Mainboard
GIGABYTE F2A88X-UP4
BIOS F4
Processor
AMD A10 7850K
Cooler
coolermaster V8
Graphics Cards
5870
7870
7970
R9290X
Memory
CORSAIR DOMINATORS PLAT 2133 2X4GB
TEAM GROUP 2666MHZ 2X4GB
Power Supply Unit
THERMALTAKE toughpower XT GOLD 1375w
Monitor
ASUS VK246H
OS related Software
Windows 7 64-bit SP1
DirectX 9/10/11 latest End User Runtime
cat 13.30beta
Software benchmark suite
SiSoft Sandra
Aida64 extreme
WPRIME
sisoft sandra
PCmark 8
x264 benchmark
3DMark01
3DMark03
3DMark05
3DMark06
3DMark Vantage
3DMark 11
3DMark 2013
CineBENCH 11.5
CineBENCH R15
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider DX11
Bioshock infinite DX11
Sleeping dogs
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SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Aggregate Native Performance : 63.14GOPS
Dhrystone Integer Native SSE4.2 : 93GIPS
Whetstone Float Native SSE4.1 : 48.86GFLOPS
Whetstone Double Native SSE4.1 : 37.61GFLOPS
Whetstone Float/Double Native : 42.87GFLOPS
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.
Performance per Thread
Aggregate Native Performance : 15.78GOPS
Dhrystone Integer Native SSE4.2 : 23.25GIPS
Whetstone Float Native SSE4.1 : 12.21GFLOPS
Whetstone Double Native SSE4.1 : 9.4GFLOPS
Whetstone Float/Double Native : 10.72GFLOPS
No. Threads : 4
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.
Performance vs. Speed
Aggregate Native Performance : 13.80MOPS/MHz
Dhrystone Integer Native SSE4.2 : 20.32MIPS/MHz
Whetstone Float Native SSE4.1 : 10.68MFLOPS/MHz
Whetstone Double Native SSE4.1 : 8.22MFLOPS/MHz
Whetstone Float/Double Native : 9.37MFLOPS/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics (2M 4T 4.58GHz, 4.12GHz IMC, 2x 2MB L2)
Computer : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Platform Compliance : x64
SMP (Multi-Processor) Enabled : Yes
NUMA Support : No
No. Threads : 4
Processor Affinity : U0-M0T0 U2-M1T0 U1-M0T1 U3-M1T1
System Timer : 4.47MHz
No. Runs : 64000 / 640
Processor
Model : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics
Speed : 4.58GHz (99%)
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Speed : 2GHz - 4.58GHz - 4.58GHz
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 36.64GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 11WG
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Cores per Compute Unit : 2 Unit(s)
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Type : Laptop/Netbook
Revision/Stepping : 30 / 1
Microcode : MU6F300103
Latest Version : MU6F300104
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 4x 16kB, 4-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size
L1I (1st Level) Code Cache : 2x 96kB, 3-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 2x 2MB, ECC, 16-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
Memory Controller
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Speed : 4.12GHz
Features
SSE - Streaming SIMD Extensions : Yes
SSE2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v2 : Yes
SSE3 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v3 : Yes
SSSE3 - Supplemental SSE3 : Yes
SSE4.1 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.1 : Yes
SSE4.2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.2 : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 241 : Dynamic OverClocking/Turbo enabled. Performance may not be consistent and may not match expectations!
Warning 227 : CPU FSB speed higher than rated FSB! Reduce FSB speed.
Tip 229 : CPU microcode update available. Check for an updated System BIOS with updated microcode.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Aggregate Memory Performance : 16.72GB/s
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 16.65GB/s
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 16.79GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.
Benchmark Timings
Time to Copy Capacity : 479?s
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance per Thread
Aggregate Memory Performance : 8.36GB/s
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 16.65GB/s
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 16.79GB/s
No. Threads : 2
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.
Performance vs. Power
Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 12.450W
Aggregate Memory Performance : 1374.94MB/s/W
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 1369.40MB/s/W
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 1380.56MB/s/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Capacity vs. Power
Memory Capacity : 658MB/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance vs. Speed
Aggregate Memory Performance : 7.01MB/s/MHz
Integer Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 6.98MB/s/MHz
Float Memory Bandwidth B/F SSE2/128 : 7.04MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Integer Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 16.71GB/s
Scaling : 16.17GB/s
Addition : 16.81GB/s
Triad : 16.9GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 42.47%
Float Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 16.72GB/s
Scaling : 16.52GB/s
Addition : 17GB/s
Triad : 17GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 42.69%
Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge; 2x 4GB Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 DDR3 SO-DIMM (2.44GHz 14% OC 128-bit) PC3-17100 (12-16-16-42 8-58-18-10)
Computer : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Platform Compliance : x64
Total Memory : 6GB
Memory Used by Test : 2GB
No. Threads : 2
Processor Affinity : U0-M0T0 U2-M1T0
System Timer : 4.47MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Features
SSE - Streaming SIMD Extensions : Yes
SSE2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v2 : Yes
SSE3 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v3 : Yes
SSSE3 - Supplemental SSE3 : Yes
SSE4.1 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.1 : Yes
SSE4.2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.2 : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
Computer
Name : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Computer BIOS : F4
Chipset
Model : AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 916MB/s
Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 1 : 4GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 12-16-16-42 8-58-18-10 4T
Bank 13 : 4GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 12-16-16-42 8-58-18-10 4T
Channels : 2
Width : 128-bit
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 1.22GHz (2.44GHz)
Multiplier : 32/6x
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 38.16GB/s
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 5400 : Low bandwidth efficiency (advanced). Check memory timings and settings.
Warning 5010 : Cannot use Large Memory Pages due to lack of privileges.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Transactional Throughput : 5.11MTPS
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.
Modify/Read Factor : 0.60
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Lock : Hardware (HLE)
Performance per Thread
Transactional Throughput : 2.56MTPS
No. Threads : 2
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1GOPS = 1000MOPS, 1MOPS = 1000kOPS, 1kOPS = 1000OPS, etc.
Performance vs. Speed
Transactional Throughput : 1.12kTPS/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Detailed Results
Modify Probability (0.00) : 3MTPS
Modify Probability (0.04) : 5MTPS
Modify Probability (0.08) : 5.18MTPS
Modify Probability (0.12) : 5.45MTPS
Modify Probability (0.16) : 5.64MTPS
Modify Probability (0.20) : 5.6MTPS
Modify Probability (0.30) : 5.56MTPS
Modify Probability (0.40) : 5.49MTPS
Modify Probability (0.50) : 5.34MTPS
Modify Probability (0.60) : 5.3MTPS
Modify Probability (0.80) : 5.24MTPS
Modify Probability (1.00) : 5.17MTPS
Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics (2M 4T 4.58GHz, 4.12GHz IMC, 2x 2MB L2) (Hardware (HLE))
Computer : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Platform Compliance : x64
No. Threads : 2
Processor Affinity : U0-M0T0 U2-M1T0
System Timer : 4.47MHz
Update : Database Transactional
Processor
Model : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics
Speed : 4.58GHz (99%)
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Speed : 2GHz - 4.58GHz - 4.58GHz
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 36.64GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 11WG
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Cores per Compute Unit : 2 Unit(s)
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Type : Laptop/Netbook
Revision/Stepping : 30 / 1
Microcode : MU6F300103
Latest Version : MU6F300104
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 4x 16kB, 4-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size
L1I (1st Level) Code Cache : 2x 96kB, 3-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 2x 2MB, ECC, 16-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
Memory Controller
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Speed : 4.12GHz
Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 241 : Dynamic OverClocking/Turbo enabled. Performance may not be consistent and may not match expectations!
Warning 227 : CPU FSB speed higher than rated FSB! Reduce FSB speed.
Tip 229 : CPU microcode update available. Check for an updated System BIOS with updated microcode.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Memory Latency : 71.6ns
Decimal Numeral System (base 10) : 1s = 1000ms, 1ms = 1000?s, 1?s = 1000ns, etc.
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 4.0clocks
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 19.0clocks
Speed Factor : 81.80
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance vs. Power
Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 6.230W
Memory Latency : 11.49ns/W
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Capacity vs. Power
Memory Capacity : 657.46MB/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance vs. Speed
Memory Latency : 0.03ns/MHz
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Detailed Results
2kB Range : 0.9ns / 4.0clocks
4kB Range : 0.9ns / 4.0clocks
8kB Range : 0.9ns / 4.0clocks
16kB Range : 0.9ns / 4.0clocks
32kB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
64kB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
128kB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
256kB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
512kB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
1MB Range : 4.2ns / 19.0clocks
2MB Range : 8.3ns / 38.0clocks
4MB Range : 71.4ns / 327.0clocks
8MB Range : 71.5ns / 327.0clocks
16MB Range : 71.5ns / 327.0clocks
32MB Range : 71.5ns / 327.0clocks
64MB Range : 71.5ns / 327.0clocks
256MB Range : 71.5ns / 327.0clocks
1GB Range : 71.6ns / 327.0clocks
Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge; 4GB Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 DDR3 SO-DIMM (2.44GHz 14% OC 64-bit) PC3-17100 (12-16-16-42 8-58-18-10)
Computer : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Platform Compliance : x64
No. Threads : 2
Processor Affinity : U0-M0T0 U2-M1T0
System Timer : 4.47MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Access Pattern : In-Page Random Access Pattern
Type : Global Data Memory
Processor
Model : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics
Speed : 4.58GHz (99%)
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Speed : 2GHz - 4.58GHz - 4.58GHz
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 36.64GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 11WG
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Cores per Compute Unit : 2 Unit(s)
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Type : Laptop/Netbook
Revision/Stepping : 30 / 1
Microcode : MU6F300103
Latest Version : MU6F300104
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 4x 16kB, 4-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size
L1I (1st Level) Code Cache : 2x 96kB, 3-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 2x 2MB, ECC, 16-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
Memory Controller
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Speed : 4.12GHz
Computer
Name : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Computer BIOS : F4
Chipset
Model : AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 916MB/s
Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 5 : 4GB DDR3 SO-DIMM 12-16-16-42 8-58-18-10 4T
Channels : 1
Width : 64-bit
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 1.22GHz (2.44GHz)
Multiplier : 32/6x
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 19.08GB/s
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 5010 : Cannot use Large Memory Pages due to lack of privileges.
Warning 241 : Dynamic OverClocking/Turbo enabled. Performance may not be consistent and may not match expectations!
Warning 227 : CPU FSB speed higher than rated FSB! Reduce FSB speed.
Tip 229 : CPU microcode update available. Check for an updated System BIOS with updated microcode.
Warning 2531 : Single memory channel may not provide enough bandwidth.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Cache/Memory Bandwidth SSE2/128 : 78.62GB/s
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 335.57GB/s
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 192.76GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.
Benchmark Results
Speed Factor : 26.30
Results Interpretation : Lower Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance per Thread
Cache/Memory Bandwidth : 19.65GB/s
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 83.89GB/s
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 48.19GB/s
No. Threads : 4
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Binary Numeral System (base 2) : 1GB(/s) = 1024MB(/s), 1MB(/s) = 1024kB(/s), 1kB(/s) = 1024 bytes(/s), etc.
Performance vs. Power
Processor(s)/Chipset(s)/Memory Power : 6.790W
Cache/Memory Bandwidth SSE2/128 : 11856.55MB/s/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Capacity vs. Power
Total Cache Size : 612.67kB/W
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Performance vs. Speed
Cache/Memory Bandwidth SSE2/128 : 17.59MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher Scores mean Better Performance.
Cache/Memory Results Breakdown
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : No
Offset Displacement : Yes
Detailed Results
2kB Data Set : 338.72GB/s (281.68GB/s - 338.72GB/s)
4kB Data Set : 342.3GB/s (269GB/s - 342.3GB/s)
8kB Data Set : 340.89GB/s (250.56GB/s - 340.89GB/s)
16kB Data Set : 335.89GB/s (239.1GB/s - 335.89GB/s)
32kB Data Set : 320GB/s (231.64GB/s - 320GB/s)
64kB Data Set : 291.19GB/s (162.09GB/s - 291.19GB/s)
128kB Data Set : 203GB/s (148.5GB/s - 203GB/s)
256kB Data Set : 196.82GB/s (124.92GB/s - 196.82GB/s)
512kB Data Set : 195.36GB/s (143.8GB/s - 195.36GB/s)
1MB Data Set : 192.65GB/s (142.8GB/s - 192.65GB/s)
2MB Data Set : 176GB/s (125.48GB/s - 176GB/s)
4MB Data Set : 109.83GB/s (75.24GB/s - 109.83GB/s)
8MB Data Set : 17.37GB/s (16.19GB/s - 17.37GB/s)
16MB Data Set : 17.12GB/s (16GB/s - 17.12GB/s)
64MB Data Set : 16.71GB/s (15.66GB/s - 16.71GB/s)
256MB Data Set : 15.89GB/s (14.71GB/s - 15.89GB/s)
1GB Data Set : 13GB/s (11.92GB/s - 13GB/s)
Benchmark Status
Result ID : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics (2M 4T 4.58GHz, 4.12GHz IMC, 2x 2MB L2); AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge; 8GB Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 DIMM DDR3 (1.33GHz) PC3-17100 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Computer : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Platform Compliance : x64
Total Memory : 6GB
No. Threads : 4
Processor Affinity : U0-M0T0 U2-M1T0 U1-M0T1 U3-M1T1
System Timer : 4.47MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Processor
Model : AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics
Speed : 4.58GHz (99%)
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Speed : 2GHz - 4.58GHz - 4.58GHz
Peak Processing Performance (PPP) : 36.64GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) : 11WG
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Cores per Compute Unit : 2 Unit(s)
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Type : Laptop/Netbook
Revision/Stepping : 30 / 1
Microcode : MU6F300103
Latest Version : MU6F300104
L1D (1st Level) Data Cache : 4x 16kB, 4-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size
L1I (1st Level) Code Cache : 2x 96kB, 3-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
L2 (2nd Level) Data/Unified Cache : 2x 2MB, ECC, 16-Way, Exclusive, 64bytes Line Size, 2 Thread(s)
Memory Controller
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Speed : 4.12GHz
Features
SSE - Streaming SIMD Extensions : Yes
SSE2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v2 : Yes
SSE3 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v3 : Yes
SSSE3 - Supplemental SSE3 : Yes
SSE4.1 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.1 : Yes
SSE4.2 - Streaming SIMD Extensions v4.2 : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
Computer
Name : GigaByte F2A88X-UP4
Computer BIOS : F4
Chipset
Model : AMD PCI standard host CPU bridge
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 229MHz
Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 916MB/s
Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 1 : 4GB DIMM DDR3
Bank 3 : 4GB DIMM DDR3
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 666MHz (1.33GHz)
Integrated in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CMD8GX3M2A2133C9 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-17100U DDR3-2134 (9-9-9-25 4-33-10-5)
Performance Enhancing Tips
Warning 5010 : Cannot use Large Memory Pages due to lack of privileges.
Warning 241 : Dynamic OverClocking/Turbo enabled. Performance may not be consistent and may not match expectations!
Warning 227 : CPU FSB speed higher than rated FSB! Reduce FSB speed.
Tip 229 : CPU microcode update available. Check for an updated System BIOS with updated microcode.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
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