http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57486/...ghz/index.html
that looks interesting , 32T @ 3.6ghz
AMD Confirms Their Threadripper Line-up
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57486/...ghz/index.html
that looks interesting , 32T @ 3.6ghz
AMD Confirms Their Threadripper Line-up
Last edited by StyM; 05-16-2017 at 03:57 PM.
this is crazy, but TDP could be around the 150-170W I think. Its a lot of die
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Thats just TWO zeppelin dies MCMed.
taking into account that with this clock, they could be 65W, this chip(package actually) actually may be in the same TDP as socket 2011 chips .
Also theres the rumour that x399 chips are going to be newer revision.
Might be interesting to see it battle out with skylake-X`s . We may theoretically even get decent prices on these.
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I find it odd that the 16 core CPU has higher clocks than the smaller variants, because usually a more powerful CPU with more cores would have less clock speeds in order to reduce the TDP, or am I missing something here. Also, I hope the memory issues will be fixed on this platform.
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they are engineering samples so they send out the highest clock then people get instructions for what potential skus would be if they are making something that needs a lower tdp. if you look at the 12core part it says alienware, so i would bet that is targeting a SFF or integrated device.
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R7 1700 is 65w @ 3.0base (but spends 99% of its time @ 3.2 all core) , and these are not top bin chips, So that 31/36 SKU should be easily doable @ 125-140w
Nah it just has to do with binning. Same issue as with the 8 core vs cutdown 6 core chips.
It's not about the power consumption per core; it's the fact the 12 core chips are assembled by gluing together 4 4-core units that failed transistor leakage requirements (and hence had 1 core disabled).
Full lineup leaked. It seems that after 14 years there will be true competition in the high end and maybe even the absolute performance crown will come back to AMD as well.
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The only problem I see here is that most consumer applications and games do not have the capabilities to utilize that many cores.
Anything above 6 cores is pretty much "useless" in most cases ( except video encoding & archiving, but even in video, going over 16 cores gives diminishing video quality & smaller performance increases ).
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Hmm..have here chess-engines that can use a few 1000cores if you want..still waiting
Like last Stockfish has max.threads setting from 512threads
option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 512
But this number you can put so high you want..or like asmFish is Numa-aware and you can put how many nodes it can use..
now it has a default max. from 32nodes/cpu's..so a MB with 32 sockets..where?
It goes to slow with number off cores! i hear this already from we had dual cores..then first chess program that was programmed to use more cores had max.2048cores in his settings but we go from 2cores to 4,6,8,10,12,14,16..32,64..and more..but still a long way to go..
AMD will finally come with a Desktop cpu with 16cores/32threads..i know Naples 32c/64t..it's coming..but 14years with these little steps..we should be 10times higher now..
Now i wait to see Intel i9-7920x 12c/24t against AMD Ryzen 9 Threadripper 1998x 16c/32t Chess/price performance..to see a nice gain in nodes/sec. so that i can make a nice upgrade from my i7 5960x
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Test results are always welcome with this Chess Test where all your cores/threads will run @100% ,Thanks
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You're not providing real-life examples however.
Yes, there are benchmarks ( mostly synthetic ) that can handle 1000 cores ( question is... where do they stop scaling ? have you done any testing yourself ? or are you one of those who recommend 12 core chips for Adobe After Effects ? [ which practically stops showing any gains at 6-7 cores... ] ).
Will a 16 core chip make your GAMING experience in Fritz for example any different than a 4.4GHz 7700K ? doubt it.
Except rendering apps ( which use your cores in rendering, not all the time ) and some specialized software ( and rarely used apps like 7-zip huge compressible folders ), the rest, common apps, most apps out there do not take advantage of 4 cores, not 16
I've got plenty of multi-cpu setups, I've tested a whole lot of software ( real-life and synthetic ) to know how many apps that see real life usage by people are out there capable of showing performance gains by core counts of >8 cores.
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I agree with BenchZOwner that for most people more than 4C/8T is unnecessary.
But, I think that's part of the Ryzen appeal. The architecture isn't perfect, but an R7 1700 is frankly a lot of overall value when you consider the total system cost (noting that AMD boards tend to be cheaper as well).
Yes i indeed do some tests ,thanks to a very nice person here on Xtremesystems i could do tests on a Xeon E7-8890 v4 96c\192t ,that's a 4-socket system..(11 month ago)
and later on i tested a longer time on a Xeon E5-2699 v4 2x22cores =44cores/88threads
And it's thanks to William we know that Numa was needed to let these engines run @100% with all cores & threads!!
And yes these where real life tests
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It makes a very big difference for chess..
If you have systems like that i can send you easy chess-engines and you can try out..
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You're not getting my point.
Running a chess test ( BENCHMARK ) is like running 3D Mark and saying "the GTX 1080 @ 1800MHz is a much better card for gaming than the GTX 1080 @ 1780MHz".
The chess test you are running ( which I assume is just another variation of the n-queens benchmark or a simple chess engine test with movement ops per second count ) is not real-life, meaning, if YOU PLAY a chess game vs your PC, you won't notice the difference between the 4* CPU system and the 1* CPU system.
It's like extreme overclocking with liquid nitrogen, fun, but with no real-life application/usage.
If you want numbers, give me a download link & directions and I'll do some test runs when I have some time available this week.
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Sorry..i'm testing engines for more then 20years for these chess-programmers
I call it bench as most people here don't even play chess
But it's a full working chess engine to play normal chess..okay you need a Gui but it works in console also..
If you play games with 1core against 4cores..1core loose badly
On my last 3 systems i pass the 300.000games using 5min.for each side..to get 100.000games takes around 5-6years
Ohh..i think i understand now..you checking this old bench test..forget it..like i said it's not a Bench-tool..it's a chess program-engine
You didn't tell me which systems you have..better then William's ?!
Then i know which version i give you..or i compile a new one if you have extreme much cores
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Test results are always welcome with this Chess Test where all your cores/threads will run @100% ,Thanks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5259523
Hi Buckeye.. i did ask here on forum..and i get some result from a 1800x..yes..not much,but it's a start..
You want i send them to you..
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Test results are always welcome with this Chess Test where all your cores/threads will run @100% ,Thanks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5259523
I think AMD's approach is like that Field of Dreams saying "If you build it, they will come".
Maybe in another 5 years developers will take full advantage of 16 cores / 32 threads but we have a long way to go before they are useful in more than a handful of things - especially in gaming.
But you have to start somewhere and this might as well be it.
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Last edited by StyM; 05-15-2017 at 07:29 AM.
it's already proven that ryzen beats intels HEDT on DC.
definitely those 16c/32t chip will be a monster on DC.
Making Intel release an i9 series is an epic win for the customer, thanks to AMD.
And the R9 series looks much more interesting than the i9... 16C/32T monster for HEDT
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