[News/Rumor] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 2080 Ti could lead GTX 20 series

[StyM]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54285/...ies/index.html



if those prices are true...

[Levish]

whats wrong with those prices?

[EternityZX9]

I know it's just speculation...but c'mon! Nope. Not going to happen. I mean they really are low balling performance gains here.

When's the last time nvidia released a successor of a video card and there was only 15% to 20% performance jump from the previous generation?

I can't recall one in recent history.

[AliG]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54285/...ies/index.html

if those prices are true...

IMO that's where the GP104 cards should have launched at ($350/$500).

I know it's just speculation...but c'mon! Nope. Not going to happen. I mean they really are low balling performance gains here.

When's the last time nvidia released a successor of a video card and there was only 15% to 20% performance jump from the previous generation?

I can't recall one in recent history.

Nvidia does minor tweaks all the time. Think back to the 8800 -> 9800, 480 -> 580, and 680 -> 780 transitions.

In general, I really wouldn't be too disappointed by 20% increase for an 8% decrease in price. I think it's the starting point of the Pascal cards that makes me want to respond with a farting sound instead. Having said that, I'm sure Vega's performance will determine Nvidia's response more than anything.

[iboomalot]

Some of the cards the only real upgrade is faster memory thus a small increase in speeds.

But 20% faster for -8% price is better since IMO NV is over priced but AMD is late to the party thus NV can price the cards higher and people will buy.

[zanzabar]

Some of the cards the only real upgrade is faster memory thus a small increase in speeds.

But 20% faster for -8% price is better since IMO NV is over priced but AMD is late to the party thus NV can price the cards higher and people will buy.

if they are still gp10x it would give them a chance to relaunch next year instead of cutting prices.

[EternityZX9]

Nvidia does minor tweaks all the time. Think back to the 8800 -> 9800, 480 -> 580, and 680 -> 780 transitions.

But by the time the next generation of cards come out it will be 5 years since the 680 and 4 years since the 780. I don't know maybe it's just me, even if it is speculation, I still find the thought baffling based on history since then. I don't "buy" that nvidia would just all of a sudden settle for releasing a new card with only a 15% to 20% jump in performance. I mean this is not Intel we are talking about here where 10% to 20% IPC jumps are the norm.

[zanzabar]

But by the time the next generation of cards come out it will be 5 years since the 680 and 4 years since the 780. I don't know maybe it's just me, even if it is speculation, I still find the thought baffling based on history since then. I don't "buy" that nvidia would just all of a sudden settle for releasing a new card with only a 15% to 20% jump in performance. I mean this is not Intel we are talking about here where 10% to 20% IPC jumps are the norm.

they did that basically every time there was no die shrink. the 9xx/7xx was the strange ones since they brought back the high end chips (the xx0 gpus that were moved to tesla only) instead of a new generation since tsmc delayed a shirnk for the 7xx, then for the 9xx tsmc was 3-4 years delayed on getting their die shrink so they ported a new arch to a node it was not intended for.

the midrange 7xx was even just a rebadge of the 104 part like this is looking like.

[StAndrew]

Some of the cards the only real upgrade is faster memory thus a small increase in speeds.

But 20% faster for -8% price is better since IMO NV is over priced but AMD is late to the party thus NV can price the cards higher and people will buy.

Its just a die shrink, probably to increase yields and profit. No need for any major investments into performance when your competition is still catching up.

[AliG]

But by the time the next generation of cards come out it will be 5 years since the 680 and 4 years since the 780. I don't know maybe it's just me, even if it is speculation, I still find the thought baffling based on history since then. I don't "buy" that nvidia would just all of a sudden settle for releasing a new card with only a 15% to 20% jump in performance. I mean this is not Intel we are talking about here where 10% to 20% IPC jumps are the norm.

So 2 things:
1) The 1080 is literally head and shoulders better than the 680. The 980 had about double the fps of the 680, and the 1080 is around 75% better than that. Not even in the same stratosphere.
2) Intel has really slowed down their innovation due to physical material limits. I don't recall seeing a 20% IPC increase a long time (perhaps Sandybridge was close?).

[Levish]

imo the 680 was more of a equivalent to the 560/570 of the previous gen same with the 1080 and by that I mean, itty bitty chip replacing previous BIG ARSE chip.

There's no other options and your customer base is used to paying that much for that performance level, why not ?

[AliG]

imo the 680 was more of a equivalent to the 560/570 of the previous gen same with the 1080 and by that I mean, itty bitty chip replacing previous BIG ARSE chip.

There's no other options and your customer base is used to paying that much for that performance level, why not ?

I dunno about that, the 680 was quite a bit faster than the 580. *But* In fairness, it was originally intended to be the 660 until AMD underwhelmed with the 7970.

[Tenknics]

I can't see Nvidia refreshing pascal, especially this fast. Problems with Volta?

[zanzabar]

I can't see Nvidia refreshing pascal, especially this fast. Problems with Volta?

it says 10x still not 11x so it could just be for higher stock clocks or a higher thermal limit update. volta still has to wait for TSMC so why would they not go for a higher clocked relaunch next spring.

[Darakian]

I can't see Nvidia refreshing pascal, especially this fast. Problems with Volta?

I think they'd wait if there were problems with volta as they'd have a longer gap to fill.

[Cold Fussion]

I can't see Nvidia refreshing pascal, especially this fast. Problems with Volta?

If Vega turns out to be super sick then might. They've shown in the past they're willing to rebadge products as new.

[kromosto]

titan x as 2080ti with more clock... thats what i just want to see.

[kromosto]

If Vega turns out to be super sick then might. They've shown in the past they're willing to rebadge products as new.

Its said that VEGA is targeting 1080 and 1080ti. When we use Amdish to English translator it means "We will catch 1060 at best".

[Tim]

I can't see Nvidia refreshing pascal, especially this fast. Problems with Volta?

I can see it happening, don't think we've even begin to see what Pascal can do, and I'm sure nVidia is confident they can take on whatever AMD comes out with. Then rinse and repeat with Volta. Been going on like this for a while now. Gotta be one pleasant position to be in as a company.