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    If its not working with it connected you're connecting to the wrong spot probably.

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    I tripple checked the spots. Even with a DMM. When i read the vdimm voltage it says about 3.3V but the board just won't boot.

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    hehehe

    post ur modded board pic..

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    mmm... if you connected like the pic it should work...
    please compare also your points with the red-dot-pic here.

    ... or possibly you have an switched vrm onboard like this epox ?
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...010#post441010

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    that red dot plz make it clearer... i cant see emm

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    Originally posted by tictac
    that red dot plz make it clearer... i cant see emm
    really ... ... i will try.

    using here an tft eizo L365 on dvi... any pixel is perfect clear.
    and i upload the pic in gif, jpg killed the red color so much.

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    so, here the pic with bigger points...
    hopefully better reading now.
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    Last edited by Rio71; 07-10-2004 at 08:37 AM.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
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    ok thanx...

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    measure the point without it connected, should reflect what you have vdimm set to in bios +/- .1v

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    Originally posted by HKPolice
    Plz post update for IS7!!
    oh'man, sorry for the long time to update.
    i have changed my mainrig and have now back again the is7-e for playing.

    here the pics.
    first pic is like the others, one of the three wire is enough for working, but more is better.
    no opening, cutting, desoldering, simply connect...

    pic #2 is vtt mod.
    is functional-similar like ic7 ...
    the blue marked tracer must be cutted between the both ends of resistor.
    check again if the tracer truly open.
    scratch blank the tracer and solder resistor on it, 5 or 10 ohm.
    gray wires going to top side and connected to an vr 200 ohm.




    Last edited by Rio71; 07-09-2004 at 10:12 PM.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    I have some questions about this mod witch i couldn’t find an answer to in this topic.

    1. Do you need to solder a wire to each dimm slot or do all the dimm slots get raised voltage if you solder it to 1 ?
    2. Can you still measure the vdimm at pin7 even if you dint use that pin for soldering ( you probably can but i just want to be sure).
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    1. Do you need to solder a wire to each dimm slot or do all the dimm slots get raised voltage if you solder it to 1 ?
    2. Can you still measure the vdimm at pin7 even if you dint use that pin for soldering ( you probably can but i just want to be sure).
    have your board particular dimm-vrm for each dimm-slot ?...
    yes, all vdimm points raised...
    i connect to this red-marked pin(s), which i can easyer connect... lots of choice

    all the marked pins should (original) be connected together and with pin7 too --> all vdimm.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    i edited the red-dot-pic again.
    add pin7.
    all red-dots are also contact blades like pin7 on upper side.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    RIO figured it out and measured 3.44V in PIN7, but no startup then.... May be som kind of OVP?
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    mmm... or you killed the board before.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    Nope it starts up without problems if I remove the mod.

    Btw. its a Asus A8V s. 939 mobo...
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    is it possible that some mobos have overvolt protection of some kind ?
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    I did the mod on my shuttle AN35N and it worked great.
    The only thing im "worried" about is that it doesnt track the vtt right on witch pin of the mem socket can u measure the vtt?
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    Jalmir - many that limit to 2.9v or less have OVP, especially the latest Asus 939 boards.

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    Hi guys...
    Lot of good info in this thread...will help a lot of ppl reticent modding is own hardware.
    Anyone here already tried the mod on a p4c800???
    I made the normal vdimm in LM chip but i would like to test the mod that way to see if there's any difference...
    Thks in advance m8's.


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    Jalmir - many that limit to 2.9v or less have OVP, especially the latest Asus 939 boards.
    oh, this is'nt good news.
    but... how it works ?
    you can try make the wires longer and connect it together after post is complete.
    (but try this not with running win, memtest86 is saver if crashed or unstable...)
    ... i mean, the ovp is also "away-modable"... should..


    p4c800, i think is like the p4p800, whats the big difference between board to board..

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    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    I did the mod on my shuttle AN35N and it worked great.
    The only thing im "worried" about is that it doesnt track the vtt right on witch pin of the mem socket can u measure the vtt?
    no pin for vtt. vtt is the memorybus termination. 0.5 x vdimm

    you can find lots of little 4er resistor-arrays around the dimm-socket.
    one side of the arrays are all connectet together with a bigger trace.
    this is the vtt and measurepoint (to ground).
    Last edited by Rio71; 07-12-2004 at 06:47 AM.

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    Originally posted by STEvil
    Jalmir - many that limit to 2.9v or less have OVP, especially the latest Asus 939 boards.


    sorry for my lack of knowledge ... I realy don't know what OVP means ... found a lot of Office of Voluntary Programs on google tho!
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    ... and here the pic..
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    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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    Talking

    ...OverVoltageProtection

    - projekt seti-bench @ c4m under 2:00 ::: c4m 2500@3??? ::: 3.0E test'test... :-)
    - P4 2.4B @ 3300 IHS off :: 1,70V mod PAL8942 :: 4x256MB BH-5 DDR460 2-2-2-5-inf-64µs :: P4P800-Dlx
    R 8500 @ 295/295--> DVI --> EIZO 15" TFT :: Hitachi 180GXP :: HEC-300LR-PT :: 98SE/XP
    - C4m2000 @ 3350 :: 1,70V :: 36°C/51°C mod-Kühler :: DDR441 2-2-2-5 :: IS7-E :: IHS off
    - C4m1500 @ 3000 :: 1,7V MCX4000 + TMD :: DDR400 2-2-2-5-infinite-64µs :: 4GEA :: IHS off
    - PIII-S 1400 @ 1660 :: 1,45V :: 36°C/40°C/mod Volcano6cu :: TUSL2-C (Mod) (Bios@Mad) :: IHS on :: Bench
    - Laptop PIII 700@700 (100FSB/440BX) :: 256MB :: 18Gig Toshiba :: 4MB ATI :: 14,1" TFT :: Win98SE
    * Footnote: 90% of all computer problems can you find between chair and keyboard. ;-)

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