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    AMD to Enter Another Round of Restructuring This Month

    According to my sources, AMD is planning another round of restructuring or reorganization, whatever you wanna call it. There's a very good chance people will get laid off this month.

    Our sources are confirming to us that AMD (NASDAQ:AMD) will undergo another major restructuring of the company. This restructuring follows the recent reorganization of the company's overall organization headed by Dr. Lisa Su and John Byrne. The latest restructuring was announced around the time of Computex and based upon a split of the company into two separate divisions. This restructuring seemed like one merely on paper, shifting over some responsibilities from one person to the other but keeping all divisions and staff intact.
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    Honestly with the way they're getting pummeled in the CPU market and now probably the GPU market as well just how long can this company really last? Outside of their APUs their product line up is just not competitive.

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    Did something drastic just happen recently that the Radeon is somehow no longer "competitive?" Last I knew they stacked up pretty darn good there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Did something drastic just happen recently that the Radeon is somehow no longer "competitive?" Last I knew they stacked up pretty darn good there.
    Well their high-end cards just got overmatched by the 970 and 980 and the mid-range is just about even but not better than Nvidia. And they need straight up wins now as a company not ties or small losses in performance. At their current pace they're not a company with a bright future more like one that might be 1 big mistake away from becoming history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Did something drastic just happen recently that the Radeon is somehow no longer "competitive?" Last I knew they stacked up pretty darn good there.
    R9 290 and 290X were considered (and sold far worse than) to be sub-par to the GK110 cards, and Maxwell 2.0-based cards like the GTX 970 and 980 have made most of AMD's product stack irrelevant on the GPU market at this point. They already were far hotter and louder but just slightly cheaper while running a little slower, now they are far outmatched on every front and no major new Radeon products are in sight for at least 5-6+ months. Add in their poor work on the CPU front for years now as well and it's little wonder they're struggling, which is a bad thing for consumers as less competition = less progress forward and worse pricing in general.

    Before that, the GTX 600-series cards outsold the Radeon 7950/7970 a huge amount as well by offering better performance at a lower price. AMD has long been considered the "bargain brand" (and not in a good way) amongst gamers.. now they're just considered the "bad brand" with downright slimy marketers and no better product to show for it.

    Writing's been on the wall for years now, but it was generally shot down by trolls with nothing better to do with their time but harry people who ever pointed it out on forums.
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    I think their biggest problem is that they don't have stable leadership. The board of directors has been changing hands very frequently the ever since Ruiz was ousted and you can tell that the company has lost direction. Not to mention if they keep laying off engineers, they just simply won't have the talent necessary to keep up design wise.

    They should look at what Ford did and take out a good $20 billion in corporate loans while interest rates are low and reinvest in the company. Best case scenario that gives them enough fresh breathing air until they can keep the fabs pumping out chips at a good capacity. Worst case scenario they go bankrupt and the debt means nothing either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linchpin View Post
    Well their high-end cards just got overmatched by the 970 and 980 and the mid-range is just about even but not better than Nvidia. And they need straight up wins now as a company not ties or small losses in performance. At their current pace they're not a company with a bright future more like one that might be 1 big mistake away from becoming history.
    Is this your first year following the GPU wars or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    price drops are nice
    It will, for clean store before they release their new lineup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Linchpin View Post
    Well their high-end cards just got overmatched by the 970 and 980 and the mid-range is just about even but not better than Nvidia. And they need straight up wins now as a company not ties or small losses in performance. At their current pace they're not a company with a bright future more like one that might be 1 big mistake away from becoming history.
    So you are comparing years released gpu and new series for Nvidia.. come back when AMD will have release their own new series.
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    The latest rumor is AMD refresh gpus will have stacked ram and will be released early 2015 , while Nvidias HBM counter parts will be out 1016 a whole year later. This might turn tables in AMDs favor.
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    Except AMD has nothing imminent that we know of at this point, how many months are they going to be behind Nvidia this time? Root for the underdog all you want doesn't change the fact that they're not doing good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DefStar View Post
    Is this your first year following the GPU wars or something?
    No, is this your first year being a passive aggressive AMD fanboy?

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    AMD has to win at performance per watt... not performance per dollar

    and even when AMD clearly wins they still get sh*t on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linchpin View Post
    No, is this your first year being a passive aggressive AMD fanboy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    AMD has to win at performance per watt... not performance per dollar

    and even when AMD clearly wins they still get sh*t on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    AMD has to win at performance per watt... not performance per dollar

    and even when AMD clearly wins they still get sh*t on.
    does amd win at anything since the change to modules in price to performance or per watt. amd ed up big time and has to do something since they are still making new BD type parts when it needs to be ditched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    The latest rumor is AMD refresh gpus will have stacked ram and will be released early 2015 , while Nvidias HBM counter parts will be out 1016 a whole year later. This might turn tables in AMDs favor.
    In new gpus are NOT HBM, AMD has delta compression, new chips dont NEED expensive HBMs, it is only dream classic amd fans here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linchpin View Post
    Well their high-end cards just got overmatched by the 970 and 980 and the mid-range is just about even but not better than Nvidia. And they need straight up wins now as a company not ties or small losses in performance. At their current pace they're not a company with a bright future more like one that might be 1 big mistake away from becoming history.
    outmatched is such a strong, strong word in today's incremental at best generation improvements. No one with a 290x is hurting with the advent of the 980 and its only a $100 slash to parity which in the gpu world is gentle for a old generation. AMD is still hands down bleeding in cpu's, but in gpu's they are still able and it will be a shock if their next release does not complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    In new gpus are NOT HBM, AMD has delta compression, new chips dont NEED expensive HBMs, it is only dream classic amd fans here
    Yeah... and Fiji not beating down GTX980 is "only dream classic nvidia fans here."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenTiger View Post
    R9 290 and 290X were considered (and sold far worse than) to be sub-par to the GK110 cards, and Maxwell 2.0-based cards like the GTX 970 and 980 have made most of AMD's product stack irrelevant on the GPU market at this point. They already were far hotter and louder but just slightly cheaper while running a little slower, now they are far outmatched on every front and no major new Radeon products are in sight for at least 5-6+ months. Add in their poor work on the CPU front for years now as well and it's little wonder they're struggling, which is a bad thing for consumers as less competition = less progress forward and worse pricing in general.

    Before that, the GTX 600-series cards outsold the Radeon 7950/7970 a huge amount as well by offering better performance at a lower price. AMD has long been considered the "bargain brand" (and not in a good way) amongst gamers.. now they're just considered the "bad brand" with downright slimy marketers and no better product to show for it.

    Writing's been on the wall for years now, but it was generally shot down by trolls with nothing better to do with their time but harry people who ever pointed it out on forums.
    Yes the writing's been on the wall since 2006, it's almost 2015, one would thought the trolls would have just zip it by now.

    Now a nice hot cup of reality

    AMD have more GPU share than nvidia and have been that way for years now.
    AMD raised gross profit by over 50% 2012-2013.
    AMD went from $5.5 billion in debt to only $2 billion while having the least competitive CPU in it's history and while doing such things like paying $700 millions to get out of globalfoundries deal.

    Next year it comes the last and best bulldozer arc iteration and one year after the new complete non-share-resources arc, with finally a desktop refresh. Not even going to mention the HSA thingy.

    yep the writing it's on the wall.

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    This is one thing I like about only upgrading every 2-3 generations. I miss out on all the every generation cross bashing. "HAHA X is now faster than Y, Y suxx0rz!" Whatever.

    Right now I have little reason to move from my 7950 to a new card from either side as it handles everything I throw at it just fine for what I do. I'll care more and pay more attention when it starts struggling to keep up. Probably in another couple years and another couple generations of cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    This is one thing I like about only upgrading every 2-3 generations. I miss out on all the every generation cross bashing. "HAHA X is now faster than Y, Y suxx0rz!" Whatever.

    Right now I have little reason to move from my 7950 to a new card from either side as it handles everything I throw at it just fine for what I do. I'll care more and pay more attention when it starts struggling to keep up. Probably in another couple years and another couple generations of cards.
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    Does this have anything to do with the AMD/Samsung alliance rumor?
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