The Threadripper Report (or the lack of it)

[chew*]

Did you run prime 95 29.1 ?

I could bench run tasks fine...mission critical stability which i suspect would be intended use...not so fine heat wise not to mention it would throttle or crash due to heat...or hit thermal shutdown.

The power for hard forum jumped to double...so 400-500 watts of cooling @ 4.0 stress stable that was custom on a prototype TR block...

[Buckeye]

Nah no Prime, I don't run that stuff anymore, whats the point really.

I really like the platform and all the bells and whistles.
MSI did a good job on how it OC's. Just dial it to 4GHz, set XMP to 3200 and bingo.

I still have some other boards coming in, but I am thinking ASUS Zenith Extreme will be the one.
Right now I am leaning to swap out the TR system for my main rig and sell off the dual E5-2699v3 system.

[chew*]

Well you dont need to run prime but if it can run it stock...and it can not higher. Its not stable.

To each his own on that.

Run cb @ 4.0...if your not 3500 score and higher your running hot

[Buckeye]

I did, my score is 3464
The Water 3 Ultimate is a triple rad AIO, it handled it just fine.

[chew*]

3464 is very close to best that can be done.

Not bad.

Surely beats that 3300 @ 4.0 nda breach pre launch leak that looked like it was throttling back.

[Buckeye]

Yeah I was happy with that score. MSI have done a nice job with the auto OC settings. That was pure auto 4 GHz OC.

[StyM]

so a 4ghz threadripper need an AIO ? air doesn't cut it ?

[chew*]

Depends on use. Imho if you plan on hardcore usage overclocked @ 4.0 100% load....aio wont be enough either.

If you plan on using it for gaming as its sole usage probably be fine but....you win dunce of the year award.

[Buckeye]

I would say yes on AIO also, or even a better entry level type of WC setup.

[bluestang]

Something useful like putting that sucker on WCG would be nice...do some good research and some nice points for team XtemeSystems!

But that's just me and what I would do

[HTC]

so a 4ghz threadripper need an AIO ? air doesn't cut it ?

Depends on use. Imho if you plan on hardcore usage overclocked @ 4.0 100% load....aio wont be enough either.

If you plan on using it for gaming as its sole usage probably be fine but....you win dunce of the year award.

Then i take it a cooler such as Noctua's NH-U14S TR4-SP3 for 4.0 GHz would also be insufficient?

[chew*]

Full load...probably not great.

[HTC]

Full load...probably not great.

Can't find a single review ...

Unlike most AIOs (except those just announced very recently), this Noctua cooler's base actually covers the whole socket. Skip to 11:33 to see what i mean (about the AIOs), with the images on the right side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWu2tcm4wL8

I suspect the lack of "proper" socket coverage may play a role with overclocking temps.

[chew*]

Not totally. Its more the cold plate imo. I had nearly full ihs coverage on the swiftech parts. Ill know if it makes any difference soon...bunch of stuffs on the way.

Drive x2 adapters (has a better cold plate and i can just put it on its own better quality radiator and eliminate the h220x2 setup altogether) 2 1950xs...and taichi x399.

[Buckeye]

Can't find a single review ...

Unlike most AIOs (except those just announced very recently), this Noctua cooler's base actually covers the whole socket. Skip to 11:33 to see what i mean (about the AIOs), with the images on the right side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWu2tcm4wL8

I suspect the lack of "proper" socket coverage may play a role with overclocking temps.

Problem is right now those Noctua's are super hard to get, many HS's for TR are not even available yet.

[HTC]

Not totally. Its more the cold plate imo. I had nearly full ihs coverage on the swiftech parts. Ill know if it makes any difference soon...bunch of stuffs on the way.

Drive x2 adapters (has a better cold plate and i can just put it on its own better quality radiator and eliminate the h220x2 setup altogether) 2 1950xs...and taichi x399.

I figured less then 100% coverage could result in higher then necessary temps thus limiting overclocking, which is why i suggested that Noctua cooler since it's base supposedly covers the whole socket.

Problem is right now those Noctua's are super hard to get, many HS's for TR are not even available yet.

Really? Was not aware!

[Buckeye]

Yeah Newegg does not even list Socket TR4 coolers yet.
Right now we are limited to coolers that fit the bracket included with TR itself. And of the ones listed on AMDs page should work, except for ones not released yet.
https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

You will find some on the list not available atm.

This is why I went with the Thermaltake Water 3 Ultimate, it fit the included bracket perfect.

[HTC]

Yeah Newegg does not even list Socket TR4 coolers yet.
Right now we are limited to coolers that fit the bracket included with TR itself. And of the ones listed on AMDs page should work, except for ones not released yet.
https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

You will find some on the list not available atm.

This is why I went with the Thermaltake Water 3 Ultimate, it fit the included bracket perfect.

The potential problem i see with that is that, though they said it's 100% compatible, as can be seen in the video below, the outer edge of the CCXs seems outside the micro-fins of the copper base's AIO cooler that fits into the included TR bracket: it's slight but it's there.

This is why the AIO coolers that use the TR included bracket may be sufficient for stock but may be problematic for OCing.

Video i wanted to post in post #38, but couldn't find it @ that time: skip to 6:17.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvGYxaMLc0

[Buckeye]

Well yeah, they are smaller.

I run my TR on a Thermaltake water 3 ultimate as I have said, which is about the same size as the one he posted about in the video, maybe a tad bit bigger, I don't know.
I run mine at 4GHz OC and it works just fine.

If you want to wait for coolers that match the size that's fine.

Keep in mind that its really early for new HS's to come out, just wait a bit and get something you will be happy with.

[HTC]

Well yeah, they are smaller.

I run my TR on a Thermaltake water 3 ultimate as I have said, which is about the same size as the one he posted about in the video, maybe a tad bit bigger, I don't know.
I run mine at 4GHz OC and it works just fine.

If you want to wait for coolers that match the size that's fine.

Keep in mind that its really early for new HS's to come out, just wait a bit and get something you will be happy with.

I'm not waiting for anything: TR is way WAY out of both my needs as well as my wallet. My current R5 1600 can already be considered overkill for my usage needs, which is why i intend to UV / UC it: will need to do some research on that, though!

I was just curious about how the Noctua cooler i mentioned would perform on these chips, especially OCed, considering the cooler's base properly matches the socket, unlike the coolers seen in the videos i posted.

[Buckeye]

I don't think anyone has tested the TR Noc yet. I suspect it will not be that great for 4GHz loads.
I love Noc's tho, all my rigs have them but unless this thing is huge I can't see an air cooler performing well with these chips at high OC's.
I don't know for sure tho... who knows.

[HTC]

I don't think anyone has tested the TR Noc yet. I suspect it will not be that great for 4GHz loads.
I love Noc's tho, all my rigs have them but unless this thing is huge I can't see an air cooler performing well with these chips at high OC's.
I don't know for sure tho... who knows.

Huge doesn't quite cover it. Check the Computex clip below, from 13:38 onwards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXg9xDze5U

The coolers are big but their base is massive: does seem to cover the entire socket!

Noctua claims that even a "small" 92mm cooler can cool TR but it requires 2 fans ... and obviously no OCing, i'm guessing.

I have a Noctua cooler myself (NH-C14), with my R5 1600: almost got a heart attack when removing the stock cooler for it, though.

[Buckeye]

WOW it is huge !!

From past experience with LN2 and AMD chips I learned to bring the board into the BIOS for a minute or so, shut down, and then remove the Pot/Heat sinks. That softens up the TIM.
Yes I pulled a few chips out of the socket myself LOL

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Been busy but one box arrived.

[bluestang]

Lucky bastards you guys are!