2080Ti 2080 Reviews

[AliG]

Unless they know AMD has something that might spoil their run coming very soon. Haven't heard much of anything from them, just like before Ryzen was dropped on Intel's lap.

Maybe Nvidia knows something we don't, but Ryzen was not a surprise. We knew a lot about it a good year in advance and AMD did several previews of it's performance (like the blender test) to get investors excited.

AMD is being uncharacteristicly quiet. Either they have nothing or they are going to carpet bomb Nvidia.

I think they will refresh Vega and stay competitive with pricing (Nvidia isn't making it hard). It'll be another year or two for them really catch up I think. If real time ray tracing takes off as quickly as Nvidia seems to think it will, AMD could find themselves a bit behind...

AMD being quiet is historically a bad sign. They let out tons of sneak previews of Athlon 64 and Ryzen, but were dead silent on Bulldozer once it began to slip deadlines. Same analogy holds true for the HD 4870 through 7870 vs Vega. I think they have nothing in the GPU space and know it. There's a reason they spun off Radeon technologies as a separate entity, and that's so they can break it out of the bottom line in the investor reports. I don't think it's impossible for them to catch up - but Nvidia, unlike Intel, isn't letting off the gas pedal while they're on top.

[SADS]

I understand but bigger means more costly to manufacture. Im also reasonably certain GDDR6 isn't cheap either. And the "performance" you are referring to only applies to half the chip. The potential is much higher than Pascal.

That said, until ray racing and IA AA (what ever its called) becomes mainstream, I wouldn't buy one if there's cards regardless the price.

Still, the cost of the product isn't something I care about as a consumer, if the cost has gone up, that's not my fault. It's something that NV has to handle, not necessarily pass onto the customer. Especially when the product doesn't appear to deliver.
I do get what you're saying about the potential performance though, but as consumers we shouldn't be buying based on hopes and dreams.... regardless of whether people actually are or not

[StAndrew]

Still, the cost of the product isn't something I care about as a consumer, if the cost has gone up, that's not my fault. It's something that NV has to handle, not necessarily pass onto the customer. Especially when the product doesn't appear to deliver.
I do get what you're saying about the potential performance though, but as consumers we shouldn't be buying based on hopes and dreams.... regardless of whether people actually are or not

I agree on the "wait and see" point. Not laying out a grand on promises. But in the end the company won't be judged on how overpriced it was but how well it sells. Its funny how so many people blame the company for prices but hey, if there are enough stupids with too much money, can't blame Nvidia. All indications I've seen says preorders are selling well.

AMD being quiet is historically a bad sign. They let out tons of sneak previews of Athlon 64 and Ryzen, but were dead silent on Bulldozer once it began to slip deadlines. Same analogy holds true for the HD 4870 through 7870 vs Vega. I think they have nothing in the GPU space and know it. There's a reason they spun off Radeon technologies as a separate entity, and that's so they can break it out of the bottom line in the investor reports. I don't think it's impossible for them to catch up - but Nvidia, unlike Intel, isn't letting off the gas pedal while they're on top.

Agreed. I'm not expecting more than refresh with smaller nodes and slightly better performance. They should do well in the price/performance though.

[kromosto]

IMO AMD will gain market on computing side with 7nm and energy decrease.

I am not blaming nvidia about anything including price. But I love to think and try to understand pricing and marketing strategies which I am trying to do here.

A certain rushed release with performance increase lower than expected and higher pricing. Maybe I cant do anything more than speculation but why not to think about this?

[zanzabar]

The 2070 is a low end chip (106) and they want $600. That is way too much for a low end chip.

[dengyong]

Does anyone know when the 2080 ti will be available for sale in the US ?

[zanzabar]

I would guess november given how many preorders there were and tsmc 12nm being slow still.

[dengyong]

I would guess november given how many preorders there were and tsmc 12nm being slow still.

I can't even find a place to preorder. Any links ?

[zanzabar]

I can't even find a place to preorder. Any links ?

The cards already launched so no more preorders. They had day one stock then have to fill pre orders. That is why I guessed November. If you have a small local store they might have a list?