POOR Performance ZALMAN RESERATOR MAX 3 DUAL !! MAX temp 96 C with 3770K def clock...

[Gaul]

THE SUPER COOLER ( I HOPE BEFORE )

[Gaul]

LETS START












don't forget the fan

[Gaul]

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- USE MX-4 PASTE
- Thermal paste was print perfectly on the top of the IHS, then no issue about missed-place with the waterblock



i've tried everything, start from small rice drop, vertical pattern, put thin layer over the entire IHS and in the picture the last one i'll try and shoot. but the result is similiar

[Gaul]

RIG
- i7 3770K @ def clock aka clear CMOS
- MSI z77 GD-65 GAMING
- PLATINUM 1000 watt Seasonic
- 8 GB RAM 2666 tridentx

OS
- WIN 7 64 BIT

SOFTWARE
- Hyper PI 0.99b
- CPUZ 1.68.0.x64
- Real Temp 3.70

[tool_462]

I know it won't be the entire cause of 96C, but I use about 1/8th that much MX-5 with excellent results...

[Gaul]

sorry 4 my bad english

i've tried everything, start from small rice drop, vertical pattern, put thin layer over the entire IHS and in the picture the last one i'll try and shoot. but the result is similiar

[Gaul]

RESULT


Question is,
Do i got defect ones or i missed something here ?

[Mobsters]

Tried using just air cooler?

[Elloquin]

Looks like you are using the cpu fan header with PWM. Make sure the BIOS is set to 100% in the profile. Otherwise that pump might be running really slow...

[Sparky]

That or bypass using the motherboard connection altogether.

Zalman's water cooling setups have always left a lot to be desired in the past.

[Gaul]

Tried using just air cooler?

here, with intel stock cooler, MX-4 paste

Looks like you are using the cpu fan header with PWM. Make sure the BIOS is set to 100% in the profile. Otherwise that pump might be running really slow...

Use auto setting for fan speed coz CLEAR CMOS, not 100 % BUT im sure Fan already full speed, you can hear Very Loud

That or bypass using the motherboard connection altogether.

Zalman's water cooling setups have always left a lot to be desired in the past.

already bybass WB 3pin to 4 pin molex, and still similiar result around 92-94 C with hyper pi.
but fan still use mobo 4 pin, coz already full speed

[NKrader]

I know it won't be the entire cause of 96C, but I use about 1/8th that much MX-5 with excellent results...

yes, i was thinking that that was ALOT of tim.

Zalman's water cooling setups have always left a lot to be desired in the past.

yeah i dont know what people are expecting with zalman products.

they have always looked really technical and preformed mediocre at best.





and OP, i have my 4930k running at 4.5ghz at those same temps with an h80i.. if your numbers are way off of reviews of the zalman product then i would rma, those numbers look worse than most air coolers and thats not right. everything your doing with mounting looks fine, abit too much TIM but that shouldnt do that to temps.

is it sitting tight? from the looks of the heatsink after removal it doesnt look like the heatsink gets really tight. the tim is really thick like it didnt get pushed out of the way. if i did that my my setup the tim would be alot lighter in the cpu area as the pressure would squeeze most of it out.

[Gaul]

@ ALL = tested without CPU, WB 3 pin with molex and fan with 100 % speed [ set BIOS profile ] LOUD HERE
run for +/- 20 minutes



RAD with cool temp

and


but when i touch WB cooper its around 37-39 C temp, its warm


WELL, is that normal ? any advice ?

[Gaul]

is it sitting tight? from the looks of the heatsink after removal it doesnt look like the heatsink gets really tight. the tim is really thick like it didnt get pushed out of the way. if i did that my my setup the tim would be alot lighter in the cpu area as the pressure would squeeze most of it out.

im pretty sure its tight

[Sparky]

Sounds like that integrated pump throws a fair bit of heat. That surface shouldn't be warm like that in a well designed system.

[Gaul]

Sounds like that integrated pump throws a fair bit of heat. That surface shouldn't be warm like that in a well designed system.

yup, the bad news is the cooler can't RMA

[Stewie007]

You could have a defective unit. Does it not come with a warranty?

What are your Flow rates?

[Gaul]

You could have a defective unit. Does it not come with a warranty?

What are your Flow rates?

Too bad ZALMAN USA ZALMAN TECH DISCLAIMS ALL OTHER WARRANTIES AND CONDITIONS, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, STATUTORY
OR OTHERWISE, FOR THE PRODUCT. FOR U.S. CUSTOMERS only
and ZALMAN USA said they don't have MAX 3 DUAL
* buy at korea with my family on vacation
SEOUL, Yongsan, Sunin Plaza, Comoasis Store, anyone read korean ?
7 March 2014, price 147.000 WON


then i'll send email to ZALMAN KOREA but they not REPLAY
even i ask to ZALMAN USA about ZALMAN KOREA addres ZALMAN USA did not replay too

[Stewie007]

Well, no warranty or support means that you either buy a different unit, or take it apart and examine.

[Gaul]

Well, no warranty or support means that you either buy a different unit, or take it apart and examine.

You right, but i didn't know ZALMAN policy before this, if i knew then i wouldn't buy or even touch it. MY BAD
but i look forward for Zalman KOREA reply my email, before take a part and examine

Does anyone know ZALMAN RESERATOR MAX 3 DUAL review? plz give me the link. if u don't mind

[Smalltimer]

LETS START

That is waaaaay to much thermal paste on that surface.
Keeping in mind that the paste should only bridge both surfaces by eliminating air gaps between them, I'd say this amount is likely creating a thermal barrier = more heat.

[Gaul]

That is waaaaay to much thermal paste on that surface.
Keeping in mind that the paste should only bridge both surfaces by eliminating air gaps between them, I'd say this amount is likely creating a thermal barrier = more heat.

that's my last shoot, thx to remind me

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i've tried everything, start from small rice drop, vertical pattern, put thin layer over the entire IHS and in the picture the last one i'll try and shoot. but the result is similiar

[Gaul]

@ all = with metode thin layer over the entire IHS, use MX-4 paste

[washu9]

Judging from the fact that the block on top of the CPU (with the integrated pump) is actually heating up just by turning it on, we can safely say there's only 5 things that can go wrong here.

Current condition we know of from your description of the problem:
the pump is running, but not pumping fluid (the heat doesn't get transferred to the radiator), probable due to:

1. Since you're connecting the pump into the MB, you may want to check the MB BIOS for fan speed control. Make sure it's on either Standard or Turbo profile (not silent). If the pump is on PWM control, having it on silent profile would barely make the pump operate. Best way to test this one is just to connect the pump to a standard molex plug from the PSU using an adapter instead of connecting it to the MB.

(NVM this one, just noticed you already taken this possibility into consideration.)

2. a stuck air pocket in the pump - in which case, when you shake/turn it from side to side, it should have dislodged already. So highly unlikely unless the channels are way too small. In which case, you need to use something like a syringe to force fluid into the pump and dislodge that air pocket.

3. faulty pump - it's just plain broken. Won't spin to pump the fluid, but still generating heat.

4. there is no fluid in the first place. They forgot to put fluid in when they assembled it or it leaked out.

5. there is something in the tubing/radiator that is preventing flow. Sometimes during construction, metal shavings get into the rads. If they didn't flush it out, it may damage pumps and/or introduce blockage.

In any case, since RMA is out of the question, you just need to test each theory one by one. Starting with ones that doesn't require dismantling the unit. At this point, I don't think you can just try remounting it over and over again.
The temps is just way off. Something is wrong with the reserator. We just need to know what.

[Gaul]

@^ = thanks for the input, but I am still waiting for a reply email from ZALMAN korea, I worried that I opened this ZALMAN. they refused my RMA or void warranty

1. Since you're connecting the pump into the MB, you may want to check the MB BIOS for fan speed control. Make sure it's on either Standard or Turbo profile (not silent). If the pump is on PWM control, having it on silent profile would barely make the pump operate. Best way to test this one is just to connect the pump to a standard molex plug from the PSU using an adapter instead of connecting it to the MB.

(NVM this one, just noticed you already taken this possibility into consideration.)

to this point, I've done it "connect the pump to a standard molex plug from the PSU using an adapter"