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    [News] Intel Releases CPU Benchmarks with Meltdown and Spectre Mitigations

    https://www.techpowerup.com/240549/i...re-mitigations

    It's safe to say that there's one thing that you don't mess around with, and that's performance. Enthusiasts don't spend hundreds of dollars on a processor to watch it underperform. Given the complicated nature of the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities, Microsoft's so-called mitigations were bound to have an impact on processor performance. The million dollar question was: Just how much? The initial estimate was somewhere around 30%, but Intel, being optimistic as usual, expected the performance impact to be insignificant for the average user. They recently provided some preliminary benchmark results that looked quite convincing too. Well, let's take a look at their findings, shall we?

    Intel measured the mitgations' impact on CPU performance using their 6th, 7th, and 8th Generation Intel Core processors but, more specifically, the i7-6700K, i7-7920HQ, i7-8650U, and i7-8700K. The preferred operating system used in the majority of the benchmarks was Windows 10, however, Windows 7 also made a brief appearance. Intel chose four key benchmarks for their testing. SYSmark 2014 SE evaluated CPU performance on an enterprise level simulating office productivity, data and financial analysis, and media creation. PC Mark 10, on the other hand, tested performance in real-world usage employing different workloads like web browsing, video conferencing, application start-up time, spreadsheets, writing, and digital content creation. 3DMark Sky Diver assessed CPU performance in a DirectX 11 gaming scenario. Lastly, WebXPRT 2015 measured system performance using six HTML5- and JavaScript-based workloads which include photo enhancement, organize album, stock option pricing, local notes, sales graphs, and explore DNA sequencing.

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    How could they get above 100% is some cases (very few) but.... So in those cases the new patch was an improvement ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye View Post
    How could they get above 100% is some cases (very few) but.... So in those cases the new patch was an improvement ?
    i thought joe average user wasn't affected by this at all.


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    Yes, you do have to patch your systems. Though older systems make take a long time to get the necessary microcode updates for safety. Some older systems may never get microcode updates.

    It was thought that most consumer workloads would not be affected by Spectre or even Meltdown patches. Looks like, at least for Win7 users, that may be wrong.

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    although numbers are horrible for intel imo still pc is not the case it is all about servers. Most of the servers are %100 utilized and I think numbers we will see for them are worst than these.


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    Wonder what effects I'll have on my Sandy Bridge, if any.

    And how risky it is to even use my PC anymore. Huh.
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    Can someone clarify the danger on a home user system?

    Does the attacker need physical access to a computer or remote access? How would a firewall and antivirus protect against this threat? I doubt my system will ever get a bios update. It might be time to upgrade to AMD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StAndrew View Post
    Can someone clarify the danger on a home user system?

    Does the attacker need physical access to a computer or remote access? How would a firewall and antivirus protect against this threat? I doubt my system will ever get a bios update. It might be time to upgrade to AMD...
    What I get is it can be done with a remote access and if somehow hacker can run a code that uses this vulnerability on your computer then you left on hackers mercy. I don't think today antivirus software is capable of preventing this but they may get an update soon. I don't believe firewall can do anything about this.


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    All it takes is one malicious script to "root" your system (more or less, terminology is not correct for Windows but what can you do). Proof-of-concept scripts are out there already.

    Once it happens, there's no way software can save you, and if the attacker is clever they could probably flash in a malicious UEFI/BIOS as well to permanently gain control of the machine. That means, new motherboard or BIOS chip, unless you have a reliable dual BIOS setup.

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    The good thing is it sounds like it has to be pretty well targeted - not just some sort of "drive by" due to the work involved - so for the average home user it isn't too likely to happen to them. But still...

    Maybe I'll just use this as a good excuse to upgrade my PC. Hey honey, my PC is affected by some major security flaw, And it is 7 year old hardware anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    The good thing is it sounds like it has to be pretty well targeted - not just some sort of "drive by" due to the work involved - so for the average home user it isn't too likely to happen to them. But still...

    Maybe I'll just use this as a good excuse to upgrade my PC. Hey honey, my PC is affected by some major security flaw, And it is 7 year old hardware anyway...
    This ^

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    I just wish Zen 2 was here this year as that would be perfect. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I just wish Zen 2 was here this year as that would be perfect. Oh well.
    I thought it was? Or are they calling it 1.5? Ryzen is a handsome boost over my current rig and I might jump on a used 1600 when the new Ryzen processors are released.
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    Zen+ is the new incoming refresh. Zen2 is more major, and that is next year IIRC. Zen+ should still be good though and likely what I'll get if I do actually upgrade this year.
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    Ryzen 2 in April (Pinnacle Ridge). Ryzen 3 = Zen 2 = 2019.

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