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    340.52 out, Phys-X disabled if you have other non-nV adapter or if not a GF 800 card

    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Window...ease-notes.pdf

    Chapter 1 page 3.


    Really, nV... really??

    I dont have anything around to test with at the moment so I cant verify..

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    Don't have a non nVidia GPU at present so can't test either, but I'm also annoyed at "SLi profile available via GeForce Experience" - why do I have to install your clunky app just to have access to something that should be included in the driver release? Not impressed, nVidia.
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    Just tried out this driver, had the exact same bugs with the last BETA driver, I mean seriously NVIDIA? Even the last WHQL driver worked perfectly than this one.
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    Souls - Hadn't noticed that, major fail.

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    Am conversing with an nVidia rep here on the GeForce Experience/SLi profiles issue. From response so far it seems like GFE will be used to 'hotfix' deliver SLi profiles in between driver releases and profiles will continue to be rolled into driver packages as per usual.
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    Why dont nV and AMD just have a profile updater in the control panel application that can grab the latest game profiles on demand? .. Both of their gaming programs are just basically bloated crap as far as i've experienced so far. Only thing I find mildly useful is the recording software.

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    Tell me about it; GFE wants to 'optimise' my games by dropping everything from 5760x1080 to 1920x1080. Um...no thanks, no, I think I like playing things in surround. Not to mention it only supports ten of the 300+ titles I have on Steam alone, and takes up a fair whack of background resources to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Window...ease-notes.pdf

    Chapter 1 page 3.


    Really, nV... really??

    I dont have anything around to test with at the moment so I cant verify..
    Pretty sure they mean the old 8000-series, works fine for me on GTX780

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    Did you actually read the release notes? Don't you know what an 8 series card is?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_series
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    About the "non Nvidia "graphics detected in the system thing.. It was allready the case no before ? The new thing its written now in the release note.

    I think we have discover this some year ago when Hybrid PhysX was becoming impossible to do due to the update, if it was no more work with a AMD GPU on main render graphics, the invert was too the same ( impossible to get it working if you have an AMD GPU on second, three gpu's,
    including on professional system with gpu for video ouput encoding ).

    They was problem with APU and Intel IGP before ( it is even adverted on different PhysX forum to disable completely the IGP in bios ). Even if i think it is fixed. The question now is to see if this cause new trouble.
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    Guess Nvidia wants us to buy a Nvidia APU only.
    Well I won't be buying Nvidia again if I can help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    major fail.
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    Did you actually read the release notes? Don't you know what an 8 series card is?

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    So how is this going to work for the millions of PCs out there with the newer Intel i-series CPUs that have integrated GPUs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    So how is this going to work for the millions of PCs out there with the newer Intel i-series CPUs that have integrated GPUs?
    This is not a technical requirement for physx to work just a caprice from nvidia so i believe it only searches for AMD graphic cars for not working...


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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    So how is this going to work for the millions of PCs out there with the newer Intel i-series CPUs that have integrated GPUs?

    If the workaround is still the same, you need to disable the IGP in bios... not sure for the AMD APU anyway.
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    NVIDIA GPU PhysX acceleration is available only on systems with GeForce 8-series
    and later GPUs with a minimum of 256 MB dedicated graphics memory.
    This has been the basic requirement for the HW accelerated PhysX run-time ever since Nvidia ported the code for CUDA six years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Did you actually read the release notes? Don't you know what an 8 series card is?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_series

    Strange, thought I had seen "800" as the listed series. Maybe I misread. My bad then.

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    Nvidia is just butthurt that people dare use a competitor's card for the primary.

    I saw that "nvidia experience" on another PC... a basic workstation with a low-end card no less. Disabled that nonsense.
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    I can understand the SLI profile dilemma, but most of us here have got monster rigs compared to average PCs, I'm sure they can handle a bit of Geforce Experience. I got it installed, never bothers me, now and then lets me know there is a new driver. Great because I go through most of the year forgetting about downloading the latest drivers.

    Besides the whole PhysX things is beaten to death about a million times now.
    I think we all know how we feel about it whether we like it or not. It's nVidia PhysX, their decision what to do with it.
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    I got an answer from Nvidia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I can understand the SLI profile dilemma, but most of us here have got monster rigs compared to average PCs, I'm sure they can handle a bit of Geforce Experience. I got it installed, never bothers me, now and then lets me know there is a new driver. Great because I go through most of the year forgetting about downloading the latest drivers.
    The problem at present with GFE, particularly for XSers, is that it doesn't understand that resolutions above 1920x1080 exist. Thus the 'optimised' settings provided are far from optimised for those running Surround, 4K or any other non-16:9 resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulsCollective View Post
    The problem at present with GFE, particularly for XSers, is that it doesn't understand that resolutions above 1920x1080 exist. Thus the 'optimised' settings provided are far from optimised for those running Surround, 4K or any other non-16:9 resolution.
    That's very annoying. Can you issue a support ticket regarding this or are you aware of nvidia already working on it?

    As regards to having both an AMD and nVidia card in their system, does anyone actually have this? Doesn't it cause major driver issues? Don't think I've ever heard anyone having a setup like that.

    Apparently Physx being disabled when an AMD card is present has been like this for the last 5 years.

    http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...s-present.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    That's very annoying. Can you issue a support ticket regarding this or are you aware of nvidia already working on it?

    As regards to having both an AMD and nVidia card in their system, does anyone actually have this? Doesn't it cause major driver issues? Don't think I've ever heard anyone having a setup like that.

    Apparently Physx being disabled when an AMD card is present has been like this for the last 5 years.

    http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/1...s-present.html
    Running a 750ti in my A10-7850k system, works perfectly fine so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    That's very annoying. Can you issue a support ticket regarding this or are you aware of nvidia already working on it?
    nVidia's response on this issue is that GFE is supposed to 'crowd-source' the optimum settings for all detected games, and thus as non-1080 resolutions are not common GFE is not suited for such setups.

    Basically, 'not our problem, deal with it'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    Running a 750ti in my A10-7850k system, works perfectly fine so far.

    Have a second 750ti in the mail that i'm going to put in my 2600K/290x system to play with for a bit.
    I lied, the bug that sets the driver into low power mode (540mhz) until rebooting or disabling and re-enabling the adapter is still there. Not all games cause the bug, but "spintires" can cause it every 1-2 hours without fail.

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