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    I dont have the nickel barbs but....





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    Originally posted by Jabo
    Check out this baby

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    oooh yeah! :smileysex

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    I sure wish Cathar would go back into full production mode.
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    Dam! 90% of those blocks are unknown in the US anyways. I also think they based their ratings on a weakass pump. Least they could've used was a 1250 and a larger rad . They're full-o-crap

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    Originally posted by saaya
    where can i see it?
    2-barb Cascade SS



    3-barb Cascade SS



    The XXX will externally look much the same as the 3-barb SS.
    Internally it packs 149 jet/cup pairs into about the same area as a US 5c piece (i.e. a nickel). Grab a nickel, take a look at it, and imagine fitting 149 jets in there, each individually machined and carved out of a single piece of polycarbonate.

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    *drools*

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    Those are the pics...thanks for reposting them...beautiful!
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    Originally posted by TheDude
    Those are the pics...thanks for reposting them...
    Actually this is my favorite picture, mainly because it took about 3 hours of work to achieve the finish on the two bases.


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    thx cathar the 3 barb one looks nice! so did you plan to use cermaics or carbon-foam? there is a diamond foam a guy from austria made 2 blocks with. the diamond foam is extremely expensive (1000$+ for a 40x40x5mm plate iirc )

    he got them for free though. the stuff transfairs heat around 50% better than copper! im sure theres some cheaper ceramic wich has almost the same heat transfair capabilities though.

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    cathar, how do you get that finish on the blocks?

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    Hmmm perfect mirror finish embodied

    I wonder what would be the price of one block if produced en masse?
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    Wow Cathar....I haven't seen that one before! Sweet!
    My block is still working hard and cooling great!
    I'd love to have one of those new silver and nickel ones!
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    Originally posted by saaya
    so did you plan to use cermaics or carbon-foam? there is a diamond foam a guy from austria made 2 blocks with. the diamond foam is extremely expensive (1000$+ for a 40x40x5mm plate iirc )

    he got them for free though. the stuff transfairs heat around 50% better than copper! im sure theres some cheaper ceramic wich has almost the same heat transfair capabilities though.
    No, no plan to use ceramics, etc.

    Here's why:

    Predicted thermal resistance of Cascade design due to material used:

    Copper, C110 (380W/m-K): 0.028
    Silver, Pure (420W/m-K): 0.025
    Diamond/Carbon Ceramic (600W/m-K): 0.018

    At ~40% better thermal conductivity than silver, then we're talking about a total C/W difference of around 0.007 for a design like the Cascade, or about a 0.7C difference on a fairly hot bare-die CPU under load. The cost of the material doesn't really justify the gain. Seriously, I'd just buy a Prometia instead. At least for silver, it looks good. Anything more than ~$100US on materials is basically pointless given the alternatives for superior cooling.

    The XXX is just an experiment - just to see really how far waterblocks can go, especially for overclocking. I've already shown that the Cascade SS can be used to match a Vapo PE for overclocking. I'm still of the firm belief that adequate CPU hot-spot management is the trick to enabling water-cooling, which seems like it wouldn't have a hope in heck of competing with phase-change, actually holding its own very well and especially under very high heat loads.

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    well you dont need an entire base of that cermamic, a plate of 4 times the size of the core would be enough and from what ive seen so far it doesnt seem to be hard to implement the ceramic into a copper base plate.

    do you have images of the hot spots of a cpu? would be interesting to see. i wonder if most of the heat is produced in the middle of the core or on some edges. i think intel released a set of images showing the hot spots of nw compared to prescott.

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    Ooopsie, forgot to praise it properly

    Seriuosly, Cathar, your love for the thing shows here in it's full glory (no sarcasm here, really admire outstanding workmanshipd and sleek design)
    Stock is never good enough!

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    Cathar, I don't think I've ever been more impressed by anything I've ever seen before. Truly amazing...and I want one....now.

    Btw, you have a pm. Thanks.

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