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    Yeap would be nice to have CodeRed back on here
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    Hi all

    Great tweaker code red! Its been a life saver for me as I cant set 1T ram timing in the bios on my K8N neo 2

    Was just trying your 0.5 beta and the Link Frequancy ( HTT Multi) seems to work fine on my neo 2 both cbid and sisoft sandra detect the front side bus changes.

    In your last post you mentioned htt options not working so is it changing or not is what im wondering?

    Regards and hope you continue making this great app.

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    Hi tictac.


    1.)
    This:
    http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56354

    also may interests you.

    BNOBTC v6 with totally new version of:
    AMIBCP
    ModBin6 (2.01.01 (06/25) 2003)
    CBROM (CBROM32 1.33, 1.41, 1.44)
    Flash utilities etc.

    will be released soon.

    http://bnobtc.pix-art.com


    2.)
    Code:
    header: 55 AA  ; Boot Able rom
    jmp init ; jump to code intialization
    retf ; return far to system bios file
    
    INIT
    pushad  
    push eax
    push edx
    mov eax,0x80002184; eax=Bus0Dev2Func1,Offset 84,85,86,87
    mov dx,0cf8 ; set dx as adress port
    out dx,eax ; send the address to IO Space throgh dx port
    mov dx,0cfc ; set dx as data port
    in eax,dx ;Receive the data into eax for the address we sent through dx port
    and eax,XXXXXX ; Change the data
    or eax,XXXXXX ; Change the data
    out eax,dx ; Send back the modded data through dx port
    pop edx,
    pop eax
    popad
    ret ; return to header
    
    last bit; use 8 bit checksum


    The assembler code looks really interesting and this idea is similar to the ROMOS project.
    http://hosting.modflex.com/rayer/romos/romose.htm

    ROMOS booting in Bochs PC Emulator


    ROMOS booting in VMware
    (Weird chars appeared while booting ROMOS in VMware,
    but there was no reason for this.
    New releases of VMware may do not have this bug anymore.)

    (PNG conversion and highest possible lossless PNG optimization & file size reduction by:
    Borg Number One - borg_no [dot] one -at- gmx [dot] net
    Thanks go to GIMP, PNGCRUSH and PNGOUT)

    Well, I just would like to know what values have I to replace with xxxxxx?
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    where is the link to the lastest a64 tweaker? is it the 0.31 ver on page 1?

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    Bump!

    I'd like to know the same thing. Where can I download 0.6 beta, the one I see everyone else using?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I guess a bit of thread searching does the trick. Here's the post with all the download links for all you other lazy people: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...532#post711532
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    thought this was a new 0.6 beta but apparently not :P
    anyway just thought that i'd mention that 0.6b and 0.51xt both had the same bug on my machine

    if i save the current settings and load them again they arent the same :/
    max bypass is changed to 0x and tref is changed to 100mhz 15.6µs

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    similar probs,here:
    cant load the saved setings of A64 Tweaker,doesnt matter wich vers. i use.

    tested on dfi nf3 sk754,GA-k8ns sk939,EP-9nda3J sk939.
    All*AIr

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    Borg Number One... have you seen with pinczakko source code..

    he hack down realtek NIC rom

    Code:
    ;-------------------------------------------------------------------;
    ;The base code created in 2:34 am May 4th  2003
    ;Successfully patched in 9:35 am July 28th  2003
    ;by Darmawan MS a.k.a Pinczakko.
    ;
    ;This is my first operating system prototype :). One thing still
    ;obscured, the BEV mechanism mentioned in Plug & Play BIOS spec 1.0A
    ;don't explain about how the code executed :(. But based on my
    ;experiment it seems to be executed from ROM. So everything we do
    ;prior to loading the OS code from the expansion ROM into the RAM
    ;can't do anything dealing with memory write operation. I think
    ;BEV works as follows :
    ;1. During POST, the main bios recognize the LAN card as boot device.
    ;2. If we set up the main bios to boot from LAN as default, after POST succeded,
    ;   int 19h (bootstrap) will point into the PnP option rom BEV of the LAN
    ;   and passes execution into the code there, so we're executing code
    ;   in the ROM pointed to by the BEV. Unless we're loading part of this
    ;   code into RAM and execute from there, there's no writeable area in our code
    ;
    ;While the PCI function of the LAN card function as ordinary PCI card does
    ;so, the PCI init function has no direct connection with the BEV related stuff.
    ;
    ;	<--------- HACK IT DOWN D00D ----------->
    ;
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------------;
    [BITS 16] 	;Real mode by default (prefix 66 or 67 to 32 bits instructions)
    
    [ORG 0x00]
    ;-------------------------------------------;
    ; 	Option rom header
    ;-------------------------------------------;
    	db	0x55		;;Rom signature byte 1
    	db	0xAA		;;Rom signature byte 2
    ROMsize	db	ROM_Size	;;1024 bytes
    	jmp	INIT		;;jump to initialization
    
    	Times 	0x18-($-$$) db 0	;;zero fill in between
    	dw	PCI_DATA_STRUC	;;Pointer to PCI HDR structure (at 18h)
    
    	Times 	0x1A-($-$$) db 0	;;zero fill in between
    	dw	PnP_Header	;;PnP Expansion Header Pointer (at 1Ah)
    
    ;----------------------------
    ; PCI data structure
    ;----------------------------
    PCI_DATA_STRUC:
    	db	'PCIR'		;PCI Header Sign
    	dw	0x9004		;Vendor ID
    	dw	0x8178		;Device ID
    	dw	0x00		;VPD
    	dw	0x18		;PCI data struc length (byte)
    	db	0x00		;PCI Data struct Rev
    	db	0x02		;Base class code, 02h == Network Controller
    	db	0x00		;Sub class code = 00h and interface = 00h -->Ethernet Controller
    	db	0x00		;Interface code, see PCI Rev2.2 Spec Appendix D
    	dw	ROM_Size	;Image length in mul of 512 byte, little endian format
    	dw	0x00		;rev level
    	db	0x00		;Code type = x86
    	db	0x80		;last image indicator
    	dw	0x00		;reserved
    
    ;-----------------------------
    ; PnP ROM Bios Header
    ;-----------------------------
    PnP_Header:
    	db	'$PnP'			;PnP Rom header sign
    	db	0x01			;Structure Revision
    	db	0x02			;Header structure Length in mul of 16 bytes
    	dw	0x00			;Offset to next header (00 if none)
    	db	0x00			;reserved
    	db	0x7A			;8 Bit checksum (for this header, -->
    					; --> check again after compile and repair if needed)
    	dd	0x00			;PnP Device ID --> 0h in Realtek RPL ROM
    	dw	Manufacturer_str	;pointer to manufacturer string
    	dw	Product_str		;pointer to product string
    	db	0x02,0x00,0x00		;Device Type code 3 byte
    	db	0x14			;Device Indicator, 14h from RPL ROM-->See Page 18 of
    					;PnP BIOS spec., Lo nibble (4) means IPL device
    
    	dw	0x00			;Boot Connection Vector, 00h = disabled
    	dw	0x00			;Disconnect Vector, 00h = disabled
    	dw	Start_OS 		;Bootstrap Entry Vector (BEV)
    	dw	0x00			;reserved
    	dw	0x00			;Static resource Information vector (0000h if unused)
    
    ;----------------------------------------------------------
    ; Identifier strings
    ;----------------------------------------------------------
    Manufacturer_str  db	'Pinczakko Corporation',00h
    
    Product_str	db	'Realtek Hacked ROM',00h
    
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;PCI Option ROM initialization Code (init function)
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------------
    INIT:
    
    	lea 	si,[msg]		;fetch the string addr
    	call	dis_string	;display the message
    
    	mov	bx,ROMsize	;clean up memory used (set image size to 0)
    	xor	ax,ax		;produce 0000h
    	mov 	[bx],ax		;3rd byte of this bios image file (image size)
    
    	or	ax,0x20		;inform system BIOS that an IPL device attached
    				;see PnP spec 1.0A p21 for info's
    
    	retf			;return far to system BIOS
    
    msg	db	10,13,'PCI expansion rom initialization called...','$'
    
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------
    ; 	-- Procedure to display string to stdout --
    ;Procedure definition:displaying character done through
    ;int 10h,service 0Eh
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------
    dis_string:
    		cld
    .more_dis:				;display OS message
    		lodsb
    		cmp 	al,'$'
    		je	.no_more_dis
    		mov	ah,0xE
    		mov	bx,0x7
    		int	10h
    		jmp 	.more_dis
    .no_more_dis:
    		retn
    
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------------
    ; Operating system entry point/BEV implementation (BootStrap)
    ;--------------------------------------------------------------------
    Start_OS:
    
    	mov	ax,cs
    	mov	es,ax		;make all segment reg to -->
    	mov	ds,ax		;point to the right segment
    
    	lea 	si,[msg_PnP]	;fetch the string addr
    	call	dis_string	;display the message
    
    	mov	ah, 0x00
    	int	0x16		;wait for key to be hit
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;--- Load The Operating System Code beginning at OS_Load_Seg :OS_Load_Offset h ----
    ;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    	cli			;disable interrupt during loading
    
    	mov	ax,OS_Load_Seg		;point to OS segment
    	mov	es,ax
    	mov	ax,OS_Load_Offset	;point to OS offset
    	mov	di,ax
    
    	lea	si,[OS_Code]	;equal to lea si,OS_Code in masm
    	cld
    
    	xor	ecx,ecx
    	mov	ecx,OS_Code_Size16
    
    load_os:
    	lodsw
    	stosw
    	loop	load_os
    
    ;-------- Loading completed -------------------------------------
    
    	mov	ax,cs		;restore es segment register
    	mov	es,ax
    	xor	di,di
    
    	jmp	OS_Load_Seg:OS_Load_Offset
    
    msg_PnP	db	10,13,'PnP BEV Routine Invoked!',10,13,'$'
    
    ;------------------- WARNING !!! ----------------------------------;
    ;-- The linear address here must match the second file (OS code) --;
    OS_Load_Seg 		equ	0x7C0
    OS_Load_Offset 		equ	0x0000
    
    ROM_Size		equ	0x04	;ROM size in multiple of 512 bytes
    OS_Code_Size		equ	((ROM_Size - 1)*512)
    OS_Code_Size16		equ	( OS_Code_Size / 2 )
    
    
    	Times	(ROM_Size*512 - OS_Code_Size) - ($-$$) db 0	;extend to 512 bytes, zero fill in between
    OS_Code:

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    Patching A64 Memory Timing through bios level

    get the source code here:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=384

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    Hi tictac.

    1.)
    How to build a BIOS module which is able to run this code:

    http://www.farb-rausch.com/
    -->
    http://www.farb-rausch.com/fr026.zip

    Code:
    ; fr-026: 34b mul+cycle (uc 6.22 size optimizing compo entry)
    ; 1st place
    ; code: ryg (original concept) & kb (additional opcode crunching)
    ;
    ; rules were to write a "colorcycling" (no real colorcycling was
    ; required, only colorcycling-like animation) effect that display
    ; a x * y-ish pattern somewhere on the screen. the palette was
    ; required to look like the original version.
    
      org  256
    
      mov  al, 13h			; ...load al with 13h (mode number)
      int  10h				; set mode 13h
    
      mov  bp, 320			; screen is 320 pixels wide
      
    x les  ax, [bx]			; es = end of mem (9fffh), ax = 20cdh
      cwd					; => dx = 0 (for idiv)
      mov  ax, di			; get dest address
      idiv bp				; div by width => ax=y coord, dx=x coord
      imul dx				; mul x by y
      stosb					; store color in vram
      mov  dx, 3c9h			; dac data
      bt   cx, 6			; bit 6 of cx => carry flag
      salc					; set al from carry flag
      xor  ax, cx			; => all this is functionally equivalent to something like
      						; "test al, 64" / "jz skip" / "not al" / "skip: blah"
                            ; which should be somewhat easier understandable, but bigger.
      out  dx, al			; write grayscale pixel values
      out  dx, al
      out  dx, al
      loop x				; pixel loop.
      loop x				; skip cx = 0 to get the cycling effect!
      
    ; that's all there is to it.
    ; this is the 7th (or 8th) version; the first try was
    ; 49 bytes, from then on we successively made it smaller.

    Well, I tried this...:
    ASM:
    Code:
    		push	bp
    		stosb				; Store al to es:[di]
    		mov	al,13h
    		int	10h			; Video display   ah=functn 00h
    						;  set display mode in al
    		mov	bp,140h
    loc_x:
    		les	ax,dword ptr [bx]	; Load seg:offset ptr
    		cwd				; Word to double word
    		mov	ax,di			;  Fixup - byte match
    ;*		db	 89h,0F8h		;  Fixup - byte match
    		idiv	bp			; ax,dx rem=dx:ax/reg
    		imul	dx			; dx:ax = reg * ax
    		stosb				; Store al to es:[di]
    		mov	dx,3C9h
    		bt	cx, 6			; bit 6 of cx => carry flag
    		salc					; set al from carry flag
    		xor	ax, cx			; => all this is functionally equivalent to something like
      						; "test al, 64" / "jz skip" / "not al" / "skip: blah"
    						; which should be somewhat easier understandable, but bigger.
    		out	dx, al			; write grayscale pixel values
    		out	dx, al
    		out	dx, al
    		loop	loc_x			; pixel loop.
    		loop	loc_x			; skip cx = 0 to get the cycling effect!
    HEX:
    55AAB013CD10BD4001C4079989F8F7FDF7EAAABAC9030FBAE1 06D631C8EEEEEEE2E7E2E5

    ...and I used Bochs' feature to load Option/ISA ROMs.
    But while booting Bochs with the compiled Option/ISA ROM,
    there will be no switch to videomode 13h.
    Bochs is still in text mode, but I can see sliding the colors of the background and the cursor.

    2.)
    Furthermore, how to insert a feature to break the animation
    with any key
    or
    after a certain time?


    3.)
    How is it possible that "new" or nearly each todays BIOS's are able to display logos
    in SVGA modes (640*480*256; 800*600*256; 1024*768*256; ...).
    Do they already use VESA / VBE ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeRed
    Gents,
    :a64tweaker_V031.zip * linked fixed now *

    heres another dl link for those who have problems downloading the app: v0.50 XT beta or v0.31 final

    v0.60 Beta is up!

    _

    my antivir with latest definitions tells me that 0.31 (both files from that link) are infected with some trojan !!
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    wrote support email to the antivir people...this is something which REALLY annoys me since i cannot prevent the "found trojan" pop-up from coming up.
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    i deactivated the avguard

    what do you think is more important? eh

    thx @ codered amd supaguru
    . . . WHO put this thing together? ME !

    . . . WHO do i trust? ME !

    . . . f*** it, as****

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    Exclamation

    I checked V0.31. V0.50 and V0.60 Beta - AntiVir says all these Versions are infected by the Trojan Horse TR/Drop.VB.fk.2.1
    But i guess the Detection is wrong, i've send the files to AntiVir. Addionally i found out when packing A64Tweaker with UPX and strip the Overlaycontent (Contains Debug-Infos, Paths and stuff), AntiVir doesnt alarm anymore.
    If you want to continue using A64Tweaker with AntiVir, use this version -> http://rawhi.de/download/A64Tweaker_...ERLAYSTRIP.exe
    Due the strpping and compressing its also only 176Kb (Original 516Kb).
    Last edited by Lynxx; 07-12-2005 at 12:05 AM.
    bye, Lynxx

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    Hi, can anyone assist me in finding which offset and bits to modify for the following options ?

    Disable 32 Byte Granularity (A64Tweaker says its enabled, freezes when disabled)

    Enable DRAM Bank Interleave (how do I check whether it's enabled or not ?)

    I'd like to experiment with these options a little cause my board doesnt have them in BIOS and they'll probably won't add them in newer releases, so I'd like to patch them through bios level as per tic tac's A64 Bios Tweaker...

    Any input will be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReelMonza
    Hi, can anyone assist me in finding which offset and bits to modify for the following options ?

    Disable 32 Byte Granularity (A64Tweaker says its enabled, freezes when disabled)

    Enable DRAM Bank Interleave (how do I check whether it's enabled or not ?)

    *
    *
    *
    32 Byte Granularity :

    BUS - 0
    DEVICE - 24
    FUNCTION - 2
    OFFSET - 90 (hex)
    bit 19 ( 0 - disabled , 1 - enabled)

    It works in combination with bit 16 (64 or 128 bit interface to DRAM), taken from AMD documentation:


    Code:
    Bit 19 Bit 16
    0       0       8-beat bursts (64 bytes)
    ------------------------------------
    0       1       4-beat bursts (64 bytes)
    ------------------------------------
    1       0       4-beat bursts (32 bytes)
    ------------------------------------
    1       1       4-beat bursts (64 bytes)
                     2-beat bursts (32 bytes) for Revision E and
                     later revisions if Burst2Opt = 1,
                     UnBuffDimm = 1, and En2T = 0
    ------------------------------------

    Bit 16:

    128-Bit/64-Bit (128/64)—Bit 16. Indicates a 128-bit interface to DRAM.
    0 = 64-bit interface to DRAM
    1 = 128-bit interface to DRAM



    Regarding DRAM Bank Interleave, it is not that easy, I will try to find out more.

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    I've played with DRAM interleave option in BIOS (DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-D, 623-3 BIOS) and here is what I got. Just to mention, I have 2 sticks of PQI Turbo (2 x 512MB) in orange slots.

    BUS 0, DEVICE 24, FUNCTION 2

    32bit mode

    Offset 4C

    Eanbled
    00001001 (hex)
    Disabled
    02000001 (hex)

    Differences (enabled -> disabled):

    Bit 12 (1 -> 0)
    Bit 25 (0 -> 1)

    Offset 68

    Enabled
    03E0EE00 (hex)
    Disabled
    01E0FE00 (hex)

    Differences (enebled -> disabled)

    Bit 12 (0 -> 1)
    Bit 25 (1 -> 0)

    Offset 6C

    Enabled
    03E0EE00 (hex)
    Disabled
    01E0FE00 (hex)

    Differences (enebled -> disabled)

    Bit 12 (0 -> 1)
    Bit 25 (1 -> 0)

    For more information see this (page 84):

    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/26094.PDF

    Looks like it is not that esasy to figure out. It would be interesting to see what happens with different configurations (1x512MB, 2x256MB, 1x256MB, different slots ....)

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    Hi, I enjoy using your a64 tweaker! I do have some questions:

    1. how do you make windows load with startup settings? It doesnt work.
    2. why does it sometimes default to loosest timing values? bug?
    3. how do I change async latency in the bios of my gigabyte s939?
    I am getting tired of manually changing it to 7 everytime windows loads cause the default of 6 isnt stable
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    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551

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    is there a guide for this a64 tweaker?
    i'm kinda noob and don't know how to set it up for best performance...
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    Talking A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta vs Memtest86+ v1.6 BIOS... LET THE CONTROVERSY BEGIN!

    "PLEASE HELP US MR. RED!"



    Quote Originally Posted by CodeRed

    Code:
    Gents,
    
    I've just found a way to really boost your A64 performance using WPCREDIT.
    
    The A64 mem controller registers can be accessed using WPCREDIT using Bus #0, Device #24, Function #2. There are 4 main registers that I have been playing with:
    
    0x88 DRAM Timing Low
    0x8C DRAM Timing High
    0x90 DRAM Configuration Low
    0x94 DRAM Configuration High
    
    The timings registers set all the DRAM timings params (as you'd expect), but there are many more than most BIOSes will show you. The best performance is obtained using:
    
    Column Address Strobe # (CAS) = 2.0
    Row Cycle Time (Trc) = 8 
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (Trfc) = 12
    RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) = 2
    Row to Row delay (Trrd) = 2
    Min RAS Active Time (Tras) = 5
    Row Precharge Time (Trp) = 2
    Write Recovery Time (Twr) = 2
    Write to Read Delay (Twtr) = 1
    Read to Write Delay (Trtw) = 1
    
    I normally write this as 2-8-12-2-2-5-2-2-1-1 for convenience ... not that rememering all those values is easy.
    
    To set the mem timings to the above values change the registers as follows:
    reg 0x88 to 0x02522311
    reg 0x8C to 0x00000B00
    (use 32 bit mode in WPCREDIT)
    
    I have only begun to experiment with the Config registers but some of the things I have tried are setting the Asynchronous Latency Value (controlled by reg 0x94). Normally my BIOS sets this to 7ns, but when I dropped it to 4ns there was a healthy boost to my memory performance. To do this set bits 0-3 of reg 0x94 to 0100 (binary) (4 for those who cant read binary).
    
    Just to make things more interesting, bits 22-20 of reg 0x94 control the DRAM speed (200, 166, 133, 100 Mhz). There are several reserved values, and I decided to try 110. Surprisingly this gave me a mem speed somewhere inbetween 200 and 166 MHz. This may be a 183 Mhz mem option  I need to test some more to confirm these results.
    
    Oh, 2T is also easy to disable :D
    
    We no longer have to worry about BIOS updates, its all there in the DRAM registers. Over time I may write a simple windows app to set all this up in a user friendly fashion ... just need to find the time.
    
    Only thing I cant do is set the bank interleave. Doing so would reorder the physical memory locations ... not something I think windoze would be happy with :p: 
    
    Try it and compare your before and after benchies with something like pifast or superpi and you'll see the boost.
    
    ============================================
    
    V0.31 of A64 tweaker is now ready (win 64 bit compatible now)
    jump to this post
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...345#post505345 
    
    or just download :a64tweaker_V031.zip * linked fixed now *
    heres another dl link for those who have problems downloading the app: v0.50 XT beta or v0.31 final
    v0.60 Beta is up!
    Code, I love this program you’ve created and I use it all the time, but there are many of us who are having a major issue concerning its accuracy versus the Memtest86+ v1.6 program. I came over here from the DFI-Street forum because we are fresh out of answers there. A specific debate is brewing as to which program, A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta or Memtest86+ v1.6 (located in the BIOS of the DFI LANPARTY nF4 MoBos), is reading the tREF (click on the green tREF please) properly. Here are both the tREF Table and the tREFDiscrepancyTable. I created them both and have posted them over at DFI-Street. A link to my tREF Table thread will be included in the tables themselves:





    As you can clearly see on the tREF "Discrepancy" Table, the only two places where A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta and Memtest86+ v1.6 agree, are in the highlighted blue sections. Now you can see why this is an issue. Not only because my tREF Table is based on your program, but because ALL the other simple tREF Tables, everywhere on the internet, are based upon your A64 Tweaker program. I cannot state, explicitly, that either program is wrong; I simply do not know the answer to this problem . There is, however, a British guy over at DFI-Street who keeps challenging the validity of my thread's claim because he professes to "know" that your program is wrong! He sites his belief that A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta is invalid based solely upon the only “proof” he provides, which is that programs like RightMark Memory Analyzer, Central Brain Identifier and of course, Memtest86+ v1.6 all agree with each other, but disagree with your A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta. I am not so quick to jump to this conclusion the way he is, however, because it is obvious to me that since all those "other" programs corroborate Memtest86+ v1.6, they are plainly reading the tREF data in the same manner. Given that A64 Tweaker v0.60 Beta is reading the tREF data differently than Memtest86+ v1.6, it obviously won't correspond with those other application's readings. Can you please help us by telling us which one is accurate and which one is in error and why, or if neither one is wrong, why there is this discrepancy? Thank you very much CodeRed .

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    GARM,
    You know what? I have Asrock Satta II and just checked Everest and it shows 7.8 us for my Tref but all versions of A64 shows 3.9. I never noticed this until you brought this up. So therefore it is not just DFI mobo. And If Everest agrees w/ Memtest86, then I am guessing there is something wrong here (w/ A64 tweaker, hope not thu.)
    I wish this issue is looked into by CodeRed or someone knowledgable w/ Tweaker's program and solve this problem.

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    Question Does anyone have an answer to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by RimRam

    GARM,
    You know what? I have Asrock Satta II and just checked Everest and it shows 7.8 us for my Tref but all versions of A64 shows 3.9. I never noticed this until you brought this up. So therefore it is not just DFI mobo. And If Everest agrees w/ Memtest86, then I am guessing there is something wrong here (w/ A64 tweaker, hope not thu.)
    I wish this issue is looked into by CodeRed or someone knowledgable w/ Tweaker's program and solve this problem.
    Yes, I agree and I do believe that this is a real issue, but just so that everyone is crystal clear on this point, I did not bring this to your attention to be mean or a jerk-off critic. I did this to try and genuinely resolve the issue. Regardless of what is or isn't correct, or whatever the case may be, I think that A64 Tweaker is fantastic, as are programs like CBI and RMMA. I just hope that CodeRed looks into this for all of us. I also think that CodeRed is a great programmer too . Just so you know RimRam, to my knowledge, EVEREST only shows a refresh as is preprogrammed on your DIMM as it is reserved in the RAM's SPD. It is Memtest86+, Central Brain Identifier and RightMark Memory Analyzer that conflict directly with A64 Tweaker. EVEREST, like PC Wizard 2005, only displays the Serial Presence Detect, EEPROM that is right on your memory stick. The tREF I am concerned with is the one that can be adjusted in your BIOS on your MotherBoard. I also would like to point out that I know for fact that A64 Tweaker is 100% correct on all the other data it displays. The tREF is my only concern here.

    I am now officially extending a request to ANYONE who may know the answer to this problem, or perhaps has a different spin on it, to let us know by posting a response in this thread. Until further notice and until this matter is cleared up satisfactorily, I shall display two versions of my tREF TABLE. One shall be based on Code's A64 Tweaker and the other on Memtest86+. I shall also include the tREF discrepancy Table between the other two and my TUTORIAL Table shall be exhibited at the bottom. Once this issue has reached an acceptable resolution, I shall remove the Table that displays incorrect data, should that be the case. Hopefully, there is someone out there who can assist all of us with this. Thank you! Peace ...









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