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  1. 10-19-2016, 09:41 AM #1
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    [News] Seagate's new $85 5TB hard drive is actually affordable

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    While the past few months have seen an escalating arms race to build the world?s largest solid state drive, magnetic disk-based hard drives are still the cheapest option for computers looking for the most bytes for their buck.

    And Seagate?s new 5TB BarraCuda ST5000 hard drive is the largest 2.5-inch hard drive yet, although it isn?t going to be going toe-to-toe with something like the 60TB SSD when it comes to space.
    Unfortunately, while the BarraCuda ST5000 is a 2.5-inch drive, it?s also 15mm thick, which makes it primarily an option for desktops. Fortunately, Seagate also announced the BarraCuda ST2000LM015, which has a smaller 7mm thick casing used by the majority of today's laptops, but tops out at a comparatively paltry 2TB of storage.

    However, while SSDs may offer larger storage sizes and higher speeds, Seagate?s new hard drives definitely win out on price. The 5TB BarraCuda ST5000 will cost $85, while the laptop-sized 2TB BarraCuda ST2000LM015 will cost $55. (For comparison, the largest 7mm, 2.5-inch SSD available to consumers is Samsung?s 4TB 850 EVO for $1,499.99.) No release dates for the hard drives have been announced.

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  2. 10-19-2016, 11:37 AM #2
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    Hm, for my new desktop PC build I want to do eventually that might work really nice for the bulk storage drive.
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    After Seagate's track record over the last fifteen years, I can't say I would be eager to trust anything important to a new model no matter what the price.
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    I've generally not had much issue with their drives, to be honest. I've probably seen about the same percentage of Seagate and WD drives die in my experience (thankfully none of them have been mine). I have a Samsung F1 1TB as my main storage drive now, and I thought a secondary storage drive was a Seagate, but realized the ST500DM005 is just a relabeled Samsung F3 drive.

    If Seagate has been using Samsung's HDD tech then they should be better than they had been, as Samsung drives have been generally solid in my experience.

    Anything important I'm going to have backed up on an additional drive anyway (likely my external).
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    it is still only $170 for a raid 1 of thees and they are 2.5" double thick so they will easily fit in one 3.5" bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I've generally not had much issue with their drives, to be honest.
    This model could be an as-yet unknown breakout hit in terms of reliability. I'm just wary of it being new and unknown for the time being given Seagate's hit-and-miss job with drive lines through the years. Prudence is warranted here. Time will tell how it turns out.
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    Great price, but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pool.
    I also feel if you're going raid 1, you're essentially asking for %200 fail rate, instead of the likely 100%... (yeah I know, 100% isn't correct but still...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEOAethyr View Post
    Great price, but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pool.
    I also feel if you're going raid 1, you're essentially asking for %200 fail rate, instead of the likely 100%... (yeah I know, 100% isn't correct but still...)
    raid 1 is mirrored, that way if one dies you are still ok. are you thinking raid 0, that one you loose everything if one fails?
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    Would make for a great internal backup drive in a space constrained case. Something like the Fractal Define S5 with loads of WC gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    it is still only $170 for a raid 1 of thees and they are 2.5" double thick so they will easily fit in one 3.5" bay.
    Or you could even go Raid 5 for about $250. Latency still won't be great, but you'd have a really nice data storage setup for the equivalent of 500 SSD GBs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    raid 1 is mirrored, that way if one dies you are still ok. are you thinking raid 0, that one you loose everything if one fails?

    No, he is correctly assuming that both drives will die since Seagate manufactures them. It actually is 100% fail rate with any number of drives :P

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    Guess the 6+ year old Seagate drive in my work PC didn't get the memo.
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    You know the saying. "Anecdotal experience with a small sample size is definitive."
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    I know.

    I've not really had any more Seagate failures over any other drive to speak of, across all the systems I've worked on over the years though.

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    These drives are not $85.
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