So, which board to get for Ryzen?

[drmrlordx]

Right now it appears that:

Asus C6H is hard to get, and has issues with UEFI/microcode

Gigabyte Gaming 5 has weak PWM/is prone to overheating, but is getting better performance than some other boards (notably c6h) due to mature UEFI/microcode or . . . ? Also, has no external clock generator.

ASRock Taichi has stronger VRM setup than anyone(maybe?), but may not have the same RAM support via multipliers as the C6H (ASRock now advertises up to DDR4-3200). Definitely DOES have an external clock generator. It may be that RAM settings outside of DDR4-2400 are irrelevant thanks to the benefits of bclk OC.

My Amazon pre-order has resulted in a chip arriving tomorrow while my board is completely MIA. Unknown ship date etc.

So am I going to regret cancelling my order with Amazon and getting a Taichi somewhere else? I had really wanted the whole RoG experience, but Amazon did not come through. Near as I can tell, it will be the board available the soonest, and it costs so little that I can overnight it and still save money.

Or should I even consider the MSI board? It seems overpriced, and I have my doubts . . .

[Sly Fox]

I'm wondering the same thing.

Have had the CHVI Hero on order since 02/22, and Amazon has still yet to provide an estimate. 1800x arrives this Tuesday (thanks, Amazon.... better late than never I guess).

[vario]

Point A , is Taichi seems to have everything you need and more.
Point B is i didnt see it in any review .
I myself am very happy with my current asrock, and other ones i used, also their support is good.I will not be getting asus , because i had so many problems with their support that i hope they die .
I would be very happy if you would get asrock tai chi because you could test it for us

[Ket]

I might see if I can get a Asrock X370 board or two for review, but I won't be doing so for a couple weeks most likely as I have 3 other reviews to do first. Gaming 5 board I get is going to be a retail version so will be able to clear any questions up about that.

[chew*]

16 phase digital(8+8 or 4+4+4+4?) on taichi but only 8 pin in. For water air that 8 pin should suffice. I know ive heard over 200w pulled so far probably never hit 300 on air/water.

Ln2 guys probably going to want more input power.

My Rog experience happens every day post missing usb devices m4e p67 still to this day. Have to kill psu flip on and they come back.

Theres like a forum that was dedicated to solving that issue....never fixxed

Other than that going 5 years strong...but that one problem is preety sad for a top tier product

[techtrancer]

taichi Has 12+4
Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has also 12+4

[chew*]

Unless the fatality has some godlike feature taichi doesn't have i wont put anything fatality branded in my pc. Branding costs money that costs us money

[techtrancer]

Thats Right

[drmrlordx]

Point A , is Taichi seems to have everything you need and more.
Point B is i didnt see it in any review .
I myself am very happy with my current asrock, and other ones i used, also their support is good.I will not be getting asus , because i had so many problems with their support that i hope they die .
I would be very happy if you would get asrock tai chi because you could test it for us

At this rate it's gonna be the Taichi. Sadly I will be at work (read: away from teh Intarwebz) until like 6:30 AM EST Tomorrow, and I know that's the earliest I can get that board. But if they don't run out of stock I am gonna cancel my order for the C6H with Amazon and get one. I do not want to wait another 1-2 weeks just for my C6H to ship!

I mean sorry Asus but why does Amazon gotta do me like that?!?

Even if I do get the Taichi, it'll take me awhile to build and test because I'm currently pulling over 130 hours of work per biweekly period. Last 2-week check was for 134 hours. Personal life? What's that?

I'm wondering the same thing.

Have had the CHVI Hero on order since 02/22, and Amazon has still yet to provide an estimate. 1800x arrives this Tuesday (thanks, Amazon.... better late than never I guess).

Same boat, though I got my CPU here earlier (later today) by ing at some reps in chat. Didn't budge the board ship date though. Grr.

16 phase digital(8+8 or 4+4+4+4?) on taichi but only 8 pin in. For water air that 8 pin should suffice. I know ive heard over 200w pulled so far probably never hit 300 on air/water.

Ln2 guys probably going to want more input power.

Good point. ASRock claims 300w+ power draw support at the socket, but . . . yeah. Anyways I doubt I'll hit that on air/water, which will be my limit.

My Rog experience happens every day post missing usb devices m4e p67 still to this day. Have to kill psu flip on and they come back.

Theres like a forum that was dedicated to solving that issue....never fixxed

Other than that going 5 years strong...but that one problem is preety sad for a top tier product

Ha ha! Ouch. Kinda.

taichi Has 12+4
Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has also 12+4

Does the Fatal1ty board have an external clockgen? I know ASRock's X370 Killer - which I could get today - has no such thing. So not buyin that one.

Unless the fatality has some godlike feature taichi doesn't have i wont put anything fatality branded in my pc. Branding costs money that costs us money

Yup. Maybe if it were the Jim Keller Edition I would think otherwise.

[techtrancer]

Dont know

Here you can find some other informations abaut AM4 MB
But page is in German and list is new and Not yet complete

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...l#post25344552

[chew*]

Im skeptical of 12+4 also. Iirc 6 phase is biggest real actual phase unless something changed in my absence. Redundant 6 is realistic. 6+6+4.

Not that it is a bad thing mind you. We are actually thinking of going taichi. Still debating. May need two boards or possibly 3.

Ln2 is a factor here for us. My prep ruins boards however..air they run hot afterwards so may need an air/water testbed and phase/ln2 testbed

[techtrancer]

Please make some pictures from the taichi without the onboard cooling If you buy one

[HTC]

Should OP get the TaiChi, i'll definitely pay close attention to this topic since that's the board i'm trying to get but, for now, it's not even available in Portugal

Am just wondering if it comes with drivers for windows 7 because that's a big factor in me deciding to go ahead with a Ryzen system purchase.

[chew*]

apparently there are drivers they do work, official response is unsupported however.

[ZenEffect]

Im skeptical of 12+4 also. Iirc 6 phase is biggest real actual phase unless something changed in my absence. Redundant 6 is realistic. 6+6+4.

Not that it is a bad thing mind you. We are actually thinking of going taichi. Still debating. May need two boards or possibly 3.

Ln2 is a factor here for us. My prep ruins boards however..air they run hot afterwards so may need an air/water testbed and phase/ln2 testbed

ruins? no. I cleaned up our moa board. giant pain in the @$$ but it was doable... to what degree though who knows as that board was garbage from day 1 lol.

[chew*]

ruins? no. I cleaned up our moa board. giant pain in the @$$ but it was doable... to what degree though who knows as that board was garbage from day 1 lol.

Ive since swapped to silicone based conformal, can't get that stuff off.
The urethane stuff was removable with extreme labor lol. But it would crack on direct ln2 spillage.
The silicone does not.
Of course I could just plastidip but not sure how that will hold up in like 4 hours cold conditions where board is an iceberg.
I imagine it would bubble up eventually.

BTW drmrlord.

gaming 7 is confirmed to have "turbo bclock" in less marketing terms a clock gen chip which will allow bclock adjustment.

availability unknown

[drmrlordx]

So NewEgg was supposed to have both the Taichi and X370 Fatal1ty Professional in stock today

Mysteriously the availability date (3/7/2017) disappeared sometime this morning (only got home at 6:30 AM EST) and there is no sign of them selling it yet.

I talked to a chat rep. They said they hadn't sold any today, but they were really . . . touchy on the subject of discussing stock levels, or exactly when it would go on sale.

My guess is they took a delivery a few days ago, prepared for shipment, and fulfilled a bunch of pre-orders. So I can not buy either ASRock board as of this posting. I'm going to continue to monitor the situation up to the point that I have to leave for work in about an hour.

Meanwhile Amazon is finally threatening to ship my C6H on the 9th. I am conflicted.

edit: I also set up auto-notify with NewEgg. It never triggered today. So . . . I don't know what the deal was with that.

BTW drmrlord.

gaming 7 is confirmed to have "turbo bclock" in less marketing terms a clock gen chip which will allow bclock adjustment.

availability unknown

Yeah I had heard about the Gaming 7 getting that feature. If it's the same PWM as on the Gaming 5 though, I am . . . skeptical as to whether or not I'd want it. Gigabyte seems to have one of the most robust UEFIs among the X370 boards thus far, though, so that is a plus for them. NewEgg claims to have stock on the 8th.

[chew*]

Yeah I had heard about the Gaming 7 getting that feature. If it's the same PWM as on the Gaming 5 though, I am . . . skeptical as to whether or not I'd want it. Gigabyte seems to have one of the most robust UEFIs among the X370 boards thus far, though, so that is a plus for them. NewEgg claims to have stock on the 8th.

I don't know about robust but I am trying to get stuff I feel needs to be added in options. Simple stuff like the ability to disable all onboard items, Ethernet sound usb etc etc. currently as sits if you have a external sound card you want to use you would have to disable the onboard in device manager. option to do so is missing in bios. trying to get common sense stuff sorted before we get fancy if they even can or will.

I played around with the asus rog board at microcenter on display. way more into that bios than the gigabyte has currently. It also had some ram issues.......3000 ram could not do 3000. Pretty sure it was probably not qvl. chip was doing 4.1 ( stable they claimed ) with reasonable voltage ( less than I need for 4.0 ).

[Charles Wirth]

On the Asus I had to adjust ref clock to 102.x to get 3000 to work

[chew*]

yah I did not want to screw with there display unit to much but I did nosy around in bios.

[drmrlordx]

The Egg did not come through. 4:15 PM EST and still no Taichi or Fatal1ty for sale, so . . . they probably burned their stock on pre-orders. Sorry, you'll have to find someone who had better luck getting one of those boards, since it looks like the only way I'll get X370 to my door is to let Amazon ship my C6H on the 9th. Sure hope it doesn't brick itself.

[chew*]

The Egg did not come through. 4:15 PM EST and still no Taichi or Fatal1ty for sale, so . . . they probably burned their stock on pre-orders. Sorry, you'll have to find someone who had better luck getting one of those boards, since it looks like the only way I'll get X370 to my door is to let Amazon ship my C6H on the 9th. Sure hope it doesn't brick itself.

I have confirmed with ASUS that the bricking is user error. It takes longer than expected users think its done power off. bricked. so do not kill the power if it does this, let it do its thing walk away go smoke a butt grab a coffee or something.

[sdlvx]

So NewEgg was supposed to have both the Taichi and X370 Fatal1ty Professional in stock today

Mysteriously the availability date (3/7/2017) disappeared sometime this morning (only got home at 6:30 AM EST) and there is no sign of them selling it yet.

I talked to a chat rep. They said they hadn't sold any today, but they were really . . . touchy on the subject of discussing stock levels, or exactly when it would go on sale.

My guess is they took a delivery a few days ago, prepared for shipment, and fulfilled a bunch of pre-orders. So I can not buy either ASRock board as of this posting. I'm going to continue to monitor the situation up to the point that I have to leave for work in about an hour.

Meanwhile Amazon is finally threatening to ship my C6H on the 9th. I am conflicted.

edit: I also set up auto-notify with NewEgg. It never triggered today. So . . . I don't know what the deal was with that.



Yeah I had heard about the Gaming 7 getting that feature. If it's the same PWM as on the Gaming 5 though, I am . . . skeptical as to whether or not I'd want it. Gigabyte seems to have one of the most robust UEFIs among the X370 boards thus far, though, so that is a plus for them. NewEgg claims to have stock on the 8th.

I pre-ordered Fatal1ty Pro on March 2nd, it has finally shipped today. I think they do not have enough stock to take any more orders. I noticed they stopped taking pre-orders, I am hoping it's because of too much demand and not because they found problems and need to release a v2 so soon.

[chew*]

Nah they are all sold out according to my sources. Huge amount of sales...

[HTC]

apparently there are drivers they do work, official response is unsupported however.

Thank you: i know it's "officially" unsupported, which is why i didn't know if it came with the drivers or not.

Definitely the board i'm aiming for but ... not available in my country ... SUCKS