Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 76

Thread: Intel 4790K OC Report ~

  1. #1
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067

    Intel 4790K OC Report ~

    Intel 4790K ES C0
    Cascade and LN2 limit testing

    http://valid.canardpc.com/w90q4y

    Single core: Super Pi 32M
    Threaded: Cinebench 11.5
    Asus MVIIG and Gigabyte z97x-OC Force
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666C10
    Corsair 240GB Neutron
    Enermax 1500W MAXRevo

    Thermalright 120 heat sink
    4 Stage phase change cooler
    K|ngp|n F1 LN2 pot

    VID 1.104v
    Boot into windows 1.25v @ 4.4Ghz

    Mhz Vcore Cooling Input Temp Threads
    4500 1.25 air stock 35c
    4600 1.25 air stock 35c
    4700 1.25 air stock 35c
    4800 1.3 air stock 35c
    4900 1.35 air stock 35c
    5000 1.4 air stock 35c
    5100 1.42 phase stock 35c
    5200 1.44 phase 1.85 -109
    5300 1.46 phase 1.88 -109
    5400 1.48 phase 1.9 -109
    5500 1.5 phase 1.95 -109
    5600 1.52 phase 1.975 -109
    5700 1.55 phase 2 -109
    5800 1.6 phase 2.1 -109 4c8t
    5900 1.7 phase 2.2 -109 4c4t
    6000 1.8 phase 2.3 -130 4c8t
    6100 1.85 LN2 2.4 -135 4c8t
    6200 1.9 LN2 2.5 -140 4c8t
    6300 1.92 LN2 2.5 -142 4c8t

    1.95vcore = instant crash @ -140c
    2.6v input = instant crash

    I need to test the memory controller more
    Memory controller maxed out a little over 1.4v -130c 5.5Ghz, 1.4v @ 5.2Ghz seems to be a close max stable

    Cold bug factory defaults in bios at -120c
    Cold bug 5.5Ghz boot -140c
    Cold bug 6Ghz 4c8t idle -141c ~ loaded -150c

    You gotta get chip warmer to get it colder
    It clocks better and goes colder with 4c8t, removal of HT and cores makes cold bug worse.

    This chip is binned for review sample, it should be close to what you get from retail.
    With the new chip you get more Mhz on air and water but you can see the wall trying to reach the last few multilples on the top end.
    This chip is better than any retail 4770K that I have tested in the past year.

    Two of the major changes help with getting all retail chips to 5ghz on air, The TIM and the added resistor packs on the back of the CPU allow more voltage and that pushes the chip a little harder to push past 6Ghz.

    I could see a lot more going on with cold and voltages, what was making the chip go faster and take more cold. Running all cores with HT and stressing the memory controller increased the internal load thus moving the cold bug from -120c to -140c. Example: Hyperthreading on and off is a 10c swing on the cold bug.

    I can imagine without this new TIM and resistor packs that this chip would be a 5.6Ghz chip, so yes the improvements help the chips OC on the top end a little better vs the retails we have now, there should be a lot more 6Ghz+ chips to be found. The trade off is that it will take more voltage to push that chip up hill.

    Giving the chip 1.8v and 1.9v seemed to be easy but at the trade off of max operating Mhz on all cores, so finesse must be taken to meet the temp/volt steps. My steps above in 100Mhz increments, the voltages and temps needed to make each step is greater than before for last multiples. The 4770K usually wouldn't give up the multiples when pushed too hard. I am sure we will see 2 volts again real soon. Whoever hits the 7Ghz mark will be sporting some crazy voltages.

    I really hope that single stage phase change coolers can make a come back with this new 4790K, I am sure my chip could do 5.8Ghz 4c8t 24/7 and pull off 6.1Ghz screen for bragging rights.

    Now that I know to push the chip it needs vcore and cooling = more Mhz. When you reach past 5.5Ghz you will need to add input voltage above 2v

    My chip will do 5Ghz on air with a decent heat sink. I am using this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-125-_-Product

    If you need to see 5Ghz from your 4790K just crank the vcore to 1.4v to 1.5v in XTU, increase multiples to 50x with cupid open. Set it back and you are done. Do not expect 5Ghz air machines, you need water cooling for 5Ghz+ 24/7 operation.
    No one promised 5Ghz air cooling processors, be realistic and settle for 4.9Ghz
    My chip is an ES and I have been to 1.7v on air and would have tried 1.8v if I made progress at 1.7v.

    http://valid.canardpc.com/b8wwe5

    For serious overclocking a higher capacity heat sinks are needed, the water cooling segment will benefit and after many hours of plugging at temps and voltages I am back to the same conclusion that phase change is the way to go on this generation of processor to open it up fully.

    Looking forward, one thing that I would like to see fixed is the multiples and controlling cores independently. AMD did a great job with this, I would love to have 4 cores enabled and leave 3 cores parked at idle and one core maxed out that I can set affinity to.

    Thanks for the unlocked anniversary edition, this will bring endless joy to many more overclockers than before.

    http://fugger.ipage.com/32mair.PNG

    Thanks
    Last edited by FUGGER; 06-11-2014 at 02:14 PM.
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

  2. #2
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Oregon - USA
    Posts
    825
    Nice. I need one.
    Asus Rampage IV Extreme
    4930k @4.875
    G.Skill Trident X 2666 Cl10
    Gtx 780 SC
    1600w Lepa Gold
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB


  3. #3
    Xtreme 3D Team
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    8,452
    Good on air/water...average on LN2 :/.
    Intel all dey erry dey
    AMD all nite erry nite party party party

  4. #4
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Stockton, CA
    Posts
    3,418
    Very nice. Thanks Charles for the info !

  5. #5

  6. #6
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    285
    Thx for the test. Looks like DC is rather overhyped. I'll probably stay with my good 4770 instead of wasting money for "new" gen.
    Overclocking, it's a lifestyle

  7. #7
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067
    Added stuff after I got some sleep.
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    FL,USA
    Posts
    39
    4-stage cascade AND F1?
    DJ got 6.5 on his..but..you know..it's ES

  9. #9
    I am Xtreme FlanK3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Czech republic
    Posts
    6,707
    nice, seems very simillar as my 4770K from LAM. I hope, with Broadwell-K chips we will see lower coldbug or without coldbug...
    ROG Power PCs - Intel and AMD
    CPUs:i7-6950X, i7-5960X, 4x i7-7700K, i3-7350K, 2x i7-6700K, i5-6600K, R7-1800X, R7-1700X, 3x AMD FX-9590, 1x AMD FX-9370, 4x AMD FX-8350,1x AMD FX-8320,1x AMD FX-8300, 2x AMD FX-6300,2x AMD FX-4300, 3x AMD FX-8150, 2x AMD FX-8120 125 and 95W, AMD X2 555 BE, AMD x4 965 BE C2 and C3, AMD X4 970 BE, AMD x4 975 BE, AMD x4 980 BE, AMD X6 1090T BE, AMD X6 1100T BE, A10-7870K, Athlon 845, Athlon 860K,AMD A10-7850K, AMD A10-6800K, A8-6600K, 2x AMD A10-5800K, AMD A10-5600K, AMD A8-3850, AMD A8-3870K, 2x AMD A64 3000+, AMD 64+ X2 4600+ EE, Intel i7-980X, Intel i7-2600K, Intel i7-3770K,2x i7-4770K, Intel i7-3930KAMD Cinebench R10 challenge AMD Cinebench R15 thread Intel Cinebench R15 thread

  10. #10
    PI in the face
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,084
    Team msi removed the ihs at the Intel event. The tim and everything else looks the exact same as Haswell.
    Quote Originally Posted by L0ud View Post
    So many opinions and so few screenshots

  11. #11
    I am Xtreme FlanK3r's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Czech republic
    Posts
    6,707
    Ah.. Its new info for me...
    ROG Power PCs - Intel and AMD
    CPUs:i7-6950X, i7-5960X, 4x i7-7700K, i3-7350K, 2x i7-6700K, i5-6600K, R7-1800X, R7-1700X, 3x AMD FX-9590, 1x AMD FX-9370, 4x AMD FX-8350,1x AMD FX-8320,1x AMD FX-8300, 2x AMD FX-6300,2x AMD FX-4300, 3x AMD FX-8150, 2x AMD FX-8120 125 and 95W, AMD X2 555 BE, AMD x4 965 BE C2 and C3, AMD X4 970 BE, AMD x4 975 BE, AMD x4 980 BE, AMD X6 1090T BE, AMD X6 1100T BE, A10-7870K, Athlon 845, Athlon 860K,AMD A10-7850K, AMD A10-6800K, A8-6600K, 2x AMD A10-5800K, AMD A10-5600K, AMD A8-3850, AMD A8-3870K, 2x AMD A64 3000+, AMD 64+ X2 4600+ EE, Intel i7-980X, Intel i7-2600K, Intel i7-3770K,2x i7-4770K, Intel i7-3930KAMD Cinebench R10 challenge AMD Cinebench R15 thread Intel Cinebench R15 thread

  12. #12
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067
    Was the IHS removal successful?
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

  13. #13
    no sleep, always tired
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Acreage in Iowa, USA
    Posts
    1,833
    I think that some of the MSI boards were coming with shims for the IHS removal people this time around

  14. #14
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    France
    Posts
    8,829
    Quote Originally Posted by Splave View Post
    Team msi removed the ihs at the Intel event. The tim and everything else looks the exact same as Haswell.
    Pretty hard to judge thermal paste by looks... But yeah, it's obviously not solder.
    Donate to XS forums
    Quote Originally Posted by jayhall0315 View Post
    If you are really extreme, you never let informed facts or the scientific method hold you back from your journey to the wrong answer.

  15. #15
    PI in the face
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,084
    Yep success
    Quote Originally Posted by L0ud View Post
    So many opinions and so few screenshots

  16. #16
    XIP
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    5,535
    @ Splave...1 in 20 ratio again or worse?

  17. #17
    PI in the face
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,084
    IDK man out of 130 ES maybe 10 5ghz 1.4v on air cooling 4c8t so far, hope they get better
    Quote Originally Posted by L0ud View Post
    So many opinions and so few screenshots

  18. #18
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    At work
    Posts
    1,381
    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Pretty hard to judge thermal paste by looks... But yeah, it's obviously not solder.
    Soldered chips will have a vent hole in the IHS, chips that aren't soldered don't have this hole. I'm guessing DC is using a ceramique-like paste instead of the normal generic stuff...better, but still not ideal.
    Server: HP Proliant ML370 G6, 2x Xeon X5690, 144GB ECC Registered, 8x OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 240GB on LSi 9265-8i (RAID 0), 12x Seagate Constellation ES.2 3TB SAS on LSi 9280-24i4e (RAID 6) and dual 1200W redundant power supplies.
    Gamer: Intel Core i7 6950X@4.2GHz, Rampage Edition 10, 128GB (8x16GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum 2800MHz, 2x NVidia Titan X (Pascal), Corsair H110i, Vengeance C70 w/Corsair AX1500i, Intel P3700 2TB (boot), Samsung SM961 1TB (Games), 2x Samsung PM1725 6.4TB (11.64TB usable) Windows Software RAID 0 (local storage).
    Beater: Xeon E5-1680 V3, NCase M1, ASRock X99-iTX/ac, 2x32GB Crucial 2400MHz RDIMMs, eVGA Titan X (Maxwell), Samsung 950 Pro 512GB, Corsair SF600, Asetek 92mm AIO water cooler.
    Server/workstation: 2x Xeon E5-2687W V2, Asus Z9PE-D8, 256GB 1866MHz Samsung LRDIMMs (8x32GB), eVGA Titan X (Maxwell), 2x Intel S3610 1.6TB SSD, Corsair AX1500i, Chenbro SR10769, Intel P3700 2TB.

    Thanks for the help (or lack thereof) in resolving my P3700 issue, FUGGER...

  19. #19
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    53
    so air / water results will be the same ?

  20. #20
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067
    Updated again, added air stuff.

    darkage - Air and water would be much different.
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

  21. #21
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    53
    i know its the English you know :-)
    i was trying to ask if it will be the same results average as the last haswell revision for aircooling and watercooling because people started to hope for a 5ghz devil
    sorry man sometimes it wont come out as i am thinking :-)

  22. #22
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067
    Once you get over the vcore increase the 4790K will end up being the faster 24/7 OC chip
    5Ghz is possible on more chips with water cooling for sure.
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

  23. #23
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Bangkok,Thailand (DamHot)
    Posts
    2,690
    I need one with low VCore @ 5.0Ghz on water.
    Intel Core i5 6600K + ASRock Z170 OC Formula + Galax HOF 4000 (8GBx2) + Antec 1200W OC Version
    EK SupremeHF + BlackIce GTX360 + Swiftech 655 + XSPC ResTop
    Macbook Pro 15" Late 2011 (i7 2760QM + HD 6770M)
    Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) , Huawei Nexus 6P
    [history system]80286 80386 80486 Cyrix K5 Pentium133 Pentium II Duron1G Athlon1G E2180 E3300 E5300 E7200 E8200 E8400 E8500 E8600 Q9550 QX6800 X3-720BE i7-920 i3-530 i5-750 Semp140@x2 955BE X4-B55 Q6600 i5-2500K i7-2600K X4-B60 X6-1055T FX-8120 i7-4790K

  24. #24
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    335
    your chip has to be one from that 5 GHz five chips form 130 pcs in intel tray, because in all reviews is maximum 4,7 GHz on air, and my chip is with max around 4,6 GHz

  25. #25
    Xtreme Owner FUGGER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,067
    Don't expect to get 5Ghz on air with a gimpy cooling solution.

    Pushed my chip to 5Ghz for benches, dialing in memory more.

    http://fugger.ipage.com/32mair.PNG
    Intel 7700K @ 5.1Ghz
    ASUS Maximus IX Formula
    ASUS GTX Titan X
    32GB Galax HOF
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    Platimax 1350W
    Enermax 240 Liqtech AOI

    Intel 6950X ES
    Asus Rampage E10
    Asus GTX 980
    32GB HyperX AFR
    Intel 750 SSD 1.2TB
    MaxREVO 1500W
    Dimas Benchtable

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •