2500k or 3570k on Prometeia Mach 2 single stage phase change?

[StarvationPlan]

Hello everyone!

My overclocking and gaming urges are slowly getting the best of me.

I have been out of the game for a long time and hoping that I could get some help regarding this decision.

I am trying to get the processor with the best performance for gaming.

The only real performance challenge the processor would get is gaming sessions for a few hours every now and then.

The old prommy is currently not upgraded, but may be in the future.

A used 2500k or 3570k seem to be the best performance for their price.

Which one would give the best performance of the two? Am I missing a better option for less or the same money?

From what I can understand Ivy often achieves higher frequency with extreme cooling, but this is with LN2 and my old prommy is no way near that temperature.

How are the yields with 3570k compared to 2500k?

Were the cold bug with 2500k only in the beginning? I see an awful lot of them above 5.5ghz on hwbot.

How does the 2500k vs. 3570k compare frequency wise with all cores running stable on the rather weak phase-change cooling that a Prommy is?

Am I missing any other parameter for gaming performance other than IPC and clock between the 2500k and 3570k?

Does one or the other degrade faster even though run properly cold?

I have also read that a lot of Ivy bridge cpus degrade and loose memory channels by being run without IHS. Is this true on single stage phase-change as well?

Thank you in advance for the help and sincere apologies for any foolish questions or wrong postings. I have been out of the game for too long .

[Dumo]

2500K will be ideal for your prommy (as long as it still work properly with no leak).

Depending on how high the chip can go, average sandy bridge can scale beetween 5.2Ghz~5.8Ghz with -20~-30ishC on evaporator temp.

[StarvationPlan]

Thank you for the answer Dumo.

Would there by any down or up-side choosing one over the other?

Or should I just go for which ever I find cheapest?

[Ace123]

I have a 2500k brand new in the box never opened for 150 if you want it.

[StarvationPlan]

Thank you for the offer Ace123 but I am holding out for a similar deal that was here up until yesterday. 3770K for 150 USD.

You can PM me if you are willing to go lower on the 2500k.

All other questions in the thread still stands .

[flesheatinvirus]

The Sandy can scale higher but the Ivy has a better IMC, I am typing this on a sandy right now on chilled water at 5500mhz.

[StarvationPlan]

Thank you for your input flesheatinvirus,

Since gaming peformance is the main goal and other areas is a bonus, better IMC may not make a big difference?

Is it still so that dual channel RAM overclock is lower than single channel? Is there a difference between Ivy and Sandy when it comes to channels or purely frequency?

I shall read up on the IMC difference, thank you for letting me know!

[flesheatinvirus]

With an Ivy you could run a much higher ram speed provided you get one with a solid IMC,

[lutjens]

What do you plan to use for a mounting kit? Is someone making compatible kits for Prommys that work with new CPUs?

[Dumo]

Heres the mounting kit from Duniek http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-Kits-New-Line