[News] Intel Core i7-8700K Put Through Cinebench R15

[StyM]

https://www.techpowerup.com/236962/i...-cinebench-r15

Intel's upcoming Core i7-8700K six-core mainstream desktop processor was put through Cinebench R15, where it was seen trading blows with much higher high-end desktop (HEDT) processors, thanks to its core-count and relatively high clock speeds. Unlike HEDT processors, the i7-8700K doesn't carry a bulky uncore, keeping its TDP low at 95W, enabling high clock speeds. This reflects in its single-threaded performance, where it was significantly faster than older chips, some of which are even HEDT, but since the "Coffee Lake" architecture is essentially a refresh of the "Kaby Lake" architecture, the chip could lose out on single-threaded performance to the Core i7-7700K on account of slightly lower clock speeds.

The multi-threaded test is where the action is. Bolstered by two more cores, four more threads, and 4 MB more L3 cache, the i7-8700K is proportionately faster than the quad-core chips it succeeds, and is even faster than older 6-core HEDT chips thanks to higher clock speeds, and a newer micro-architecture. The i7-8700K features 6 cores, 12 threads enabled by HyperThreading, Intel's newest Turbo Boost Max 3.0 technology introduced with its Core X family, and 12 MB of L3 cache. It launches on the 5th of October, at an expected price of around USD $380, if not more.

[AliG]

If the 8700k directly replaces the 7700k in price, it'll be the first good value CPU Intel has made in years.

I'd even take a slight premium. Just none of the nonsense pricing that was Broadwell-E. Ryzen may not keep in gaming, but it's really hard to turn down a 1700 when you also factor in the motherboard is cheaper.

[vario]

If the 8700k directly replaces the 7700k in price, it'll be the first good value CPU Intel has made in years.

I'd even take a slight premium. Just none of the nonsense pricing that was Broadwell-E. Ryzen may not keep in gaming, but it's really hard to turn down a 1700 when you also factor in the motherboard is cheaper.

I dont know. Its "good" as in, not as bad as previous ones.You need new mainboard , the Z one, not cheap, its not soldered.Its just a reaction type cpu.It only shows how much of a ripoff kabylake was.
I bought 5820K 3 years ago for pretty much the same price.And that, a 6 core at good price i was considering a good value.But that was 3 years ago.
And now we are getting essentialy the same cpu +5% ipc (maybe, because of the smaller L3 and less memory channels its not that sure) for like 20$ less but no solder ?
Yes, it will probably clock higher, BUT im pretty sure only if you will delid it.
This cpus arent good or great, they are THE LEAST intel could do.And thats exactly mow much they are doing,absolute minimum.

[Andi64]

I totally agree with vario.

It's the least Intel could do. I also have a 5820K @ 4500Mhz, since day 1. It's hard to see any value "upgrading" to a processor of the same price. Bought a 6C/12T at U$S390 3 years ago. I'd like to go back to AMD, but even a 1700 is hard to see as an upgrade.

[StAndrew]

I'm still running a X980. Maybe its time to upgrade. Ryzen for me

[Kain665]

I still run an I7 870 @ 4ghz since 2010 and frankly nothing has made me pause and think "Huh, I could really use a more powerful CPU right now".

[Buckeye]

Its not so much the CPU these days, its the features new motherboards bring to the table that pushes me to upgrade.
At least for me.

[Kain665]

Its not so much the CPU these days, its the features new motherboards bring to the table that pushes me to upgrade.
At least for me.

Out of curiosity, what features specifically? I've had the thought before, but I haven't run into anything I haven't been able to work around. My 980Ti runs fine in a 2.0 x8 slot, don't get any noticeable performance issues in the games I play. For Bluetooth I use a USB adapter. For wireless I have a broadcom AC chip in a PCIe x1 slot. For my SATA3 SSDs, I use an HBA. I don't use NVMe, though I guess if I did it would be limited to a x4 2.0 AIC slot.

What do new motherboards these days give you that you can't do with some auxiliary hardware on an older platform?

[xlink]

Out of curiosity, what features specifically? I've had the thought before, but I haven't run into anything I haven't been able to work around. My 980Ti runs fine in a 2.0 x8 slot, don't get any noticeable performance issues in the games I play. For Bluetooth I use a USB adapter. For wireless I have a broadcom AC chip in a PCIe x1 slot. For my SATA3 SSDs, I use an HBA. I don't use NVMe, though I guess if I did it would be limited to a x4 2.0 AIC slot.

What do new motherboards these days give you that you can't do with some auxiliary hardware on an older platform?

bootable m.2

That's about it though.

[chew*]

Meh i still rock my 2600k...nothing has been worth it to me on the intel front since.

To "upgrade" requires me to downgrade. I gain m2...lose rog connect ( rc bluetooth ). I can solve m2 problem with an ssd adapter plugged into sata if it really mattered.

I also lose full win 7 support.

[SADS]

I tend to agree as well, i mostly use my machine for games and this trend of 'throw in more cores' isn't really giving much reason to consider any upgrades.

Having gone from a 2600k to a 5820k... then to a 7700k, i probably could have gotten away with staying on the 5820k (curse that performance strive), as the upgrade and effort of selling off the old parts was probably not worth it.

Aside from the mass of cores now being thrown at us, which I don't see as being too useful, It doesn't feel like performance has greatly improved.

I'm probably overlooking the bigger picture of "A lot of people are now doing things with video more and there's business/power users etc etc" but for average Joe and gamers, which are probably not the main Intel market(?), I don't see the leaps.

[FlanK3r]

I think, this is not the final score (maybe) Because turboboost 2.0 working at higher clocks than 3700 MHz. Or old CPU-Z in video dont show turbo clocks

[adamsleath]

well...some games like more actual cores ...like bf1, which would benefit from a 6 core highly clocked killer of a chip. i havent looked into the more recent games that are very beautiful almost photorealistic graphics to know which ones like multithreads...

dont know how high the 8700k will clock with decent watercooling. <5ghz i guess.

well yeh wish i had a 5820k. ...so 8700k is a small fraction better than 5820k?

i like the igpu feature too.