So, which board to get for Ryzen?

[sdlvx]

Nah they are all sold out according to my sources. Huge amount of sales...

I am glad to hear that, I grabbed Piledriver early and they had revisions to motherboards quickly.

[vario]

Ive since swapped to silicone based conformal, can't get that stuff off.
The urethane stuff was removable with extreme labor lol. But it would crack on direct ln2 spillage.
The silicone does not.
Of course I could just plastidip but not sure how that will hold up in like 4 hours cold conditions where board is an iceberg.
I imagine it would bubble up eventually.

BTW drmrlord.

gaming 7 is confirmed to have "turbo bclock" in less marketing terms a clock gen chip which will allow bclock adjustment.

availability unknown

I was reading through Stilts zen analysis/review on anandtech forums, and he claims cpu itself is capable of blck changes, just not as granular as a separate chip .
Any info on that ?
Also supposedly anything above 105mhz on bclk forces PCIe to gen 2 :/

[chew*]

Interesting. That sounds like a complication. No clue. Don't have access to the usual tools i have. He would know better than me at this point.

I literally had system dropped in my lap day i posted pic of box. As usual and the way i like it it came with no instruction manual. No how to.

Learn it from scratch get used to it then slam it. Still much i have not even touched upon ( board limitation). Im a quick self learner and when the silicon speaks to me i listen and observe. Right now it really is not complicated in the least bit.

What i lack in documentation is made up for in natural ability.

[drmrlordx]

I have confirmed with ASUS that the bricking is user error. It takes longer than expected users think its done power off. bricked. so do not kill the power if it does this, let it do its thing walk away go smoke a butt grab a coffee or something.

Makes sense. Though I am wary of any automatic BIOS updating.

I pre-ordered Fatal1ty Pro on March 2nd, it has finally shipped today. I think they do not have enough stock to take any more orders. I noticed they stopped taking pre-orders, I am hoping it's because of too much demand and not because they found problems and need to release a v2 so soon.

Figures. I wasn't watching for the ASRock boards back then. At that point I naively expected Amazon to ship my C6H. So I guess I'll just ride out with Amazon and get my C6H . . . whenever.

Also interesting: The Gaming 7 seems to have disappeared from NewEgg? I thought it was going to be available today, and now it's just gone from their product listing. No entry whatsoever.

[Sly Fox]

Having not built a new rig since 2011 (Sandy Bridge), my memory fails me: Has there ever been a major CPU launch like this where decent motherboards are just completely unavailable?

I hate to think this way, but I do start wondering if Intel has used their "unique" relationship with mobo manufacturers to influence things in some shady way.

But I'm probably just being paranoid.

[chew*]

Makes sense. Though I am wary of any automatic BIOS updating.

I actually watched a video so now I'm a tad skeptical. No freaking clue.

[bowman]

With memory frequency being so important for performance, do any of the boards offer high multipliers for memory overclocking?

[chew*]

I think 32 is max of the cpu design, I could be wrong.

[bowman]

I hope not. I really don't want to mess around with the base clock, that's just asking for gremlins.

[chew*]

So it may seem. Guess need to test 3d for performance.

[robbicfc]

Interesting ref the shortage of boards. Makes you think back to the Asus white boxed deliveries back in the K7 days. I have decided holding off for a couple of months before sampling Ryzen. Main reason being that I want an AM4 Sabertooth , not as flashy as a Crosshair, not as capable in ultimate OCs but near enough the same power delivery system just the tuning capabilities dialled back a notch or two. Will he pairing with a Seasonic Prime 750W, a Ryzen 1700 under water and a Vega GPU.
@chew, I find it very believable that users are borking their own boards due to impatience with BIOS updates, instant gratification
Nb - If EK come out with a block for Crosshair then it takes primary position.

[chew*]

I was reading through Stilts zen analysis/review on anandtech forums, and he claims cpu itself is capable of blck changes, just not as granular as a separate chip .
Any info on that ?
Also supposedly anything above 105mhz on bclk forces PCIe to gen 2 :/

Ok I read the thread to see the why for gen2

Honestly gen 2 is not a concern in xfire i run x8 anyway.

What is concerning however is that pci is connected not seperate from ref clock like it has been in the past.

What can this cause...well graphical errors for starters but that usually is not the biggest issue. Thats like really high pci

Raising pci has been a 3d tweak for quite some time however to much is bad thing.

The biggest issue of all has been and always will be hard drive corruption. In the past i have used IDE. This is why. They are more resillient to higher pci.

I have no clue how sata ssds will respond to this but i do know older sata mechanicals did not like it...not one bit.

Data corruption can happen...worst case you can completely brick a drive. I have done it quite a few times ide included...

[drmrlordx]

It's confirmed, I'm getting the C6H.

Amazon burned through their 3/9/2017 allocation of boards and still didn't ship mine. So I cancelled that order and paid a scalper on eBay to ship me a board. It's supposedly going to get here next Tuesday. Which kind of sucks but at least I know I'm getting a board now.

I wish someone had been selling the Taichi instead.

[drmrlordx]

Or so I thought? Someone put the Taichi up on eBay so I impulse-grabbed it. I may do a return on that C6H. Taichi is available on Amazon on the 14th (allegedly) and the Egg is selling the C6H so we'll see what happens.

Taichi could be here Saturday. Maybe I'll get you guys those Taichi results after all . . .

[vario]

Or so I thought? Someone put the Taichi up on eBay so I impulse-grabbed it. I may do a return on that C6H. Taichi is available on Amazon on the 14th (allegedly) and the Egg is selling the C6H so we'll see what happens.

Taichi could be here Saturday. Maybe I'll get you guys those Taichi results after all . . .

Check Bclk, mem divs, bios options, overall stability, and is it powerful enough to drive 4.0-4.1 stably with ryzen

[drmrlordx]

Will do. Board may not get in 'til Monday and I'm being worked to death but I'll do my best. Any recommendations on getting UEFI screenshots, assuming there's no built-in utility to dump them to USB or something? I have a crappy flipphone with a bad camera . . .

Also no X370 Taichi on Amazon. I was mistaken. Z270 Taichi keeps coming up on AM4 searches grr whatever, eBay saved the day.

[mele]

Newegg has Hero now.

Should I hit the order button?

[mele]

All gone....

[chew*]

Been reading manuals and spec sheets all night.

Msi offers no ref clock feature on any of there boards.
The carbon and tomahawk both claim support for pc3200 but....only hynix based ic is qvl @ 3200

Asrock taichi and the top fatality board have ref clock. Be careful the other x370 fatality k4 does not ( but it has the solder pad for it located below first pci slot )and also only supports 2933 oc officially.

Gigabyte gaming 7 lists turbo blck and pc3200+. We already know pc3200 works on gaming 5.

Asus rog obviously both bclk and high memory support 3200+. Asus prime specs do not iirc 2666 was highest supported.

Biostar 2666 no ref clock all boards.

Very limited options it seems at this point in time.

[I.nfraR.ed]

Yes, overall I've identified 4 boards with ref clock adjustment support. The same you already wrote.
Hero, Taichi and top Fatal1ty (same PCB layout as Taichi), Giga K7 - that's it for now.

[chew*]

Looks like maybe i should mail nick.

(Budget bclk board)

fatality k4 seems it shares the top end boards pcb and uses 6+6 pwm.
Edit actually upon closer inspection its not. No clue what the pad is for then? Maybe the killer boards have something there.

[chew*]

Ok this is where it gets really interesting.

Many of the B350 boards out spec the memory qualification and qvl compatibility of some x370 boards.

Perfect example of this is the fatality gaming x370 k4 @2933 vs the fatality B350 @ 3200.

[charged3800z24]

Ok this is where it gets really interesting.

Many of the B350 boards out spec the memory qualification and qvl compatibility of some x370 boards.

Perfect example of this is the fatality gaming x370 k4 @2933 vs the fatality B350 @ 3200.

Same with the MSI B350 Tomahawk

[chew*]

Yep confirmed

Asus prime b350 plus
Msi tomahawk
Asrock fatality

[Lightman]

Keep it up guys, learning a ton in here!

I will be swapping to AM4 in the next couple of weeks, when boards come back in stock, but wanted ref. clock adjustments.
For now my choice is narrowed down to Giga K7 or AsRock Taichi.
Any pros and cons to both?
I'm going for 1700X as plan on keeping power saving + XFR ON but clock it up a bit with bus (if possible, as I also seen that the chip will drop multi with higher ref. clock) for day to day. Cooling will be some good AIO or semi custom water and targeting RAM 3000MHz+.