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    Over 8300 MHz in Georgia - ASUS Maximus Formula vs Intel Celeron 356

    Hello Dear Overclockers! Some of you may already know - we have small overclocking community in Georgia - Overclockers.ge ( http://www.overclockers.ge ) and we are doing our part in the world of OC. I wish to share our success with you too.

    About two weeks ago, local university organized LGA2011 stock cooler overclocking championship final stage and I decided to show young overclockers how it's all about extreme OC. That time local frequency record was 7350 MHz, I decided to break it.

    First time I used Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard and despite its pretty unpredictable nature, I managed to tame it and done 7999 MHz - http://hwbot.org/submission/2519435_

    At the university OC championship, Gigabyte MB refused to turn on at all. To compensate for that, after 3 days I decided to make a livestreaming OC event, this time with my old ASUS Maximus Formula. MB is quite old, with RMA on its history once and changed chipset, which loves a bit higher voltages than normal for stability. I expected to just jump over my previous 7999, get in 8000 MHz league and show young overclockers everything in live event.

    Here are the Hardware used:
    MB: ASUS Maximus Formula (X38 Chipset) - Flashed Rampage Formula BIOS, Unmodded Stock MB, no Vdroop, Vcore, OVP mods
    CPU: Intel Celeron 356 - Batch: 5634B341
    Pot: Kingpin Cooling Dragon F1
    TIM: GC Extreme
    RAM: 1 x Team Xtreem 512 MB, Micron D9GMH
    GPU: Zotac GeForce 9500 GT
    PSU 1: Inter-Tech CobaNitroX 750 Watts
    PSU 2: Codegen 350 Watts - for fans only
    Thermometer: UEi DT304 Apollo IV
    OS: Totally stripped down WinXP SP3
    and LN2 ofc.


    But then my old Maximus Formula begin making wonders... Booted flawlessly @ 8000 MHz and made higher results possible - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520651_

    Then it was 8133 MHz - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520654_
    Then 8262 - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520655_
    8292 - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520656_
    Breaking 8300 MHz barrier - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520658_
    And the top result for the day - 8322 MHz - http://hwbot.org/submission/2520659_



    The result has been a great success for our community.

    Considering that the CPU is unlapped and MB is stock, there seems to be some room for improvements. I plan to lap CPU and pot, do Vdroop mod to MB and try again. As of Loadline Calibration it gave worse results. 8322 MHz was done with Loadline Calibration disabled.

    Here you can watch the 3-hour session on Youtube:



    Here are the pics taken during the event:




























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    How many Cedarmill CPUs have you binned before you found this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaPaKaH View Post
    How many Cedarmill CPUs have you binned before you found this one?
    Not one. It was good luck. Few years ago I exchanged my pentium 640 for this cpu with my friend's friend.
    Achieved just 7350 Mhz:
    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1176480
    I'm AMD-man and before never overclocked intel 775 socket.

    And now Vano with his very good skill make this fantastic job.

    Congrats again and keep it up, my friend!
    Last edited by OgaiB; 03-27-2014 at 09:57 PM.


    CPU : AMD X2 5200+ @ 3Ghz
    Motherboard : EPOX EP-AF590 SLI2 with Thermalright HR-05 IFX SLI
    CPU Cooler : Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with Noctua NF-P12
    Videocard : XFX 8600GT Fatal1ty Edition @ 700/1800Mhz
    DDR : Teem Xtreem PC-6400 2X1GB @ 4-4-4-8 / 500Mhz
    HDD : Sata II - 2 X Seagate 250GB ST3250410AS 16MB cach in RAID 0 ; IDE - Seagate 160GB, WD 80GB
    PSU : Chieftec 600 Watt, +12V Combined 48A - CTF-600-14CS
    CASE : Chieftec AEGIS CX-05B-B with 4 X Scythe SLIP STREAM SY1225SL12M controled by
    Scythe Kaze Master 5.25 @ 1000RPM; 3 X Noctua NF-B9 @ 1000RPM
    Monitor : HP L1740
    speacker : Logitech X-230

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgaiB View Post
    Not one. It was good luck. Few years ago I exchanged my pentium 640 for this cpu with my friend's friend.
    Achieved just 7350 Mhz:
    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1176480
    I'm AMD-man and before never overclocked intel 775 socket.

    And now Vano with his very good skill make this fantastic job.

    Congrats again and keep it up, my friend!
    Lucky man!!! Awesome score! GJ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaPaKaH View Post
    How many Cedarmill CPUs have you binned before you found this one?
    Yes, OgaiB is right, it was the lucky batch one. Actually it is the same batch as wytiwx got in his 8352.86 Mhz result here: http://hwbot.org/submission/2351215_...56_8352.86_mhz

    I also have second 356, 2 - 360s, 347, 341 but they all have Cold Bugs and are nowhere near this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananerbe View Post
    Lucky man!!! Awesome score! GJ!
    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by OgaiB View Post
    And now Vano with his very good skill make this fantastic job.

    Congrats again and keep it up, my friend!
    Thank you, thank you!

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    Great job, Power_VANO, 8300+ MHz on Intel is awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    You can never have enough D9's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_VANO View Post
    Yes, OgaiB is right, it was the lucky batch one. Actually it is the same batch as wytiwx got in his 8352.86 Mhz result here: http://hwbot.org/submission/2351215_...56_8352.86_mhz
    Looks like the batch is the One
    Maybe one can find another golden chip.
    on air





    on H2O

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    Quote Originally Posted by utilizatori View Post
    Looks like the batch is the One
    Maybe one can find another golden chip.
    5634B341 is a very good batch, if I recall correctly Brian y.'s CPU is from the same batch.

    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    You can never have enough D9's.

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    Brian's 8213 chip was 5634B348 (2L639797xxxxx) and he also had a 8004 chip of batch 5634B391 (2L632573xxxxx).
    mtech had 8015 out of 5634B327 (2L639806xxxxx), wytiwx had 8228 out of 5634B339 and 8352 out of 5634B341 (2L639623A0269), Andre had his 8182 out of a 5634B as well.

    My personal experience with 5634B D0 is as follows: 8211 out of 5634B267 (35621222A0425, 5600 air), 7484 out of 5634B321 (2L611580A1004, 5325 air), 7665 out of 5634B327 (2L639620A0926, 5375 air) and 6800 out of 5634B341 (2L639805A2137, 5150 air) so not all of these are golden, you usually only see good ones ever posted online.

    You can't imagine how lucky you are to find a 8300+ chip on what basically is your first try.
    I have gone through over 300 chips (most of which were from good batches) back in 2008-2011 and only managed to find four capable of 8000+ with best being 8211 (later degraded to 8150-8170). My 8308 result was actually made with a CPU I borrowed from K404 who bought it by accident (together with another 8100+ chip, lol) after having gone only through a couple dozen chips himself.
    Smoke has also been binning Cedarmills back in the day, after ~100 random chips and no 8GHz he ended up borrowing some of mine.

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    Thanks for correcting me, that means my list is wrong too.

    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    You can never have enough D9's.

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    Binning over 300 Cedar Mills is impressive only on its own!

    Yes, really a lot of luck to find 8300+ Mhz one. What I knew from pre-tests was that the chip did not have CB or CBB at max LN2 temps and it was from a good batch. Really did not expect it to go so high

    Now preparing for another session with Vdroop mod to MB and changing PSU for better one, with less ripple on rails. Maybe it will do the job and result improves.


    Quote Originally Posted by Don_Dan View Post
    Great job, Power_VANO, 8300+ MHz on Intel is awesome!
    Thanks!

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    Unbelievable, great work guys can't wait to see 8.5+
    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    gskillllin it!

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