told me my 2d and 3d speeds were the same, is this 300 and 300 the speed it starts up at while booting into windows.

And by the way this program rocks,

Hi, thx your reply is very valuable.

So your 3D and 2D Speed is always the same in coolbits? If i look at my 6800GT BIOSes i see that everyone has these 300/300 as 2D mode, so it seems 6800GTs dont use a 2D mode but always 3D instead.
Will be fixed in next version.

About the voltages i dont understand:
You changed them to 1.5V 3D, 1.4V Thtr and 1.1V 2D, and you could oc more.

Then you made 1.5V 3D, 1.5V Thrtl and 1.1V 2D and game crashed. So you think that 1.5V is to much and caused the crash?
What happens when you do 1.3V 3D, 1.4V thrtl, 1.1V 2D, can you oc the same?

[detonator]

ok this is a XFX 6800 Ultra Bios.standar:
425/1200

[warhorse]

hi again,
right i did the test you asked mate,

on 1.1v 3d, 1.4v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, same overclock as 1.5v 3d, 1.4v thrtl and 1.1v 2d.
on 1.3v 3d, 1.4v thrtl. and 1.1v 2d, same overclock again.
on 1.4v 3d, 1.4v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, same overclock again.

only when i push the thrtl up to 1.5v does it crash, so i do think having 1.5v on the thrtl is to much for the card.

on the above settings using auto detect in coolbits i always managed an average optimun frequency of 428 core, and 1.19 mem.

when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.

therefor i think the thrtl is the 3d setting, (but dont take my word for it, i know about bios's).
It just seems the 3d setting does nothing at all.

i hope all this helps you.

[Sir Random]

Could you try 1.3v throttle? That would help confirm your theory (if clocks are lower).

[warhorse]

i did try a 1.3v thrtl.

when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by detonator
ok this is a XFX 6800 Ultra Bios.standar:
425/1200

Thx, can you test if this one works?
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme/xfxultra2.zip

@warhorse
Very good, that will make life better for 6800GT users

[Sir Random]

Originally posted by warhorse
i did try a 1.3v thrtl.

when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.

So default GT BIOS is 1.3v "thrtl", and raising that to 1.4v gives higher clocks?

It looks like you're right about the "thrtl" actually being the 3D setting, but my Ultra shows 1.3v "thrtl" too, and it's supposed to be 1.4v 3D?

[warhorse]

thats mighty weird.

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by Sir Random
So default GT BIOS is 1.3v "thrtl", and raising that to 1.4v gives higher clocks?

It looks like you're right about the "thrtl" actually being the 3D setting, but my Ultra shows 1.3v "thrtl" too, and it's supposed to be 1.4v 3D?

Your Ultra is shown correct, 1.4V 3D and 1.3V Thrtl. Its just a thing of 6800GTs, new version will show them correct.
(And 6800NUs? Anybody got an 6800NU?)

[detonator]

bios work great now,I cna bench at 450/1300 full air.wath was the problem?

[xtremetheme]

Originally posted by detonator
bios work great now,I cna bench at 450/1300 full air.wath was the problem?

I have no idea, maybe the BIOS you modded before was not clean or you didnt made the 2D value the same as the 3D, like Noxis had in his BIOS. Maybe your card needs that for some reason.

I used the xfxultra.rom you gave me, opend in my editor and changed 3D V to 1.5V and the 2D & 3D values to 450/1200.