Microsoft Announces Windows 10

[Kai Robinson]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8574/a...d-by-microsoft

[Evantaur]

win 7 -> win 8 -> win 8.1 -> win 10

[Darakian]

I do not like that new window snap, or the new alt tab, virtual desktops look like a dumbed down version of mac/gnome's implementation. New start menu, meh. Overall I'm seeing fewer reasons not to run linux everywhere.

[Chrono Detector]

I really hope in the final version they will change the GUI, because the flat UI is really boring and ugly. And why are they still using Vista icons? 3 generations of Windows is quite old and enough.

[Sparky]

I want the glassy look of 7 back, or at least some updated variation of that kind of thing. Flat just looks, well, flat. Cheap.

But I like the sound of some of the things their working on. More like what 8 should have been to start with on the start menu. I like parts of 8 that I'm glad they're keeping (multi monitor is certainly superior than on 7, not that 7 was bad but the improvements are nice).

I appreciate that they finally got it through their rather thick skulls though about the single interface SNAFU. “We’re not talking about one UI to rule them all – we’re talking about one product family, with a tailored experience for each device.” - THANK YOU!!! As long as they get the proper interfacing set up for each one (ideally, with some blurred lines between them so you can customize them a bit) then I'm all for that.

Maybe I missed it but I don't understand the avoidance of 9 however.

[NEOAethyr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=NfveyXCsiA8

Main prob I have is the look, it's garbage.
So I'll be skipping this one if they don't fix that.
Glad I've been working on a linux setup off and on lately, I'll have something to move to eventually.
Trying to work on a transparent proxy script and with auto packet modification and caching (yeah I know of squid but I wanna re-invent the wheel...), and I'm maybe halfway there, I can already use ngrep to grab all my jpg's or video's (needs mp4 support still).
Now I just need a way of sending modded packets back up so my software is told where to grab it's images and videos from, the idea is save a shiz load of bandwith without enabling the buggy hd cache that every browser has.
Should be fun .

Anyways I'm switching to linux, screw windows.
Oh yay I can use a shortcut to paste into the cmd window, yippy do, I can do that on linux after editing the default shortcuts too.



Edit:
It was called deep packet inspection that I was working on, well sorta, except that I could use it for logging and caching and redoing...
Like patching parts of html to loopback or whatever.
The idea is to get something like the old proxymitron, but better, built as scripts.
That and a few other things got me looking at linux as a general replacement os, but it needs work.
Kde and some widgets need fixed up.
Looking forward to the next plamsa 5 workspace stuff, doesn't have any good widgets yet though.
Oh and weyland..., haven't messed with that...
Gotta work on iptables, etc etc etc.

[MattiasNYC]

I appreciate that they finally got it through their rather thick skulls though about the single interface SNAFU. “We’re not talking about one UI to rule them all – we’re talking about one product family, with a tailored experience for each device.” - THANK YOU!!!

Funny, that's how I saw Win8 already. Want desktop? Switch to desktop. Want touch UI? Switch to touch UI. On a tablet? Get default touch unless you can run both.

I still maintain that having the option for a unified interface across platforms is the way to go. People will adapt and feel comfortable with the same experience being possible across platforms. I think that's the right move. I'm still on Win 8.0 on my laptop and I have no problems at all with the UI.

[stasio]

It's LIVE........

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso

Upgrade:
http://web.esd.microsoft.com/W9TPE/0...calPreview.exe

[trans am]

I got to the disclaimer accept terms part and clicked "i do not agree" and rolled it back. I used windows update method and then i found the iso part after i started installing.
someone else do it.

[Darakian]

Isos are available in the usual places for those that don't want a microsoft account. After using it for a bit here are my main takeaways:
1. Boots to desktop by default (good)
2. Start menu is basically a win 9x start menu if you disable live tiles.
3. Search app/taskbar thing is meh. You can't change the web search backend from bing and you can't disable trending news.
4. Virtual desktops are laughably behind the times compared to a modern linux. There is no rearranging and no moving of apps from one to another.
5. The new window snap thing works the win7 way for some apps and the new way where it minimizes for others making for inconsistency.

Overall I really wish they had just kept metro as metro and the desktop as the desktop. Merging them just feels like they're trying to do two designs at once.

[NEOAethyr]

I'll doit, 6hrs dl time though, get it while I'm sleeping.
Should be fine in vbox.

Hoping I can at least re-disable the start menu, then later get some 3rd party patch to enable transparency and blur.
I would consider switching if I could do that.
I wonder what the latency is like...

edit:
@Darakian
I'm getting the iso right now from microsoft without having an account I don't know what you're talking about usual places lol.

[Darakian]

Virtual box works great. Here are some videos to show off how bad the virtual desktops are in windows 10 compared to gnome 3 in fedora 21
Win 10:
https://vimeo.com/107771294
Fedora 21:
https://vimeo.com/107771362

On the fedora side, I haven't installed the guest additions so the UI crashes part way, bare in mind that's a VM specific issue.

[Piledriver]

Was ready to uninstall until i found out i could get rid of start menu with a log off. Then decided to give a chance to this hybrid approach. I think it was a great idea attaching the live tiles to the start menu. Thankfully they kept the right button legacy menu, and i like how this start menu is search friendly just like the start screen.

[rge]

I like 10, defaults to desktop, start menu similar style to 7 with some improvements, looks like you can customize start how you want, and I like the efficiency of just adding tiles and I will keep ones I want and delete others. The right click start menu items is nice. I can seamlessly go back and forth between 7 and 10, unlike smartphone OS win 8. 10 does look bland and doesnt have all features yet but it is just the technical build. Im liking it so far and looks to be designed for a desktop, just too many driver issues to completely switch yet, but steam/games/surfing/video all works fine. Just dont do any benching and expect cpuz/hwmonitor to read anything.

[PatRaceTin]

I run 10 Preview for a few days , feeling like Windows 7 + Windows 8 + Windows 8.1 = Windows 10.

[Think]

any threads available to help the homeless here tweak 8.1 to 7

[CrimInalA]

Still a full year to go before we see anything stable released . I wish it was sooner

[Evantaur]

trying to get my HTPC/Boinc cruncher to run it, so far so good but it seems to have problems understanding symbolic links