[News] AMD Confirms Vega is Launching this Quarter

[StyM]

https://www.techpowerup.com/232708/a...g-this-quarter

Via Facebook, AMD has confirmed that Vega is nearly here - at least, as nearly here as a "this quarter" can be. This means Vega will launch in two-months time (Q2 extends through the months of April, May and June, after all.) Through a post on its Facebook page, AMD replied that Vega will be coming "when it's ready... And it will be this quarter."

According to previous leaks (and our own deep dive on Vega's architecture), Vega should go a long way towards bridging the power/performance gap between AMD and NVIDIA's GeForce series. It will be the first time since Fury that AMD will have a competitive, high-performance graphics design (expectedly, and hopefully, since no-one likes to buy over-priced graphics cards.) The fact that AMD has teased Vega in two different pieces of media that come out in May (Arkane Studios' Prey, which comes out on May 5th, and Alien: Covenant, which also comes out during the month of May.) I've previously posited that AMD wouldn't tease Vega's launch alongside one of the most promising games of the year without giving us the chance to power it through Vega come launch day, but as Prey's release date approaches and there is no more information on Vega (much less an announcement), it's looking increasingly likely that we'll have to wait until we can see that universe in all of its Vega-rendered glory.

[AliG]

See, this is what concerns me. AMD has been virtually silent on Vega's performance lately - and that's just not their style. They always make sure everyone is hears about the best aspects of their tech prior to launch.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Vega will compete well against the 1080 Ti.

[StAndrew]

I tend to agree. That said, if you look at 4k scaling, clock speeds and performance tend to see diminishing returns at higher resolutions into 4k with an opposite trend in memory bandwidth. What we may see is a closed gap, even to the point of being competative, at high resolutions, especially 4k.

[EternityZX9]

See, this is what concerns me. AMD has been virtually silent on Vega's performance lately - and that's just not their style. They always make sure everyone is hears about the best aspects of their tech prior to launch.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Vega will compete well against the 1080 Ti.

FWIW:

Vega Performance Looks Really Nice Compared to 1080Ti and Titan Xp

Hell....it's about time.

[Particle]

See, this is what concerns me. AMD has been virtually silent on Vega's performance lately - and that's just not their style. They always make sure everyone is hears about the best aspects of their tech prior to launch.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Vega will compete well against the 1080 Ti.

I can't say for sure that you and I exist within the same reality. Launches from the AMD graphics team have tended to be marked by secrecy. They have gone so far in the past as to give different partners different spec sheets so that when leaks occur they know who to clobber. The Radeon 4000 series launch is a good example. They just sort of appeared suddenly. As a community, we went from a waiting state where nobody knew anything about a new product line to "they're launching a new series any moment" over the course of about a week as I recall.

[StAndrew]

Do the processor and graphics groups have different PR teams? I'm hesitant to consider the Ryzen launch as a model for a standard product release. I do find it hard to see how the Vega can catch up to the 1080 TI much less the Xp except mayby higher memory bandwidth requring loads.

[AliG]

FWIW:

Vega Performance Looks Really Nice Compared to 1080Ti and Titan Xp

Hell....it's about time.

Is that an official statement though? Ryzen had claims of 40% IPC a year in advance, and then they claimed 52% a few months prior to launch. Granted, that 52% was in raw integer and float applications (and clearly not in AVX2), but the fact we don't see anything for Vega seems suspicious to me. Especially after they claimed Fury X would be the fastest card in the world (it clearly wasn't) prior to launch:
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph...orstellen.html

I can't say for sure that you and I exist within the same reality. Launches from the AMD graphics team have tended to be marked by secrecy. They have gone so far in the past as to give different partners different spec sheets so that when leaks occur they know who to clobber. The Radeon 4000 series launch is a good example. They just sort of appeared suddenly. As a community, we went from a waiting state where nobody knew anything about a new product line to "they're launching a new series any moment" over the course of about a week as I recall.

Ahh the daily name calling ignore post. Glad I didn't read it.

[kromosto]

"Vega Performance Looks Really Nice Compared to 1080Ti and Titan Xp" is a very political phrase that can mean anything from Vega beating Titan XP and Vega is equal to 1080.

[EternityZX9]

Is that an official statement though?...

It's from AMD’s Desktop CPU marketing manager...so take it for what it's worth. At least someone from AMD said something about performance.

"Vega Performance Looks Really Nice Compared to 1080Ti and Titan Xp" is a very political phrase that can mean anything from Vega beating Titan XP and Vega is equal to 1080.

True. But, at this point I think I would be happy with anything competitive from AMD.

[niobium615]

It's been nearly 2 years since they released a graphics card competing at the high end. I'm really hoping that Vega is at least moderately competitive with GP102, otherwise I can see AMD making the same mistake that it did with it's CPUs, and slowly falling into obscurity. And you can be damn sure that Nvidia won't hesitate to take full advantage of a lack of competition. In a sense, they already have with the $1200 Titans.

[AbortRetryFail?]

I suspect AMD with Vega is threading the needle between, "Gaming for Show -- Enterprise for Dough"

I suspect everything will work out just dandy for them

[Charles Wirth]

I can confirm that Vega will be 2.5

[StAndrew]

I can confirm that Vega will be 2.5

2.5 what?

Months?
Ghz?
Inches?
time's faster than the Xp?

[vario]

Huh, so fury was 600mm2 on 28nm, 4096 shaders.
Vega 4096 shaders, 500mm2 14nm. There have to be some big changes, either in architecture or the way the chip is build.
On the performance front. Well he didnt say GAMING performance, im pretty sure vega will be competitive in the compute department. That could translate poorly into the dx11 performance, with vulkan and dx12 being somewhat better.
Just look at ryzen, a lot of pure performance. Poor showing with nvidia cards and dx11.
TBH if it will be 1080 in dx11, they will have to sell it around that price. And thats good for me, cause i will buy one and it will just get better with time .
Also, Fury is a powerful card.It just doesnt seem to be able to translate it into performance in games.I mean results in andromeda are just insanely bad.

[vario]

2.5 what?

Months?
Ghz?
Inches?
time's faster than the Xp?

I mean either 2.5 months away or 2.5 more powerful than a polaris :P .

[Vinas]

Looking forward to the Vega launch. Hopefully it will be a nice upgrade path from the rx400 series.

[EternityZX9]

I can confirm that Vega will be 2.5

2.5 what?

Months?
Ghz?
Inches?
time's faster than the Xp?

I second this.

FUGGER just trolled this entire thread

NDA's must be fun

[AliG]

I mean either 2.5 months away or 2.5 more powerful than a polaris :P .

Nah, 2.5x the power consumption

But realistically I think it's probably TFLOPS or memory bandwidth.

[KiSUAN]

I can confirm that Vega will be 2.5

This is pure evil and I like it.

[StAndrew]

This is pure evil and I like it.

IIRC, AMD mentioned 2.5 performance per watt over the Fiji IIRC... But which "Fiji"? The R9 295X2 was about on par with the GTX 1070, slightly slower. Assuming the two GPU's scale %100 and using the 295X as a benchmark, another %50 increase, should see performance match and even beat the TI/Xp. Unfortunately those aren't the benchmark AMD needs to worry about. Volta was anounced to be released FY17, right?

[zanzabar]

unless gloflo can fab hmb2 i dont see it happening.

IIRC, AMD mentioned 2.5 performance per watt over the Fiji IIRC... But which "Fiji"? The R9 295X2 was about on par with the GTX 1070, slightly slower. Assuming the two GPU's scale %100 and using the 295X as a benchmark, another %50 increase, should see performance match and even beat the TI/Xp. Unfortunately those aren't the benchmark AMD needs to worry about. Volta was anounced to be released FY17, right?

295 was not a fiji, fiji was a pro duo and the fury. the original pro duo should still be the fastest single card but i did not find anyone benching it against the gp102

[niobium615]

I can confirm that Vega will be 2.5

Could be he decided to use European dating and it's launching on May 2nd

[EternityZX9]

Just spitballing here...but if FUGGER knows something the rest of us don't...maybe he can be bribed?

Anyone know his weakness? Gambling? Worshiping? Candy? Belly rubs?...hmmm

[StyM]

2.5 slots ...

[StAndrew]

unless gloflo can fab hmb2 i dont see it happening.



295 was not a fiji, fiji was a pro duo and the fury. the original pro duo should still be the fastest single card but i did not find anyone benching it against the gp102

Well in that case, 2.5x the performance per watt could easily be in Xp realm of performance. Probably not Volta though...