AMD Zen FX - information, benchmarks, experience of users

[FlanK3r]

AM4 Asus board (not final look of course)

[Utroz]

FlanK3r I hope you are planning on posting some Bristol Ridge overclocking till you can get a 8C16T Summit Ridge chip. I am also kinda interested on how Raven Ridge will overclock compared to Summit Ridge.

[tbone8ty]

need some new Amd goodies soon!

[drmrlordx]

DIY AM4 systems should become available this month.

[tbone8ty]

looking forward to a new Asus Crosshair Formula Am4 board for ZEN

[FlanK3r]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20161003PD200.html

Following the releases of its Bristol Ridge-based desktop processors in September 2016, AMD's Zen-based CPUs and its corresponding high-end X370 chipsets will make their arrivals at CES 2017 in January. To achieve a smooth transition, AMD has begun adjusting product prices in order to accelerate inventory digestion. However, since Zen-based products are unlikely to start mass shipments until after February, they are unlikely to start contributing profits until the second quarter 2017, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

Sources from motherboard players also noted that AMD's performance has started to improve since early 2016. In addition to stable income from its semi-custom solutions, CEO Lisa Su has also been pushing for more profits in China by licensing its patents, selling its testing and packaging plants, and forming joint ventures.

AMD's Polaris-based GPUs have also helped the company to raise its market share in the discrete graphics card market. AMD's market share rose 4.8pp sequentially to reach 34.2% in the second quarter, according to the sources citing Mercury Research.

However, since Polaris-based GPUs focus mainly on providing a high price-performance ratio, AMD's gross margins from the GPU sector are still far weaker than Nvidia's and the situation is unlikely to improve until AMD's next-generation Vega-based GPUs to hit the market in 2017.

Zen-based processors will be manufactured on Globalfoundries' 14nm FinFET process, featuring an eight-core-16-thread design. AMD will initially release Zen-based high-performance desktop processors (Summit Ridge), while one for notebooks is scheduled to launch at the end of second-quarter 2017.

The high-end X370 chipsets will be launched at CES 2017, while mainstream B350 and low-end A320 will be unveiled later. X370-based motherboards will begin shipments in December.

ASMedia, which is designing and manufacturing chipsets for AMD's processors, is also expected to see rising revenues with the releases of the new CPUs.

[tbone8ty]

I hope these new zen chips overclock well

[FlanK3r]

We will see, but Im sure 8c/16t will be not so easy to OC, because more threads=more issues for really high OC of all cores

[trueblue]

If the X370 motherboards will be available in Dec, and the budget chips available later, does this mean NO am4 boards and no Bristol Ridge chips to tide us over till Zen?

This is a change from what has been reported previously.

[drmrlordx]

X370 isn't until January or so. Think CES.

Who told you there would be no DIY AM4 in October? OEM AM4 is already for sales in stores.

[tbone8ty]

more bristol ridge and am4 mobo pics please!

[lismo]

Strange to see the NB actually housing inside the CPU and no longer on the motherboard.

[drmrlordx]

Eh? AMD has been putting the NB on the CPU since . . . Phenom I?

[BeepBeep2]

Eh? AMD has been putting the NB on the CPU since . . . Phenom I?

FM1 / Llano.

AFAIK AM4 pushes even more onto the CPU die than in past?

[trueblue]

X370 isn't until January or so. Think CES.

Who told you there would be no DIY AM4 in October? OEM AM4 is already for sales in stores.

From the digitimes article,
"The high-end X370 chipsets will be launched at CES 2017, while mainstream B350 and low-end A320 will be unveiled later. X370-based motherboards will begin shipments in December."

If the mainstream chipsets will be unveiled after X370 at CES 2017, then I don't see how DIY AM4 will be available in October. It is already mid-October and I have yet to see any AM4 boards in retail.

Maybe unveiling occurs after shipping product...kinda like mail order brides..LOL

[drmrlordx]

That's backwards, B350 was supposed to be out in DIY form before X370, not afterwards. B350 is for Bristol Ridge which is already shipping to OEMs.

Also I'm sure AMD has been putting the NB on the CPU die well before Llano, since all my AM3 chips had the NB on-die. What they are integrating into the CPU/APU die now, at least on Bristol Ridge, is most of what's left of the SouthBridge.

[tbone8ty]

Man we seriously need some more Zen leaks. I feel like it's taking forever. I won't hold.my breathe though.

[haylui]

Man we seriously need some more Zen leaks. I feel like it's taking forever. I won't hold.my breathe though.

http://m.expreview.com/50232.html

IPC is not higher than skylake and frequency now is able to go up to 3.6GHz

[tbone8ty]

http://blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks

zen or naples?

[BeepBeep2]

http://blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks

zen or naples?

Hard to say if that is an 8 or 16 core part, it's in the mix with 10 core intel Ivy Bridge class parts.

[drmrlordx]

If it's the 8-core Summit Ridge then it looks quite good. If not then . . . well who knows, we don't know the clockspeeds for any Summit Ridge or Naples parts for sure anyway.

[vario]

http://m.expreview.com/50232.html

IPC is not higher than skylake and frequency now is able to go up to 3.6GHz

IPC of haswell would be already OK, but it needs to go higher mhz wise, 3,6 is a default clock or the max oc one ?

[AbortRetryFail?]

Improved Blender benchies look good for AMD. That's a good thing, especially if watt-envelops are competitive.

Seems to me Blender has never really scaled fer sheet, anyway, on AMD cores/threads -- they've been backin' up since the ol' Opty 2/4P wonder days

[drmrlordx]

Someone pointed out that the above-linked blenchmark Blender scores were recorded under Windows Server 2008, meaning it is 99.999% probable that the scores were not taken on a Zeppelin-based machine. That wasn't Zen, whatever it was.

edit: that someone was probably The Stilt, or someone quoted/paraphrased by The Stilt. It was not I regardless.

[trueblue]

Well, according to my calendar October is gone. No AM4 boards at any retail sites. I was wanting to try Bristol Ridge until Zen comes out.

If they keep delaying the boards that won't be an option, as it would make more sense to wait for Zen (January?).

Surely AMD marketing is not stupid enough to miss Black Friday sales, etc. It is beginning to look like it.