New version of my PPD Estimator

[[Ion]]

Hey guys,

Finally a new version of my WCG PPD Estimator! And it's (hopefully) the best version yet!



CPU support list for the most recent version; if you're looking for something older look at the hidden material below:

• First Gen Intel Core (Nehalem)
• Second Gen Intel Core (Sandy Bridge)
• Third Gen Intel Core (Ivy Bridge)
• Fourth Gen Intel Core (Haswell)
• AMD Phenom II
• First Gen AMD FX (Bulldozer)
• Second Gen AMD FX (Piledriver)

Multi-socket systems are implicitly supported; just enter the total number of cores present across all CPUs.

To use the latest version of the WCG PPD Estimator, download the zip file and extract; then run the ppdEstimator.bat file. This estimator requires Java to be installed on your computer. While this is perhaps sub-optimal, it means that it will be much easier for me to release a Linux or OS X version of it. I'll try to work on those.

Disclaimer: All estimates given are estimates, actual results will be different. PPD will vary by as much as 50% between two consecutive days due to the nature of the WCG validation process.


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Old version and information; not relevant to most people

It's been quite a while since I was last logged in here (6 months ), but I return with good news: I've finally gotten around to updating my WCG PPD estimator, now with support for all of the following CPUs:

Core 2 Duo (Conroe)
Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield)
Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale)
Core 2 Quad (Yorkfield)
Core i3/Core i5 (Clarkdale)
Core i5 (Lynnfield)
Core i7 (quad-core) Now with Sandy Bridge support
Core i7 (hex-core)
Athlon 64X2/Athlon X2
Phenom I X3
Phenom I X4
Athlon II X2
Athlon II X3
Athlon II X4
Phenom II X2
Phenom II X3
Phenom II X4
Phenom II X6

Now with support for Sandy & Ivy Bridge (and -E) as well as 1st/2nd generation AMD APUs--check out the 2013 edition!

Any (preferably simple) feature requests? I don't promise that I'll be able to get to them right away (and, depending on the complexity, maybe not at all, my programming knowledge is limited) but I'll do my best to add new features you guys want

[lkiller123]

Pretty hardcore

What did you code this with?

[[Ion]]

Pretty hardcore

What did you code this with?

Thanks!

Written in a combo of C and C++ in MS Visual Studio 2010. First version (from late late last year) was C-only and had support for a much smaller range of CPUs...this one has some C++ elements, about doubles the CPU support list, and was done in VS2010 (not sure if that really matters though )

[lkiller123]

Oh by the way, I think it will look more neat if it displays only the PPD at the end.

That would be perfect

[trn]

I like it and voted so estimates seem high for the Hexa's.

3700MHz says 7090 ppd and 4200MHz says 8050 ppd.

free-dc stats is down but I think my machines do ~1,000 ppd less at both those speeds

[[Ion]]

Oh by the way, I think it will look more neat if it displays only the PPD at the end.

That would be perfect

So you mean just the numbers and no other text?

I like it and voted so estimates seem high for the Hexa's.

3700MHz says 7090 ppd and 4200MHz says 8050 ppd.

free-dc stats is down but I think my machines do ~1,000 ppd less at both those speeds

I based my estimates off of a slightly different method. I found someone w/ hexs, got them to go to the device statistics, and give me the points/runtime for at least 7-10 days. From there I then averaged out the numbers and computed what points the system would give if it got exactly 12 days of runtime (as it's a hex) and then worked backwards from there.

So actual results will probably be lower, I just have found this more accurate than using BOINCStats or Free-DC.

I'll try and gather more data for hexs, I had limited data for that, so it's probably not so accurate.

If you wouldn't mind PM'ing me your data from some of your rigs (along w/ CPU speed & OS) I'd be much obliged

[Johnmark]

I like it and voted so estimates seem high for the Hexa's.

3700MHz says 7090 ppd and 4200MHz says 8050 ppd.

free-dc stats is down but I think my machines do ~1,000 ppd less at both those speeds

Handy, dandy little proggie there

I'm with you TRN, the numbers for the hexa seem to high. I'm also getting about 1000 boinc pps less than the estimator?

[lkiller123]

So you mean just the numbers and no other text?

Yes, that would be very nice.

[[Ion]]

Handy, dandy little proggie there

I'm with you TRN, the numbers for the hexa seem to high. I'm also getting about 1000 boinc pps less than the estimator?

See my note about how it's calculated....I'll update it later if the general consensus is that it over-estimates for hexs

Yes, that would be very nice.

I can do that later....probably later today, time permitting

[trn]

If you wouldn't mind PM'ing me your data from some of your rigs (along w/ CPU speed & OS) I'd be much obliged

I generally rely on Free-DC stats for host averages and PPD. Right now Free-DC stats is partially out as they mess with their servers,

All 3 of these i7 Hexa's are running at 4.2GHz and all are running windows 7 or Server 2008 R2 and x64 boinc and haven't been messed with for at least two weeks:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1349795
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1185919
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1177763

That will be hard to use, my machines report erratically because I don't use immediately in my config.

*and I have Linux data too; I saw that was on your future to-do list.

[Kryja]

Very nice little tool there [Ion]

Much easier than scouring the forum for vapors prediction thread ;P

[[Ion]]

I generally rely on Free-DC stats for host averages and PPD. Right now Free-DC stats is partially out as they mess with their servers,

All 3 of these i7 Hexa's are running at 4.2GHz and all are running windows 7 or Server 2008 R2 and x64 boinc and haven't been messed with for at least two weeks:
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1349795
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1185919
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_gra...wcg&id=1177763

That will be hard to use, my machines report erratically because I don't use immediately in my config.

*and I have Linux data too; I saw that was on your future to-do list.

I was actually hoping from your info from www.worldcommunitygrid.org

I've found that there's little PPD difference between Windows and Linux in terms of PPD, what I meant by Linux was a version compiled for Linux

Very nice little tool there [Ion]

Much easier than scouring the forum for vapors prediction thread ;P

Thanks

[soya_crack]

Phenom X6 also seems to be too high.

[[Ion]]

Phenom X6 also seems to be too high.

Thanks, I'll try to gather some more info and revise that later

How much too high?

[slaveondope]

PPD seem to be a bit high. AMD;s in general are 1ppd*mhz*core
While Intels are 1.1 ppd*mhz*thread
The non HT Intels Im not positive on.

[[Ion]]

PPD seem to be a bit high. AMD;s in general are 1ppd*mhz*core
While Intels are 1.1 ppd*mhz*thread
The non HT Intels Im not positive on.

I'm pretty sure that's about what I'm using....the X6 may be a bit higher though...I'll check

[MrMojoZ]

Any interest in a quick and dirty website version of this?

[[Ion]]

I could see what I could do in terms of that...it would probably involve learning PHP, so I can't promise immediate results, but it would be cool

[MrMojoZ]

I can do the interface quickly in ASP.NET, I just don't know the math for the different CPUs vs client type.

[[Ion]]

Oh, well that's easy. PM incoming

[MrMojoZ]

Great, I'm trying to avoid work while looking like I'm busy on something.

[[Ion]]

lol

Thanks!!

[[XC] Oj101]

I could see what I could do in terms of that...it would probably involve learning PHP, so I can't promise immediate results, but it would be cool

I'm a full-time PHP dev, I'll gladly help out. PM me with stats to use (PPD/MHZ/core, or however you do it)

(It's late evening, I can whip it together after work tomorrow for you.)

[[Ion]]

I'm a full-time PHP dev, I'll gladly help out. PM me with stats to use (PPD/MHZ/core, or however you do it)

(It's late evening, I can whip it together after work tomorrow for you.)

YGPM

[[XC] Oj101]

Well I guess it can go here then...