Ryzen - Return of the Jedi

[VietOZ]

I was just joking try to get your ryzen on the team for a week
Just for those crunching guys out there who curious what Ryzen can do.
I can't speak for other projects, but on WCG the 1700 at Stock can produce about the same number with the xeon E5-2683 V3 14C/28T @ 2.3ghz turbo.
Which is about 17k - 22k Boinc points per day depending on the project you run and the OS you run. Linux is better.

[techtrancer]

@chew

Have you Test 16x nuclearus with your stable Settings too?

[chew*]

Not yet lots of stuff to do only 1 person. Key importance is IMC must be stressed not everything does that. Heat alone that just stresses core is what it is.

Updated gigabyte motherboard info. Mostly pointed out certain voltages what they do and how to set them.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5254425

[22JHP]

are you kidding me?

i've used stilt's bulldozer conditioner for superpi but your score(8.36) is amazing.i wonder ddr4 effects on this test?my poor ddr3 1600.

[chew*]

I figure if I can get XP in tune OS like the below was tuned it will be 50% faster than llano which was the fastest cpc AMD chip prior to Ryzen and my favorite AMD chip until now.

This was not a best run but it was in a tuned OS

[chew*]

New bug found. when overclocked swapping hardrives around it won't boot from any until you clear cmos.

[lowdog]

New bug found. when overclocked swapping hardrives around it won't boot from any until you clear cmos.

Lol yes bugs galore with bios, I'm having equal fun with the MSI Titanium with a plethora of debug codes after trying different hardware and bios setting......lol not that bad really lot of cmos clearing going on though

Can get my 1700 to 3.9GHz with 1.320Vcore and NB 1.1V with LLC - 4 stable now. Can do Corsair Vengeance LXP 3200 rams 2 x 8GB @ 2933MHz and Corsair Vengeance LED 3000 rams 2 x 16GB @ 2666MHz so far and that's it!!.......has a squeal about it a bootup with six long beeps but runs fine after that. More fun to be had.

VRM gets hot running Prime need to put a fan on heatsink when stressing it but in games and for general use with these settings VRM shouldn't break a sweat

[techtrancer]

@Chew

X370 Taichi & Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has IR35201 (6x6+2x2) CSD 87350

Https://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...l#post25381113

[chew*]

@Chew

X370 Taichi & Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has IR35201 (6x6+2x2) CSD 87350

Https://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...l#post25381113

Told you no such thing as 12 or 16 or 8 phase



Had a feeling it was 6+6

Asrock told me only difference between taichi and fatality is audio. Fatality boards audio is better quality = more expensive

[techtrancer]

ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero Extreme Overclocking Guide (Updated to v0.4)

http://overclocking.guide/asus-rog-c...locking-guide/

High REFCLK is fine with most devices. Above ~105 MHz you need to drop to PCI-E Gen 2 which lowers your bandwidth slightly, but very few devices drop in actual performance.

Best performance with Samsung B-die is achieved at 145 MHz REFCLK with 2400 DRAM ratio (3480 MHz) at 11-10-10-10-22 timings. Alternatively 135 MHz REFCLK with 2666 DRAM ratio and 11-11-11-11-22 timings. This depends on the CPU/MB/DRAM capability."

[chew*]

Yah thats not much of a concern...dropping to gen 2 in xfire,sli however devices may not like pci...and corrupt data and or break.

In the past like very distant past i found the nvidia cards more resillient to higher pci then Ati cards. No clue what the current cards can tolerate however.

If you recall in order to clock high on bloomfield (i7 920) it required pci around 115.

So there is a happy balance that might be had for 24/7 usage vs just shear benching.

Luckily i bought a stack of hardrives i can kill to find out

[Ket]

Chew, you'll want to look in on the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 5 review I'm doing. Just been able to add the first lot of benchmarks, there is a extremely bad memory latency bug. I'm not talking about people complaining about 100-80ns depending on the memory speed, I'm talking well over 300ns that absolutely demolishes the performance of any application that leans on the memory system. By all means tell Gigabyte they can contact me and I will help them iron out all of the UEFI issues I'm finding.

[I.nfraR.ed]

Finally managed to recover my account, thanks to @FUGGER.
Glad to see AMD section getting active again.

Personally I got CH6H and two CPUs: 1700 and 1800X. The higher binned one is definitely hotter than the 1700, but clocks better.
The supplied Wraith Spire box cooler is quite nice, though.
Still haven't managed to boot 3600MHz, max for now is 3440 CAS12. Board works quite nice with Samsung B-Die chips, 3200MHz is not a problem.

As for the PCI-E, I have a proven combo - 8500GT and ADATA SSD which are tested numerous times for speeds at 145+ MHz PCI-E.
Generally any Nvidia 8xxx card should be fine. Don't know about newer ones.



PS: 11-11-11 should work too, or even 11-10-10. Just like in the Asus guide. Tested this in a little lower speed and had no improvement in aida, however I haven't measured this with any other application.

PS2: Some fun fact. I had Win7 x64 installed on the Z270 (Asus Apex) and it also has AsMedia controller, so drivers were there.
Connected the SSD to the Hero and it booted. Plugged keyboard and mouse in the black USB ports, the OS automatically installed the drivers and voila - I had a working system.

[FlanK3r]

Chew*: U slept in Carizzo time, quickets AMD CPU before Ryzen 32M around 12min at 4 GHz

[chew*]

Chew*: U slept in Carizzo time

I was not sleeping. I was expanding my knowledge of the force

[chew*]

Finally managed to recover my account, thanks to @FUGGER.
Glad to see AMD section getting active again.

Personally I got CH6H and two CPUs: 1700 and 1800X. The higher binned one is definitely hotter than the 1700, but clocks better.
The supplied Wraith Spire box cooler is quite nice, though.
Still haven't managed to boot 3600MHz, max for now is 3440 CAS12. Board works quite nice with Samsung B-Die chips, 3200MHz is not a problem.

As for the PCI-E, I have a proven combo - 8500GT and ADATA SSD which are tested numerous times for speeds at 145+ MHz PCI-E.
Generally any Nvidia 8xxx card should be fine. Don't know about newer ones.



PS: 11-11-11 should work too, or even 11-10-10. Just like in the Asus guide. Tested this in a little lower speed and had no improvement in aida, however I haven't measured this with any other application.

Thx for the confirmation on nvidia card. Once learned its hard to forget old tricks.

Stilt said he ran into an issue on an m2 card. I got an old ssd that i dont care about and craigslist is my friend for older junk vgas

Nice to see you again btw.

I need to verify uber stress stability once i have access to a board with ref clock.

[chew*]

Chew, you'll want to look in on the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 5 review I'm doing. Just been able to add the first lot of benchmarks, there is a extremely bad memory latency bug. I'm not talking about people complaining about 100-80ns depending on the memory speed, I'm talking well over 300ns that absolutely demolishes the performance of any application that leans on the memory system. By all means tell Gigabyte they can contact me and I will help them iron out all of the UEFI issues I'm finding.

Preety much memory and all timings we have acess to currently is controlled by gigabyte, asus, msi, asrock and the rest.

The ability to load xmp and works from one board and not in another is vendor support for the most part. Of course pay attention to qvl.

The rest is locked down via agesa code. Vendors do not have access.

Think of it like this. 2 bios. One is vendor one is AMD.

If you have to power off system completely and clear cmos to solve a problem....its likely agesa related and effects all vendors.

Example getting SMT back after testing smt disabled requires a hard power off.

Ive talked to quite a few vendors. Now at this point I just talk to another and have them verify they experience same issue.

If so then reporting issue to vendor X and chasing down a ghost bug is pointless as it is not in the board but the agesa

Very aware but hands tied.

If you run ito an issue try to hard clear with power off.

AMD is working on it and aware.

[robbicfc]

Some of the MB manufacturers are kicking off MB manufacturers kicking off a little

[Ket]

Of course I'm aware of the QVL, the memory being used in the review system should be compatible at least to a large degree it's F4-3200C15D-16GVK which AFAIK is Samsung ICs. I'll have to forego a detailed look at anything UEFI and overclocking related as the Gaming 5, along with pretty much any other AM4 board I've looked at / tested, just isn't ready. AMD and mainboard manufacturers are both kinda passing the blame to each other. I tend to look at things as mainboard manufacturers knew AM4 was coming but instead of putting the time in to it they should of, they were focusing on intel Z270 boards instead.

[chew*]

I'm just pointing out there are multiple factors at play. If you read other end user reports many can not even do spd. Nor could they in reviews.

I appear to be one of the luckier ones and have been able to get 3 sets running just fine at spd so it seems just from my point of view that its not all bad on the gaming 5 board.

I'll throw some stuff up in a little bit with 3 diff sets all quite different ICs.

[Ket]

I know, I'm not being moody just saying The conclusion when I actually get to it at this rate is going to be the longest conclusion I've ever written without a doubt.

[chew*]

I ran a bunch but not these particular tests before I wrote review.

recommending wrong memory timings/speeds to my fellow members would not be cool.

I just ran this off once on the gskill stock ( need them not broken yet for reliable testing )

Memory tuning and overclocking on the gigabyte has been hassle free for me, board does well no complaints there. My complaint is 5 timings. All boards have this problem ( Agesa )

And then I went off grid out of spec with the corsairs. Providing they are a set that is qvl I find they are very responsive to tuning although seems that odd Cas latency is out of wack right now even manual or xmp setting 15 applies to C16 in windows. This is new in F5c so ill look into it.

I saw no latency out of wack if I was "stable"

Heres some quick tests albeit software may not report correctly on ryzen to compare vs others the scaling on ryzen with different settings should be accurate when comparing ryzen to ryzen

Gskill XMP


Corsair XMP


These are really really budget sticks AMD sent for reviewers. The fact that I can do anything with them is well preety impressive.

Corsair default speed tighter


Corsair tight and low

[metal409]

Been lurking this thread and appreciate all the info and testing going on. I have a dumb question, does Gigabyte plan to add a bios option for disabling the onboard audio on the ax370 gaming 5 or is it not possible because of the dual codecs?

[chew*]

Been lurking this thread and appreciate all the info and testing going on. I have a dumb question, does Gigabyte plan to add a bios option for disabling the onboard audio on the ax370 gaming 5 or is it not possible because of the dual codecs?

I have requested the ability to disable all onboard devices for various reasons. some may want an external sound card.

Some may want to OC and play around ( if it had ref clock high pci could potentially break stuff )

The ability to shut off devices while not in use has benefits in many applications.

Preety much all vendors should be doing this, I'm not sure if they are or if they can yet.

[chew*]

Testing suspended till i get another board.

Died at stock with xmp after a shutdown to swap hard drives. No clue if took hardware with it. Hit power button and it freaked out.

Power switch immediately just shuts back off after a second.

Posts to bios still if power button is held down but port 80 is blank...pulsing my power supply when nothing is installed in the board.

Spins fury x fan when power supply is switched on but board is not on.

Pulled all hardware out not risking it.

Pending further investigation.

Off to work.

Will dig out my dmm later when get home to verify it was not psu.

Fwiw the thermaltake 1200 is freaking out if i plug it in also.