Ryzen 1700 hits 4 GHz on AIO water - Overclockers UK

[AliG]

Per Gibbo at Overclockers UK:

But we just tested a 1700, it hit 4.0GHz stable in everything, but ONLY in the Crosshair mainboard, the lower-end boards it was hovering around 3.80GHz as the VRM's were cooking with extra voltage. It however was maxing around 4050MHz, so I'd say 1700 can do 3.9-4.1GHz, of course the 1800X will probably do 4.1-4.3 as no doubt better binned, but if your clocking the motherboard has a big impact on the overclock and so far Asus Crosshair and Asrock Taichi seem the best two.

240mm AIO cooler, made by Asetek with two fans on it. This was a retail 1700, not engineering sample! A bad 1700 might only do 3.8-3.9 and a good one might do 4.0-4.1, but only in top-end boards like Crosshair and Taichi.

Memory wise we had best success with Crosshair which just about does 3000MHz, no other board has achieved over 2666 stable yet.

Though 8 Pack is yet to play, this is just our quick testing, 8 Pack shall start playing in coming weeks.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/th...#post-30533567

Looks like both my suspicions are coming true:
1) Their binning process is voltage leakage based (you'll need a bit of juice to drive the 1700 up)
2) Ryzen is already binned to squeeze out a lot of the clocks, not too much overclocking headroom above 4 GHz

On the brightside, this means motherboards matter again lol.

[xlink]

I'm going to wait ~2-3 months for things to sort themselves out.

Have fun being an early adopter. I'll be using a low to mid end motherboard and a 1700 that clocks higher than today's 1800x chips.

[StAndrew]

As I predicted, good performer, poor overclocker. I think AMD will have a follow up launch in the not so distant future with optimizations to the silicon and hopfully the 14nm process, if not a 10nm or 7nm shrink...

From what I see, this isn't a peformance ground breaker. The big deal with Ryzen is its value. I'm going to forgo upgrading for now as the only processor that offers better value than the Ryzen right now is my free i7 980X ().

I might entertain a Re-Ryzen though

[AliG]

As I predicted, good performer, poor overclocker. I think AMD will have a follow up launch in the not so distant future with optimizations to the silicon and hopfully the 14nm process, if not a 10nm or 7nm shrink...

From what I see, this isn't a peformance ground breaker. The big deal with Ryzen is its value. I'm going to forgo upgrading for now as the only processor that offers better value than the Ryzen right now is my free i7 980X ().

I might entertain a Re-Ryzen though

Upgrade value is all relative.

Given how much you spent on that 980X, it makes sense to hold onto it a little longer unless if you really need more cores. However, many of us are still running old quadcores; being able to get something faster than the 980X for only $300 does seem very appealing (even if the overclocking is limited).

[StAndrew]

Upgrade value is all relative.

Given how much you spent on that 980X, it makes sense to hold onto it a little longer unless if you really need more cores. However, many of us are still running old quadcores; being able to get something faster than the 980X for only $300 does seem very appealing (even if the overclocking is limited).

Paid $150 for the 980x

Only $150 for the three 780TI's with waterblocks

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[AliG]

Paid $150 for the 980x

Only $150 for the three 780TI's with waterblocks

Computer retailers hate me! Click HERE to find out how!

lol you forgot to change your profile picture to that of a clueless girl

[StAndrew]

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Only 4 gig on water? And other boards suck cant go over 3.8? Only 3000 ram. This all sounds sort of like it was either posted weeks ago or not done by an experienced overclocker. Hell even asus posted 3400 ram on twitter.

[StAndrew]

Only 4 gig on water? And other boards suck cant go over 3.8? Only 3000 ram. This all sounds sort of like it was either posted weeks ago or not done by an experienced overclocker. Hell even asus posted 3400 ram on twitter.

I think part of it might be getting to know a new platform, part of it might be the motherboard - VRM's (it IS a 95W processor however I wonder how much room they manufactued into their design for overclocking ), but I'm sure most of it is probably a buggy bios. In another thread, a reviewer hinted that the bios may not be as mature as he would like it.

[chew*]

I plugged in the kit on the reviwers board loaded xmp with ram provided booted stable...its 3000 ram. Its not a taichi or crosshair.

Whats there to get to know. 2 options? Xmp enabled disabled lol.

[madmaxx]

Not worried 1 bit. Being a new CPU/platform and all. I'm reminded of the athlon/64 days, when AMD was competing with generaly lower clocks/OC headroom. Their RAM efficiency was incredible, CAS 2 & 250mhz + for the first time was something i don't think i'll forget

I plugged in the kit on the reviwers board loaded xmp with ram provided booted stable...its 3000 ram. Its not a taichi or crosshair.

Whats there to get to know. 2 options? Xmp enabled disabled lol.

The test kits include an Aorus board right? Their QVL list doesn't even go over 2400/2666 right now IIRC. The definite BIOS updates that are coming will remedy.

[chew*]

Not worried 1 bit. Being a new CPU/platform and all. I'm reminded of the athlon/64 days, when AMD was competing with generaly lower clocks/OC headroom. Their RAM efficiency was incredible, CAS 2 & 250mhz + for the first time was something i don't think i'll forget



The test kits include an Aorus board right? Their QVL list doesn't even go over 2400/2666 right now IIRC. The definite BIOS updates that are coming will remedy.

Where are you getting your info from?

On gigabytes website the qvl goes up to 3200 on the g5 and the corsairs in reviewers kit are clearly qvl at 3000 right down to the exact model #. This did not just happen its been up for nearly a week now.

http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/G...10#support-doc

I can confirm xmp works not on a special bios but F3 official publically available bios.

Not trying to be a jerk but please get your facts straight before you write something.

[vario]

Only 4 gig on water? And other boards suck cant go over 3.8? Only 3000 ram. This all sounds sort of like it was either posted weeks ago or not done by an experienced overclocker. Hell even asus posted 3400 ram on twitter.

Well , i read the thread, if i remember correctly he just put the stuff together with bioses that came with the boards. That may have something to do with it.
Or maybe the chip was a dud, this happens.Remember when i bought my duron 600 and it went to 1050 without much effort, i started building other duron systems for my friends and they were all like ~900mhz.
I like what youre saying tho :-D

[chew*]

I can't comment on much so I will comment on overclocking. Overclocking is achieved by cooling components. If you have a component that has sub par cooling or runs hot this is not rocket science. Put a fan on it.

When you write up your report be honest and make note of what was required to achieve X.

[madmaxx]

Where are you getting your info from?

On gigabytes website the qvl goes up to 3200 on the g5 and the corsairs in reviewers kit are clearly qvl at 3000 right down to the exact model #. This did not just happen its been up for nearly a week now.

http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/G...10#support-doc

I can confirm xmp works not on a special bios but F3 official publically available bios.

Not trying to be a jerk but please get your facts straight before you write something.

Be chill bro, thanks for the update! I never said it was or presented it as fact, i said if i remember correctly.

[AbortRetryFail?]

Jeez, guys. You want some cheese with your whines?
Ryzen 1700 is a 65w 8/16 chip with a 3GHz base clock. On a new node. With a new chipset/platform.

-----> Likely being clocked by someone who has not had an AMD CPU in 10 years

Hitting 4GHz (presumably on all cores), even on a high-$ mobo with fancy cooling, seems to me a [air quotes] low budget [/air quotes] 65w 8/16 Ryzen would be fun to play with ...

I suspect an enterprising AMD guy might clock it even higher with 4 cores disabled (depending on this BIOS thing with the new AOD)

[FlanK3r]

Only 4 gig on water? And other boards suck cant go over 3.8? Only 3000 ram. This all sounds sort of like it was either posted weeks ago or not done by an experienced overclocker. Hell even asus posted 3400 ram on twitter.

And will be more my friend, I had interview with ROG HQ ,-)

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And will be more my friend, I had interview with ROG HQ ,-)

3400 is pointless right now...3600 is not.

[xlink]

So from the looks of things Ryzen is probably going to be around 5% slower per clock overall than an i7 and clock around 10% slower than an i7 with an equal number of cores.... but Ryzen will have 2x the cores.

15% slower in lightly threaded apps, 25% faster in multithreaded apps AND competitive pricing vs an intel product with 2 fewer cores....

I call this a winner.

Still need to wait for tomorrow's release but this is BETTER than I had expected. This'll more than double the performance over my 3570k without any real single threaded performance hits.

Now we just need to wait for the memory kinks to get worked out. It'll happen soon enough.

[Ket]

Possibly a lemon CPU, but a lot of this looks like someone still becoming familiar with the platform and / or lots of immaturity still with UEFIs. I already have plans in place to make sure VRMs stay nice and cool being a stickler for good thermodynamics so there won't be anything getting toasty. Its just going to be a pain in the arse having to review things with stock components before hitting things proper. I'll stick my neck out right now and say 4.2 - 4.3GHz will be the average OC for 1700s, probably 1700X as well, albeit probably with lower voltage, once theres some maturity to the platform. Either way things are looking promising I'd say. 4.5 - 4.8GHz would look to be doable and even 4.2 - 4.3GHz certainly isn't anything to sniff at for a Octa-core.

[chew*]

Your way off. Like in another dimension.

Facts we know. Reports of 4gig.

Facts we know ln2 5.2-5.3 experienced players one of them being sammi has worked with amd closely for a long time.

Your gonna just come in and whip out 4.8 on agressive coolling and show them whats what on a board that has reported to clock less and have weak Vrm section.

gl

[Andi64]

Some people have unrealistic overclocking expectations for Ryzen, IMHO.

Intels 8 core CPUs do 4.3/4.4Ghz average. Less than 10% were hitting 4.5Ghz if I'm not mistaken.

Why does everyone looks at Kaby Lake for reference? Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake... all of them did what.. 4.5-4.8Ghz on average for a 4C/8T CPU?

[chew*]

Agreed. I look at ln2 results temps and break it down.

Reports 4.0 normal air/water 5.3 ln2. 1300 mhz gap puts dry ice @ the sort of middle temp range. Making 4550-4750 realistic dry ice temp range.

[Metroid]

Some people have unrealistic overclocking expectations for Ryzen, IMHO.

Intels 8 core CPUs do 4.3/4.4Ghz average. Less than 10% were hitting 4.5Ghz if I'm not mistaken.

Why does everyone looks at Kaby Lake for reference? Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake... all of them did what.. 4.5-4.8Ghz on average for a 4C/8T CPU?

I agree with you here, reason why I only want a review 8 cores AMD x 8 cores Intel at same frequency.

by the way,

AMD’s most affordable Ryzen 7 part, the $329 1700, is a force to be reckoned with when overclocked if these benchmarks are anything to go by. Whats more, this 65W part is said to be a decent overclocker, reaching 4.0GHz on the boxed stock Wraith cooling unit that comes with it.

This leak comes via a user on the Baidu Chinese forums who has managed to get his hands on a retail 1700 boxed unit before the official launch of the Ryzen 7 series tomorrow. But as always, take this leak like any other with a healthy dose of salt.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700...hmarks-leaked/

This is the one I will probably buy, XFR is just another gimmick, although lets see what reviews will say about it today.

4.0ghz 1.34v.