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    [News] DRAM Output in 2018 Planned for Continued High Pricing - TrendForce

    https://www.techpowerup.com/237970/d...ing-trendforce

    DRAMeXchange, a division of TrendForce, has come forward with the expected announcement that DRAM output in 2018 likely won't be enough to fully satisfy supply. This has been the case for some time now. However, what started with simple insufficient output that could contain the explosion of DRAM capacity in smartphones seems to now be turning into a conscious decision by the three top memory manufacturers. Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix are seemingly setting output at a lower than required level so as to artificially inflate pricing due to low supply. TrendForce themselves say so, in that these suppliers "(...) have opted to slow down their capacity expansions and technology migrations so that they can keep next year's prices at the same high level as during this year's second half. Doing so will also help them to sustain a strong profit margin."

    DRAM production is expected to increase by 19,6% in 2018; however, this ratio is lower than the expected growth in demand, which is being pegged at 20,6%. This means 2018 is likely to see increased constraint in the supply channels (whereas 2018 was actually expected to see a slight relief in supply issues). This means that pricing will either stabilize or tend to increase from current levels. To be fair, semiconductor production isn't as simple as hitting a "increase production by 10x" button; reports say that all three players are contending with insufficient room to expand output on their production lines, and getting a new production facility online isn't a trivial effort - neither in funds, nor on time. However... All involved companies would much rather keep prices as they are than see them being brought down by oversupply.

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    Lame.

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    Well, they need some excuse to keep prices inflated.
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    Right, because competing for market share is never a winning option.

    Weren't most of the world's major DRAM manufacturers smacked around for collusion not so long ago? Do they never learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmrlordx View Post
    Right, because competing for market share is never a winning option.

    Weren't most of the world's major DRAM manufacturers smacked around for collusion not so long ago? Do they never learn?
    there are only like 3 left ATM. there is just Taiwan memory syndicate (nyaa, promos, qimonda,) samsung, and hynx. toshiba and a couple others do exist, but they make crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    there are only like 3 left ATM. there is just Taiwan memory syndicate (nyaa, promos, qimonda,) samsung, and hynx. toshiba and a couple others do exist, but they make crap.
    And Micron. But Micron had some serious problems not too long ago . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmrlordx View Post
    And Micron. But Micron had some serious problems not too long ago . . .
    are they still shipping consumer parts for dram?
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    I think so. I could be wrong though. There are still Micron-based sticks for sale out there. Though I think you'd be a little nutty if you wanted them.

    Toshiba is basically screwed. They are hardly worth mentioning.

    The funny thing is that right now would be a great time for a nearly-mothballed DRAM manufacturer to fire up the fabs and make some ready-for-phones crap DRAM ICs just to bloat up the market a little bit and take the edge off a little. Increasing prices should increase the chance of someone else entering the ring to try to fight for profits. And yet, it isn't happening.

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    Probably because of pricing agreements with fabs for the chips and the makers of equipment to make modules and so forth.

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