[News] AMD Radeon Vega Frontier for 1,199 USD [Update: Benchmark]

[NEOAethyr]

Hate to break it to you guys but there are no reviews...
It's a professional card (or amd says...).
So unless someone forks over the $1200+ you won't see it :\

And why so serious you guys?

[AbortRetryFail?]

I'm thinking there is no real reason to expect a significant difference between the roll-out of Vega when compared to Fiji -- gyrations and posturing otherwise seem quite comical.

Of course, AMD will selectively maximize clocks, boost rates and voltages where applicable to be competitive in a desktop gaming environment. Key word: Maximize

But as Fiji demonstrated, AMD has a good deal more to juggle. There is likely a good bit of silicon that will perform at 90% with half the power consumption (think R9 Nano) and slobber-knock P100. Culling those chips from the herd and selling individual cards for $10,000 seems like good bidness to me. Even better when the silicon is 'clustered' and sold for really, really big cash.

Worrying about Crysis framerates at 4K, ehhhh, not-so-much ...

[Dimitriman]

Someone is reviewing it already. Follow it here:

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/w...ent-3389637553

https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/

So far first score is 17,313 in Firestrike.

[Andi64]

23K graphics score... it's a crap.

[Levish]

not too bad, possibly will get a bit better; he's running with haswell and who knows what driver situation is.

[SinOfLiberty]

Even the AMD Marketing guy warns the community that they need a bigger PSU to the card. And people still argue with me...

btw, ignore these results, the card is power hoged unlike its higher tdp counter part.

[Dimitriman]

They've done several runs on it and it seems to hover around 17k even with proper 1600mhz full run.

https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%...nE&cuid=870217



not looking good... In fact, it really feels like this card was designed from the start to compete with GTX 1080 over one year ago, with a dual Vega to compete with GTX 1080Ti perhaps, but it was never launched due to HBM2. Now it is obviously too little too late.

[SinOfLiberty]

Where did you get the scores from?

17K is what it scores.

[Dimitriman]

More runs on Firestrike below:



https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/

[Dimitriman]

Where did you get the scores from?

17K is what it scores.

17k is the total score while I posted a picture of the GPU scores.

[SinOfLiberty]

The whole point is for people to wait till July.

[vario]

The whole point is for people to wait till July.

Point of what ?
It looks like were getting 300W 1080.
I mean. Theres not much to wait for.They will be all sold out to miners anyhow .

[StyM]

https://www.techpowerup.com/234737/a...ed-benchmarked

A lucky customer has already gotten his hands on one of these coveted, sky-powered AMD graphics cards, and is currently in the process of setting up his system. Given the absence of review samples from AMD to any outlet - a short Vega Frontier Edition supply ensured so - there isn't any other real way to get impressions on this graphics card. As such, we'll be borrowing Disqus' user #define posts as a way to cover live pics and performance measurements of this card. Expect this post to be updated as new developments arise.

After some glamour shots of the card were taken (which really are justified by its unique color scheme), #define mentioned the card's build quality. After having installed the driver package (which, as we've covered today, includes both a developer and gaming path inside the drivers, granting increased performance in both workloads depending on the enabled driver profile, he is now about to conduct some testing on SPECViewperf and 3DMark, with both gaming and non gaming profiles.

[SinOfLiberty]

Point of what ?
It looks like were getting 300W 1080.
I mean. Theres not much to wait for.They will be all sold out to miners anyhow .

As I said: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Vega-C...-Takt-1231795/

[Dimitriman]

I get the feeling many people really want to believe that this is not a gaming card and that drivers are bad and that something is hidden that will make this beat the 1080Ti at gaming soon.

But the reality is: 1-Since this is a Pro card, having bad drivers on launch day would be a disaster. Drivers are fine and they should be fine, especially for a $1200 pro card. 2- Memory and clocks might be slightly higher, but lets be honest with ourselves, the Gaming version of this card will not be a league above it, at best it will be 5-8% faster, and that is really being generous.

Even if its early drivers, early everything, if this card was truly a competitor to the 1080Ti, it would still score much closer to the 1080Ti than the vanilla 1080. And I am not even talking about power here, because we don't yet know the true consumption of this card, but I don't expect great things there either.

People can wait all they want, I'm quite convinced that once Vega RX Nova is launched, its going to be more of the same. But you can quote me on this if I am wrong

Really want AMD to compete well vs Nvidia but this was kinda depressing...

[Sparky]

It would surprise me if it was an amazing card. I'm not expecting that.

What I'm also not expecting is a 400W+ spec-breaking flamethrower of utter failure like someone else seems to insist it is going to be.

What I am expecting is a "too little too late" card that is OK for what it is, nothing exciting, nothing I'd be likely to buy.

[Dimitriman]

It would surprise me if it was an amazing card. I'm not expecting that.

What I'm also not expecting is a 400W+ spec-breaking flamethrower of utter failure like someone else seems to insist it is going to be.

What I am expecting is a "too little too late" card that is OK for what it is, nothing exciting, nothing I'd be likely to buy.

If you are referring to me I am really not saying that its an uter failure. But if anything this card is late. It is very late. Would have been an awesome 2016 product - faster than GTX 1080. But right now the only thing it will do is get AMD a spot on the enthusiast segment for about 6-8 months. AMD will unfortunately remain absent from the High End segment until late 2018.

In all honesty I would not spend over 500 USD on a card so Vega might even be an interesting purchase for me at the right price point. It's just not a good product for AMD since it will have to sell at that price point while packing expensive HBM2.

[vario]

As I said: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Vega-C...-Takt-1231795/

Ok, i went to the article, its written in schnitzel, i put it through google translate.

You mean this i presume " Vega drivers optimized for games will not be available until the release of the Radeon RX Vega graphics cards on July 30th."
Well, i say BS. There may be some small differences. But dont expect me to belive that after 2,5 years of development they need some 1 month quick fixes to FIX the performance.
So what is the point of gaming mode on frontier drivers ? Meh.
BTW, the dude that has the card and is testing it on his haswell, uses gaming mode.

[AliG]

Ok, i went to the article, its written in schnitzel, i put it through google translate.
.

[SinOfLiberty]

Whole point is people are discussing the wrong card. Or a card with limited properties. I have written info on 1st page already. To repeat:

RX Vega=Ti stock. That is what matters.

[vario]

Whole point is people are discussing the wrong card. Or a card with limited properties. I have written info on 1st page already. To repeat:

RX Vega=Ti stock. That is what matters.

Ah.But. You mean that a 375W card will be able to compete with Ti ?
I cant see AMD doing 375W on air i mean not without jet engine fans.
So in reality it would mean this card. 300W is pretty much max for usable air cooling.
AMD is a master in confusion.
Its like a RPG riddle which ends with them shooting themselves in the foot. Very confusing.
Theyre not gonna get good PR from this Frontier edition then.What, they thought that not sampling it to reviewers would stop the internet ?
At least in that way they could explain properly. Now its gonna be bashin time.

[SinOfLiberty]

Aftermarket coolers.

But it is more of an option a user can manually enable if the card can sustain such clock, depending on the config, ect..

In other words, it will just be there for you.

Actually, it is 400w.

[vario]

Aftermarket coolers.

But it is more of an option a user can manually enable if the card can sustain such clock, depending on the config, ect..

In other words, it will just be there for you,

I get it man. I have a Sapphire trixx 290X. It pushes 300W, maybe more with OC. It has a VERY solid air cooler. I cant fathom how big the cooler must be for another 100W.
I just dont think they can be quietish with this amount of heat.Ti pulls 250W. So a Rx480 more of power to be competetive.Gonna be hard to explain to folks they need almost half a kilowatt for their ONE gpu.
And thats with HBM2 power savings.

[SinOfLiberty]

See, that is what I have been bragging about in here, about how absurd the shиt got out of control.

It is more of a comedy series lol

[Levish]

I wouldn't get all agitated by that bench, if you waited this long to cross shop this with a 1080/1080ti you can probably hang on for another 3-4 weeks to see regular cards hit review sites. On the other hand if it was a highly competitive card I'm sure there would have been tons of "leaks" from the marketing / pr people like they did with Ryzen/Epyc.