Best Crt Monitor Avaible !!!???

[X-WoLv-X]

Hello fellas...

I am thinking of buying a new MONITOR, a CRT one.

I have a ty syncmaster overhere, (17').

So, I want a 17' or 19', that handle my 9800 XT.

In other words, something that andle with 1920x**** at a HICH refresh rate...

something like 1600x1200 @ 150 HZ !

Any tips ?

Thanks guys !

WoLv

[Dud3!]

I'm under the impression that Iiyama (or something) is the best...

[Soulburner]

I don't think 1600x1200 at 150Hz is possible...not even a Trinitron will do that....hell mine maxes at 60Hz at that resolution.

[X-WoLv-X]

`100 mhz will be ok !

[felix88]

1600 x 1200 at 85Hz might be the best you can do.

check out the 19" Sonys and NECs. they're both really nice.

[Soulburner]

Mine is a Sony 19" Trinitron....max @ 1600x1200 is 60Hz.

If I try to run higher I get "out of scan range".

[felix88]

yeah, i've got a Sony G400. i can do 1600x1200 @ 75Hz. the newer ones can supposedly do better. i haven't used the NEC/Mitsubishi units, but i'm pretty sure they can do 1600x1200 @ 85Hz.

[Eru]

I have Iiyama vision master pro 514 22" Im using it at 1800x1440 at 90Hz (2000xxxx 85Hz), Its very good, but u have better for insane prices.

[hollywood]

My monitor

NEC/Mitsubishi FE2111sb

22''

Does 1600x1200 @ 85Hz

Does 1280x1024 @ 100Hz

Only $560.00 on newegg...

My review is the Sean K. one...2nd from last.....

Plain and simple...for the money, this monitor is better than anything you've ever owned.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...002-040&depa=1

[Bonbon]

This is mine :
hyundai imagequest q910 flatron (19")


does 1600*1200 @ 85 Hz


http://www.hyundaiq.com/pro_q910.asp#

pretty cheap monitor

costs +- 255 euro's in belgium

[Der_KHAN]

mine is a 22" iiyama visionmaster pro 514 (hm204dt)
it can do 1600x1200@100Hz or 2048x1536@85Hz
price was 570 euros

but everything above 85Hz makes the picture slightly blurry
desktop with 1600x1200 is still ok, but my sensitive eyes prefer 1280x960@85Hz

i go with 1280x960@85Hz + 4xAA for gaming most of the time (radeon 9800pro)

[Eru]

I have the same monitor and I found res 1800x1440 at 90Hz the best...

[X-WoLv-X]

Great timings...

I want it for havy gaming...

Anybody already seen the new samsungs 1100F ?

WoLv

[G|-|oST]

I am running 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz (21'') and never had any desire to run higher refresh rate. I'd doubt that a higher rate would look any better to a naked eye.

[Tyberius]

Ya I have the 19' NEC MultiSync FE991sb, I love it, its wonderful. Only does 75hz at 1600x1200 though...but i only tend to play at 1280x1024 anyway, i dont like my frames droppin below 60 and they tend to do that at that high of resolution...

[X-WoLv-X]

But when handling an overclocked 9800XT, 1600x1200 is a MUST !



I am still looking for the BEST CRD IN DA HOUSE !!!

heheheheh

Maybe this new samsungs... or the yama`s !

WoLv

[Tyberius]

even an OCd 9800XT, which i have doesnt run ALL games at 1600x1200 as smooth as I'd like it, Halo still tends to drop frames to the 50s range every once in awhile, and thats just not acceptable by my standards.

[DarKcyde]

OK. First things first: do your homework. Dont just take ppl's word for it. Manufacturers list specs, look them up.

You said initially that you want a 17" or 19", but I say don't skimp. You spend your ENTIRE time in front of the computer staring at this thing, get a good 21/22".

My advice: go w/ a NEC/Mitsubishi (they're the same company now). NEC FP2141SB-BK or Mitsubishi 2070SB-BK. Exact same monitor, just diff brand name. I paid about $1000 CDN for mine, you guys do the math for your respective currency. The only nicer monitors are the stupid-high-end Sonys, and those run into the $2000-3000+ dollar range. I did my homework back when I bought mine, and I couldnt find anything nicer in that price range.

Here's what mine can do:
640 x 480 @ 50 to 160 Hz
800 x 600 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1280 x 1024 @ 50 to 127 Hz
1600 x 1200 @ 50 to 109 Hz <--optimum rez, 100Hz, my desktop
1800 x 1350 @ 50 to 98 Hz
1800 x 1440 @ 50 to 92 Hz
1856 x 1392 @ 50 to 95 Hz
1920 x 1440 @ 50 to 92 Hz <--for crazy desktop real estate, comfy 85Hz, text gets a little small tho
2048 x 1536 @ 50 to 86 Hz <--nuckin futz

I generally dont use anything above 16x12, since text gets too small on the desktop, and gaming that high is just useless.

Its got dual VGA inputs, and Super Bright. Basically, that makes movies and games much brighter, but webpages and MS word will hurt your eyes. It exists for a very good reason tho: if you calibrate your monitor properly, most movies look way too dark, you cant see nothin. The superbright fixes that, plus helps dark games, and just looks sweet. What else... oh its black.

Best thing I ever bought for my computer (well, prolly tied w/ my Klipsch).

[Soulburner]

How can you run 1600x1200 on your desktop...that is way too small for me.

I run 1152x864 or 1280x960 max, 100Hz or 85Hz.

Mine is 19" though not 21".

[Tyberius]

1280x1024 is the ticket for me, right at 85hz. I swear, any lower refresh rate than 85 and i get a headache anyone else have this problem? i can see 75hz refreshing, and that hurts my eyes and brain....

[X-WoLv-X]

Hey DarKcyde, 1600 x 1200 @ 100 mhz is damn stunning !

The NEC/Mit is at my list now... thanks for the declaration... hehehe !

21-22 is oversized I think... even to my desk... vbut I will think very carefully about this... it worth !

People, the monitor, is the FINAL PRODUCT to your eyes, representing ALL your machine. Thats why I want a damn good FAST crt monitor...

Thanks for all and let's keep posting...

Cheers,

WoLv

[DarKcyde]

Soulburner: on a 19" 1280 is optimal rez. Past that, txt is just too fargin small.

17" == 1024*768
19" == 1280*1024
21" == 1600*1200

Wolv: while shopping, first thing to check is the rez and refresh rate capabilites. Thats a good first indication of the quality. Then, once you've found a few that do the refresh rates you want, check things like dot pitch. Many aperture grill monitors of this size will list like .22 AG in the center but they're only .25 or .27 at the edges. That means, in general, that it'll look like poo. Make sure its dot pitch is constant across the whole screen.

[X-WoLv-X]

Thank you very much DarK...

And about this dotch pitch stuff, the fabricants do not tell us thsi whole screen indicators...

How can I analyse this...?

WoLv

[X-WoLv-X]

I think I will buy this one or the Samsung 1100DF or the Yama (?) that people are recommending...

What do you think of it, Dark ? It is yours, but you will really advice me to it ?

NEC MultiSync FP2141SB-BK



http://www.necmitsubishi.com/product...assification=1


Detailed Specifications:


Active Display Area:

Full Scan
Horizontal: 16.0 in. / 406.1 mm
Vertical: 12.0 in. / 304.6 mm

Factory Setting
Horizontal: 15.6 in. / 396 mm
Vertical: 11.7 in. / 297 mm

(Dependent upon signal timing used)



Current Rating:

1.5A @ 100-120V
0.7A @ 220-240V



Dimensions:

Net:
19.5 in. (W) x 19.1 in. (H) x 18.5 in. (D)
495 mm (W) x 484.5 mm (H) x 471 mm (D)

Shipping:
24.2 in. (W) x 24.5 in. (H) x 23.4 in. (D)
615 mm (W) x 623 mm (H) x 595 mm (D)



Display Colors:

Analog Input: Unlimited Colors

(Dependent upon display card used)



Input Video Signal:

ANALOG 0.7 Vp-p / 75 Ohms Positive

Picture Tube/Display:

22" (20.0" viewable image size), 90° deflection,
0.24mm aperture grille pitch, medium short
persistence phosphor, sRGB, SuperBright Diamondtron
Totally-Flat Aperture Grille CRT, multi-layered,
anti-static screen coating, dark-tint screen
and OptiClear® screen surface.



Resolutions Supported:

640 x 480 @ 50 to 160 Hz
800 x 600 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1280 x 1024 @ 50 to 127 Hz
1600 x 1200 @ 50 to 109 Hz
1800 x 1350 @ 50 to 98 Hz
1800 x 1440 @ 50 to 92 Hz
1856 x 1392 @ 50 to 95 Hz
1920 x 1440 @ 50 to 92 Hz
2048 x 1536 @ 50 to 86
NOTE: Some systems may not support
all modes listed.

[X-WoLv-X]

or this one:

THE SAMSUNG 1100DF



http://www.samsung.com/Products/Moni..._1100DF_sp.htm

Specifications



Class 1100DF

Item Pet Name SyncMaster 1100DF

Model Name CF21GS (21", DynaFlat, 0kHz)

CDT Size 21" (20" Viewable)

Face DynaFlat

Deflection 90 Degrees

Pitch 0.20(H) mm

Surface treatment Multi-Layer Coating

Input Signal Video signal RGB Analog

Sync signal Separate H/V, Composite, SOG

Horizontal Frequency 30-121 kHz

Vertical Frequency 50-160 Hz

Pixel Frequency 340 MHz

Signal Connection 15pin D-Sub+BNC

Resolution Max 2048x1536 @75Hz

VESA 1920x1440 @80Hz
1800x1440 @80Hz
1856x1392 @82Hz
1792x1344 @85Hz
1600x1200 @95Hz
1280x1024 @110Hz
1152x864 @129Hz
1024x768 @144Hz
800x600 @160Hz
640x480 @160Hz

Recommended 1,280x1,024 @85Hz

Display Size Typical(mm) 393x295

Max(mm) 406.4x304.8

Mode Factory/User 8/10 modes

Power Supply AC90~264VAC,50/60Hz

Consumption(nominal) 120WW

Power Management <2W @Off State

Regulation EPA/Energy2000/VESA DPMS

User Control Display DirectorTM Brightness, Contrast, Position, Size, Zoom, Parallelogram, Rotation, Pincushion, Trapezoid, Pinbalance, Side Pin Corner, Pin balance Corner, Color1/2, sRGB, Clear Moire, Linearity,Focus, Convergence, Purity Degauss, Recall, Video Input level, Sync.Input type, D-sub/BNC, Display Timing, Menu Position, Menu Duration, Languages, OSD Lock/Unlock, Highlight Zone(Position, Size, Contrast, Color, Zoom, Sharpness)

OSD Languages Applied


Plug & Play DDC DDC 2B/2Bi/GTF

Special Feature Highlight Zone IITM,MouScreenTM

Regulation Enviromental/Ergonomics UL,CSA,TUV,CB,NEMKO,Korea EK,CCIB,PSB,NOM,GOST

Windows Logo Windows98/2000/ME/XP

Set Size Set(WxDxH mm) 504x500x508

Weight Set/Packing (Kg) 28/32.1

Accessory Software Kit Install Driver, Manual,Natural ColorTM

USB Hub

Multimedia Stand