[News] AMD to announce Vega tonight [Update: Vega Computex Announcement]

[SinOfLiberty]

I sure hope that's note remotely correct, RX in September would be pretty disastrous for the market.

What you mean?

[Tim]

What you mean?

I thought you were making a statement with your post? RX in September? Like you know it's coming in September?

[BenchZowner]

For our friend LordEC911

https://youtu.be/drbk91rZijI?t=11m58s

https://streamable.com/9p5fo

[vario]

For our friend LordEC911

https://youtu.be/drbk91rZijI?t=11m58s

https://streamable.com/9p5fo

Yeah, everything points to a card thats between 1080 an 1080ti performance wise and available late summer/september.
With base case scenarios maybe matching 1080ti.Good thing is we should know performance from FE cards.
People may be disappinted by it. But thats exactly the segment im looking to buy .Freesync, longer proper driver support, this HBCC may come in handy down the line.But inevitably volta will put more pressure in half a year or so.

[SinOfLiberty]

I thought you were making a statement with your post? RX in September? Like you know it's coming in September?

Yes. But, disaster on the market. Why did you write that?

[vario]

Yes. But, disaster on the market. Why did you write that?

People tend to exaggerate. For the past like 15 years im reading at least once a month that amd is finished and going to be bankrupt "soon".
Theres not gonna be any disaster because gaming cards are going to be 3 months late. Its not good. But certainly not a disaster.Moreover, even if they didnt sold a single vega 10 to gamers, but sold them only to HPC/PRO market with high margins. This wouldnt be even bad for them.And looking at cryptocurrencies getting a second push, they can be bought by miners, just like 480 580 now, and 290x before.
I would look closer into ryzen in terms how amd is doing, how well its being adopted by the bigger clients. First wave sold well to enthusiasts, but thats not the main market. AMD needs to get into server/hpc/mobile and bulk oem sales.

[Tim]

Yes. But, disaster on the market. Why did you write that?

No competition for a year and four months is certainly not good for the market. In terms of not putting out a competitive product to counter your direct competitor for that long is nothing short but disastrous.

People tend to exaggerate. For the past like 15 years im reading at least once a month that amd is finished and going to be bankrupt "soon".
Theres not gonna be any disaster because gaming cards are going to be 3 months late. Its not good. But certainly not a disaster.Moreover, even if they didnt sold a single vega 10 to gamers, but sold them only to HPC/PRO market with high margins. This wouldnt be even bad for them.And looking at cryptocurrencies getting a second push, they can be bought by miners, just like 480 580 now, and 290x before.
I would look closer into ryzen in terms how amd is doing, how well its being adopted by the bigger clients. First wave sold well to enthusiasts, but thats not the main market. AMD needs to get into server/hpc/mobile and bulk oem sales.

3 months late? Uhm, no. 1080 ruling the market place for a year and four months is nothing but a disaster on behalf of AMD. Of course it won't finish AMD, I'm not daft, but a gap this big has never happened since both companies started producing graphics cards in the mid nineties. That's 22 years of competition between the two camps. Still think I'm exaggerating?

Let's not even have a look at the release date of the Fury X, 24 June 2015, which was a poor card in itself, add the months up, you do the math!

[zanzabar]

3 months late? Uhm, no. 1080 ruling the market place for a year and four months is nothing but a disaster on behalf of AMD. Of course it won't finish AMD, I'm not daft, but a gap this big has never happened since both companies started producing graphics cards in the mid nineties. That's 22 years of competition between the two camps. Still think I'm exaggerating?

Let's not even have a look at the release date of the Fury X, 24 June 2015, which was a poor card in itself, add the months up, you do the math!

the fury pro is still technically the fastest card, that counts for amd sales domination, right

[vario]

No competition for a year and four months is certainly not good for the market. In terms of not putting out a competitive product to counter your direct competitor for that long is nothing short but disastrous.



3 months late? Uhm, no. 1080 ruling the market place for a year and four months is nothing but a disaster on behalf of AMD. Of course it won't finish AMD, I'm not daft, but a gap this big has never happened since both companies started producing graphics cards in the mid nineties. That's 22 years of competition between the two camps. Still think I'm exaggerating?

Let's not even have a look at the release date of the Fury X, 24 June 2015, which was a poor card in itself, add the months up, you do the math!

AMD/ATI not always had the big chip big card competition so its not really new. As for the amount of being late, im referring to official amd info , it was SUPPOSED to come out in december lat year, but only recently they announced official date that its before Q2 ends, and from that time to actual availability of gaming cards its gonna be round 3 months it looks. Yes, it SHOULD come out with 1080, but that was impossible with the decisions they made beforehand.
I dont think they were always competing in the same manner for the 22 years you mention, there were flops along the way.Fury maxx , 2900XT for example.
And given that biggest volta is gonna be 800mm2. Theres not gonna be single chip competition this or next year also.

[turbox997]

This just in:

Dr. Lisa Su, President & CEO at AMD
We’re very excited about Vega. Vega is a brand new architecture and actually has really the world’s most advanced memory architecture for GPUs. What we did announce at our analyst day was that the first shipping Vega will be the Frontier Edition which will ship with 16GB of memory and will ship towards the latter half of June. You will see the enthusiast gaming platform, the machine learning platform, the professional graphics platform very soon thereafter. And so we will be launching Vega across all of the market segments over the next couple of months.

source: http://wccftech.com/amd-ceo-gaming-r...ntier-edition/


A little more reassuring that they will have some hardware out apparently, if Lisa Su is to be believed or taken lightly, I don't know.

This can't come out soon enough guys.. I'm using a bunch of R9 Fury's and a Radeon Pro Duo (based on the R9 nano)... hardware is getting old, hot, and slow compared to the GTX 1080 Ti (tempted to get them, but not at the price they're asking... we need competition!). I'm also looking to upgrade to Vega if the product delivers on both price and performance.

[SinOfLiberty]

Not really.

Top card does offer high performance. It came pretty close to 1080 ti when was OC`ed. (Better than 1080 oc)

NV will surely counter it with allowing us to unlock TDP on pascal. Msi Lightning and KPE are already close to being released. (Serves as a hint)

And finally, Pascal cards at 1.25V are very powerfull and dont require extra cooling solutions.

[LordEC911]

For our friend LordEC911

https://youtu.be/drbk91rZijI?t=11m58s

https://streamable.com/9p5fo

I discuss things on a regular basis with the guy that runs AdoredTV... other than him correcting me about the number of ACEs on Fiji (it is 4ACEs btw), in which our discussion caused an email chain within AMD to get clarification since the Fiji block diagrams at launch differed from the ones at HotChips, I don't recall any other scenarios that had a similar ending.
He has limited contacts in the industry and much of his "analysis" is using his "logic" that has no track record, he changed his channel from gaming oriented to gaming hardware oriented about a year and a half ago. So you are going to have to do better than that, I have a decent amount of notches on my belt from much more notable hardware "journalists."

As for the JP Morgan clip, what about it? How does that disprove anything I have stated...
At this point, I have no idea what point you are trying to make other than attempting to troll me.

[BenchZowner]

Must be in denial

Anyway, I wait for Vega on the 1st week, max 2nd week of July, like you are implying

[EternityZX9]

...hardware is getting old, hot, and slow compared to the GTX 1080 Ti (tempted to get them, but not at the price they're asking... we need competition!)...

I must say I've really enjoyed playing Witcher 3 Wild Hunt at max settings on my EVGA 1080Ti SC2

[Sparky]

Ha, I'm still running a 7950...

[SinOfLiberty]

Why run homo GPUs?

Can buy Ti and set done! NV optimized it for consumers and a future proof 1440p card.

[Yeroon]

Why run homo GPUs?

Care to expand here?

Can buy Ti and set done! NV optimized it for consumers and a future proof 1440p card.

So, they optimized it for consumers, and AMD cards are not? How?
As for future proofing, GCN seems to fair better at nearly every step there, so again, please expand.

[turbox997]

I must say I've really enjoyed playing Witcher 3 Wild Hunt at max settings on my EVGA 1080Ti SC2

I'm sure it's great, haha.. But still can't get around the $700+ street price for it, it wins no doubt, there's nothing like it at it's price point, but that's what gets me. "There could be something else... something better... the price could be better!"

Here's to waiting for end of June to end of July for AMD to finally release something that can potentially make Nvidia at least drop the prices. Maybe* at $550 I'll consider the GTx1080 Ti's...

[bluestang]

Shhit, I just want there to be some decent priced and stocked RX 580s lol

[zanzabar]

Shhit, I just want there to be some decent priced and stocked RX 580s lol

i picked up a gaming x 480 4GB for $165 at frys when my 7950 died a couple months* ago. dont you guys have micro center out in ohio maybe they have some 480 left.

[bluestang]

Nice score!

Yep, no stock though. About an hour drive too otherwise​ I'd go to see what they have open box or not in the online system.

[EternityZX9]

I'm sure it's great, haha.. But still can't get around the $700+ street price for it, it wins no doubt, there's nothing like it at it's price point, but that's what gets me. "There could be something else... something better... the price could be better!"

See I've been caught up in the "waiting game" too. Problem is you're going to be waiting forever! Something new and better is always coming out. The current build I just made this month should last me 5 years - then I'll upgrade again. That's the cycle I'm on.

[SinOfLiberty]

Interesting. Nvidia, might soon introduce an Enthusiast "program" (like an option) for their GPUs. I have very vague details about it but it does sound like a very plausible addition to what NV has been up to lately.

Will see what happens after Computex. MSI is ready to release its Lightning Ti and they always work in collaboration with NV in regards to extreme gpus and its software.

[LordEC911]

I'd say late September AT BEST for consumer card availability ( and at what numbers ? )

LoL. At least you won't have to wait long to find out how wrong you are.

What the hell is going on with consumer Vega?! Still no news.

LoL. At least you won't have to wait long to find out how wrong you are.

Ugh just stop it man, you're worse then AMD. Every time with these 'I know more then you but I'm not saying anything' rubbish. Even Raja can't top your nonsense.

God, I'm sooo delusional and also spout such nonsense....

Feel free to post your apologies here.

[Tim]

God, I'm sooo delusional and also spout such nonsense....

Feel free to post your apologies here.

Why would I apologise?

I never said you are delusional, whether you are actually right or not doesn't matter, they way you go about it is just annoying, what is this, kindergarten? I know more then you but I won't tell you anything. So why post anything to begin with, you aren't contributing in any way?