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    Where is everyone, we have a sprint going on....

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    Yep seems this forum has pretty much died out. OCN seems to be fairly active, but pretty bugged and borked over there.
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    I tried logging into overclock.net a few months ago, their login form was borked.
    Even after a half @ssed attempt at patching their html stuff it still wouldn't work.
    Tried multiple browsers.
    Go figure, Kinda weird, I even replied about it on tw, no answer I dn wth.
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    I think the problem is just the evolution of hardware.

    when we first started, we had to take absolute garbage boards, and do crazy things, like completely remove every cap on the board and find some random guy that could speak japanese, to get us caps that wouldnt explode when we did some crazy OC.
    Now, you can find anything, the most obscure items imaginable, are just a click away on Ebay, or Amazon.

    We had to dig through schematics, that just kinda "showed up" and research where and how to volt mod something. Now you want more power? Go into Bios, set it to enough voltage to melt your desk if you want... the options there.
    Everything we use to do, is now just on the board - sure, you now pay $700 for a board, and 75% of the features are worthless, but you want 16 phase digital VRMs?Enough voltage then you will ever need? caps that wont explode? It's on the board - just pay extra now. So all the engineers, and super specialized people who just kinda hung around and were experts at 2-3 things, they just dont have much to do now I guess.

    Remember when intel was getting destroyed by the AMD64 - then one day, a few people from japan posted some obscure screen shots from a CPU no one recognized - the Merom core, and it was Intel, and it was some how just obliterating the AMD64? Yet, we didnt really know what the Merom core was yet.... but with 10,000 curious people, we knew the next day, and then for months we had Asus selling us laptop / desktop custom CPU adaptors - and when they were no where to be found, some how Saaya knew a guy in like germany - that had a small stash of them, and sourced them to us as much as he could, and then Intel just dropped a atom bomb on us, when they released the Conroe - and since then, Intel stopped being a joke again, and became the juggernaught we know for the last decade or so. I am not sure something like that could ever happen again.

    Everything we use to do, was just kinda cannibalized into the main stream, when we did it, it was a taboo word - you never told a PC part company you overclocked something, or your warranty was done. Now, you can pay $40 and get insurance and a 1 time no hassle replacement on a CPU if you burn it up overclocking. It's all really weird, I liken it to how a old school real punk must feel - when they see green day on TV being called punk, and avril lavigne being called a "pop punk princess".

    Maybe those days when a new OC would attract 10,000 casual people looking for the crazy knowledge you can find around here. Maybe now, overclocking to alot of people is just enable XMP, up the multiplier, buy an AIO watercooler, and brag to your friends how awsome your RBG makes your computer super adorable, like a rainbow colored rave in your bedroom.

    But some of us still lurk around, decompiling a driver or modding a bios because "there's no ing way a 5700 is just a bios locked 5700 xt and I am not gonna wander WTF, and how can I with that".

    There arent many of us left, maybe now Overclocking is just a cute extra feature for some kid to brag about to his friends in CS:GO how he gets 900 FPS with freesync, and his pre-overclocked PC.

    But we are out there, still tinkering.... and we didnt need cute lights on a fan as a reason to open up our PC.

    Maybe those days are gone, but some of us, are still out there.

    I know Bowman's up to something, OPPainter is tinkering, Mr.Icee giving out life advice, JCViggen, Macci, Hiwayman, all of them.
    Some never needed an audience, or youtube channel to OC, because it was just fun to break hardware and make it do something it was never meant to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak View Post

    Some never needed an audience, or youtube channel to OC, because it was just fun to break hardware and make it do something it was never meant to do.
    These utube clockers can't clock if their life depended on it.

    Thuban and Sandy Bridge was the peak for the community, These chips are great still,4ghz+ gave us massive gains,Some chips are 4.5/5ghz stable aswell.

    Compared to ocing Ryzen9 or corei9,there is nothing exciting to see.

    Ryzen9 should really be reaching for 5ghz+,a 7ghz thuban might take it

    I would love a RoboClocker

    Now if your not using 16cores or more Xtreme cooling doesn't yield enough to warrant its cost.

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    I think I first came here to learn how to overclock my FX-53/Socket 939. Good times!

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    What happened to Saaya? He was great with Cellshock then at froxconn where he made an OC line for them.
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    I agree Kunaak. I've been lurking around here for years. I don't as much since the site had all the issues, but its working back into my surfing flow. I'm just as addicted to computer hardware as I was 25 years ago, but it has changed. Like you said, we used to be on the fringes, now everyone does it. But I'll be lurking around till I'm gone. Just love the PC hardware!

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    AMD is BACK, Hopefully that will bring Xtreme Back.
    We had THE BEST, BY FAR, Forum back then IMO.
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    True, AMD is very much throwing up some good results at the moment!
    Maybe my next update will be to AMD again, I'm half hoping that they can beat out intel even more dominantly in games and i'll be sold!

    Although, I am planning to go microATX on my next build and I've not seen any boards that size for their new CPUs yet.
    I'm tired of people saying how big my box is at the moment :*(
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    Quote Originally Posted by SADS View Post
    True, AMD is very much throwing up some good results at the moment!
    Maybe my next update will be to AMD again, I'm half hoping that they can beat out intel even more dominantly in games and i'll be sold!

    Although, I am planning to go microATX on my next build and I've not seen any boards that size for their new CPUs yet.
    I'm tired of people saying how big my box is at the moment :*(
    Micro ATX seams dead, mini DTX seams like the way to go now.
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    Mini, micro, DTX.... These drive me crazy! especially how micro was bigger than mini!

    either way....something smaller XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak View Post
    I think the problem is just the evolution of hardware.

    when we first started, we had to take absolute garbage boards, and do crazy things, like completely remove every cap on the board and find some random guy that could speak japanese, to get us caps that wouldnt explode when we did some crazy OC.
    Now, you can find anything, the most obscure items imaginable, are just a click away on Ebay, or Amazon.

    We had to dig through schematics, that just kinda "showed up" and research where and how to volt mod something. Now you want more power? Go into Bios, set it to enough voltage to melt your desk if you want... the options there.
    Everything we use to do, is now just on the board - sure, you now pay $700 for a board, and 75% of the features are worthless, but you want 16 phase digital VRMs?Enough voltage then you will ever need? caps that wont explode? It's on the board - just pay extra now. So all the engineers, and super specialized people who just kinda hung around and were experts at 2-3 things, they just dont have much to do now I guess.

    Remember when intel was getting destroyed by the AMD64 - then one day, a few people from japan posted some obscure screen shots from a CPU no one recognized - the Merom core, and it was Intel, and it was some how just obliterating the AMD64? Yet, we didnt really know what the Merom core was yet.... but with 10,000 curious people, we knew the next day, and then for months we had Asus selling us laptop / desktop custom CPU adaptors - and when they were no where to be found, some how Saaya knew a guy in like germany - that had a small stash of them, and sourced them to us as much as he could, and then Intel just dropped a atom bomb on us, when they released the Conroe - and since then, Intel stopped being a joke again, and became the juggernaught we know for the last decade or so. I am not sure something like that could ever happen again.

    Everything we use to do, was just kinda cannibalized into the main stream, when we did it, it was a taboo word - you never told a PC part company you overclocked something, or your warranty was done. Now, you can pay $40 and get insurance and a 1 time no hassle replacement on a CPU if you burn it up overclocking. It's all really weird, I liken it to how a old school real punk must feel - when they see green day on TV being called punk, and avril lavigne being called a "pop punk princess".

    Maybe those days when a new OC would attract 10,000 casual people looking for the crazy knowledge you can find around here. Maybe now, overclocking to alot of people is just enable XMP, up the multiplier, buy an AIO watercooler, and brag to your friends how awsome your RBG makes your computer super adorable, like a rainbow colored rave in your bedroom.

    But some of us still lurk around, decompiling a driver or modding a bios because "there's no ing way a 5700 is just a bios locked 5700 xt and I am not gonna wander WTF, and how can I with that".

    There arent many of us left, maybe now Overclocking is just a cute extra feature for some kid to brag about to his friends in CS:GO how he gets 900 FPS with freesync, and his pre-overclocked PC.

    But we are out there, still tinkering.... and we didnt need cute lights on a fan as a reason to open up our PC.

    Maybe those days are gone, but some of us, are still out there.

    I know Bowman's up to something, OPPainter is tinkering, Mr.Icee giving out life advice, JCViggen, Macci, Hiwayman, all of them.
    Some never needed an audience, or youtube channel to OC, because it was just fun to break hardware and make it do something it was never meant to do.
    Pretty much true.
    Then, performance is now good even without any OC, I hardly do it anymore because its just not really noticeable on most games and applications, if it is I consider power costs and how much it will heat my room up. I also just got tired of CPU's degrading over time and out of the blue I start getting blue screens on my main rig on a day I have a ton of important stuff to do... yeah I used to run SS Phase on my everyday rig, not anymore.

    I did build a lot of rigs for HFT guys, water cooled servers YEAH. They still use the ones I built even tho they are several years old now. 3960x's still have a bunch of performance left in them at 4.8GHz.

    Now its just go into your ASUS BIOS and hit OC level 1,2,3... save and restart and your good.

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    I tend to agree. Back in the day, the performance was really conservative in stock hardware and the stock cooling was generally small.
    People couple actually go mad with adding cooling to get their machine quieter or cooler and push the hardware further.

    I think now, the hardware is released with a lot less headroom so the gains aren't as exciting as they used to be.
    I was never a super super OCer, but always squeezed what i could reasonably. It used to be that I could get 10-30% extra from my kit. But now it almost feels like there's barely 10-15% to be had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SADS View Post
    I tend to agree. Back in the day, the performance was really conservative in stock hardware and the stock cooling was generally small.
    People couple actually go mad with adding cooling to get their machine quieter or cooler and push the hardware further.

    I think now, the hardware is released with a lot less headroom so the gains aren't as exciting as they used to be.
    I was never a super super OCer, but always squeezed what i could reasonably. It used to be that I could get 10-30% extra from my kit. But now it almost feels like there's barely 10-15% to be had.
    If you get into what is technically overclocking there are bigger gains than 10-15. All core frequencies and things that fix turbo have big gains on intel, and overclocked ram/mesh is way more than that with amd. You can use multicore enhancement or ram profiles it will do that for you tho.
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    Overclocking always fun regardless of hardwares. It was fun with AMD FX57 on single stage @ -30C (colder and cold bug will take over) and It is so much fun with Ryzen 3800X

    There is no other site like XS where overclocking needs no rank, league, extreem and rookie! Just overclock and have fun
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    wish this system was half decent at OC'ing, seriously hate how bad this machine is... have to close FF every so often just due to the amount of damn memory being used... gods i need a new machine

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    There are wonderful memories. I agree with what Kunaak and Buckeye have written above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chessman View Post
    There are wonderful memories. I agree with what Kunaak and Buckeye have written above.
    I miss running to RadioShack to get some pots for a voltmod. Nowadays, it's so uninvolved that anybody can OC. Click, click, done
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    Things can never remain the same. If anything tries, it becomes stagnate and die off.
    While i get the feelings of loss and the way things used to be, but its better to grow. The hard part is growing with it.

    But then again, it is me talking...

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    Hey everyone! This was a nice thread to read through, especially seeing familiar names and the poignant thoughts on how overclocking has evolved since the early days of XS

    I joined XS when I was 13 and just getting into computers (I'm 29 now), and the years reading and posting here allowed me to not only develop expertise in electronics (and the associated physics and chemistry topics), but more importantly taught me how to quickly learn a topic in-depth: find where the experts are, and be like a sponge. Beyond XS, I've used this same approach to develop expertise in audio and video (Head-Fi and AVS), travel hacking (FlyerTalk), nutrition (mostly books and podcasts), data analytics, and just general research and problem solving.

    Because of XS, electronics have been a huge part of my life: I got experience running my own mini computer repair business as a teenager (and made pretty decent money!), my first job was IT for the government in high school, I will always have an engineering and DIY mindset, I'm an audiophile and videophile (the sane version ), computer wizardry has been integral to my success in management consulting (Excel, PowerPoint, and Tableau), I interned in iPhone manufacturing/supply chain a couple years back, and I'll very likely spend a significant portion of my career in electronics of some sort. XS really was the start of this all, and allowed my interest to flourish.


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    To be honest, I was reading about how the new AMD chips can be decoupled from the memory frequency and are very dependant on memory performance.

    This takes me straight back to NF2 boards and DDR2... Maybe we will see a resurgence in tweakers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    What happened to Saaya? He was great with Cellshock then at froxconn where he made an OC line for them.
    Wat up peeps!!

    Time for aother post down memory lane



    Yeah, whatever happened to saaya ?? We do/have seen most of the hardcore here and there, but saaya, that is one name I havnt seen in years.

    Saaya, where you at? Hope all is well.

    Also got caught out, as many of the avatars that were associated with member names are no longer appearing, so takes a extra micro second to associate names we have not seen for a long time with their 'characters'

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