Haswell E and X99 to launch in 3rd Quarter...

[Zaxx]

Intel is set to release its first eight-core processors for desktops, the Haswell-E series in the third quarter of 2014 priced at around US$1,000. The new series will succeed the existing Ivy Bridge-E, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

Intel will also release its next-generation high-end chipsets, the X99 to pair with the processors, the sources noted.

Source: DigiTimes


Intel is planning to launch its 4th generation Core i7 HEDT (high-end desktop) platform, codenamed "Haswell-E," in the third quarter of 2014 (after June), which should space its launch roughly a year from Core i7 "Ivy Bridge-E." With Haswell-E, Intel is expected to increase core counts across the board, launching an "affordable" six-core part around the $400 mark, an eight-core part around the $600 mark, and an Extreme Edition eight-core part around the $1,000 mark.

Source: TPU


Nice...a $400 6 core for us broke bastards...lol

[Ace123]

Umm...I think your title should be
"Haswell E and X99 to launch in 3rd Quarter..."

[tajoh111]

You got the title kind of wrong. You should switch it to haswell E.

If only the performance increase is decent, the 8 core variant might sort of be worth it this time. Earlier the price for 2 more cores for Intel, let alone 4 has been 300 dollars over their more mainstream counterparts.

The 6 core is actually a decent price too. E.g Intel charging 70 dollars for 2 more cores rather than the near double the price for 2 more cores is kind of a good value for them.

However, haswell itself isn't an impressive performer for desktop platforms. Its good for laptops because of the power savings but for desktops, it kind of seems unimpressive.

[bearcatrp]

The 8 core will be my next cruncher provided its above 3Ghz for the $600 one.

[Chrono Detector]

Interested in the new chipset, the X99 and what it offers.

[zalbard]

The 8 core will be my next cruncher provided its above 3Ghz for the $600 one.

You can (should!) always overclock it, all of these chips come unlocked.

[Zaxx]

Doh...my bad...thanx for pointing that out fellas.

"...with support for up to ten SATA 6 Gb/s ports, and a large number of USB 3.0 ports."

That's what made me grin...as you can tell from my sig, I'm all out of sata 2 and 3 ports...already have the spinners on a pcie card. Hopefully the P97 will sport the same number of ports...thing that has me most interested is that m.2 pcie will be supported so there will be worthy accommodation for SandForce SF-3700 based m.2 drives (1.8GB/s r/w). Not all of us can afford/justify dropping 300-400 bucks on a good raid card.

[Iconyu]

Damn it, I swore to myself I'd hold out until Skylake-E, as much as I like the idea of Haswell-E I don't want to be a DDR4 early adopter on top of the CPU and Mobo premium, but X99 sounds so much nicer than my old X79...

[FlanK3r]

there is original thread...This info is not new :-/

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...esktop-monster!

[TimPrice]

there is original thread...This info is not new :-/

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...esktop-monster!

There's new 'info' in it, speculations mostly.

...an eight-core part around the $600 mark

If that's true, I'm in, finally! I have a c2d lol

[Zaxx]

I don't want to be a DDR4 early adopter...

That's probably the biggest drawback for sure.

[Heinz68]

My upgrade goal for next month is:
ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition
Intel Core i7-4930K
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB)

Now it makes me think if I should not wait for the Haswell E and X99, since all in my upgrade will become obsolete including the mobo and ram, so soon.

[Tenknics]

I wish this was true. I don't see Intel releasing this until Q4 or later. Every E has had more that 18 between each..Why is Haswell any different?

Also, the only 8-core is going to be $1,000 EE version..Unless there is news of a "mid-range" 8-core for $600 like they did for the 6-cores..

[Vicey]

I was hoping the 5930K would be an 8 Core but it doesn't seem like that is on the cards. I can understand why though, Intel just doesn't feel the heat from AMD in these high end markets so why not make the eight core processor an X series for $999? People who really want it will pay that price myself included. It sucks but it is what it is.

I really wish Intel hadn't of locked down the E5 XEON's or I would have picked up a 12 core E5-2697 v2 and not even care about Haswell-E i7's.

[Iconyu]

I wish this was true. I don't see Intel releasing this until Q4 or later. Every E has had more that 18 between each..Why is Haswell any different?

Also, the only 8-core is going to be $1,000 EE version..Unless there is news of a "mid-range" 8-core for $600 like they did for the 6-cores..

I was hoping the 5930K would be an 8 Core but it doesn't seem like that is on the cards. I can understand why though, Intel just doesn't feel the heat from AMD in these high end markets so why not make the eight core processor an X series for $999? People who really want it will pay that price myself included. It sucks but it is what it is.

I really wish Intel hadn't of locked down the E5 XEON's or I would have picked up a 12 core E5-2697 v2 and not even care about Haswell-E i7's.

The first post says $400 for 6 core, $600 for 8 core and $1000 for extreme edition, that doesn't seem very far fetched right now, especially when you consider IvyBridge-E is being built as a 6 core. It seems realistic for Intel to go with this pricing model, and Intel seems very aware of how profitable putting the right chip right at the edge of acceptable cost can be.

[tajoh111]

I was hoping the 5930K would be an 8 Core but it doesn't seem like that is on the cards. I can understand why though, Intel just doesn't feel the heat from AMD in these high end markets so why not make the eight core processor an X series for $999? People who really want it will pay that price myself included. It sucks but it is what it is.

I really wish Intel hadn't of locked down the E5 XEON's or I would have picked up a 12 core E5-2697 v2 and not even care about Haswell-E i7's.

Intel arrogance has made it so, although AMD doesn't play a threat at all in this segment, their own processors do.

With the small increases in performance lately for Intels enthusiast line, they have given people little incentive to upgrade over their previous platform.

Intel is its own worst enemy at decreasing sales of newly release products. Ivy bridge E reviews, although they obliterated AMD in performance, the reviews came out negative in the end. The reason being, they present almost no performance increase over sandy-bridge E. Add in they clocked worse and they were not even that interesting to the enthusiast who will just take about any reason to upgrade.

When Haswell E comes out and if it has the same number of cores as Ivybridge E and sandy E, people will be better off sticking with their old platform unless they are still on westmere or older. Haswell brought very little performance increase over ivy-bridge. Particularly with Haswell-e, because it may require a new set of expensive DDR4 memory, Intel has to do something new to entice potential owners. Because IPC is set at this point for the haswell architecture, this means adding more cores at the very least.

It still pisses me off that Intel has staggered its release so their flagship platform comes out later than their mainstream platform when it comes to a new architecture.

[Dumo]

Ivy bridge E reviews, although they obliterated AMD in performance, the reviews came out negative in the end. The reason being, they present almost no performance increase over sandy-bridge E. Add in they clocked worse and they were not even that interesting to the enthusiast who will just take about any reason to upgrade.

On average, it needs 5.3Ghz SB-E to catch 5.1Ghz Ivy-E in most benchmarks full cores. Even bigger difference on IMC scaling

[PatRaceTin]

Oh may be I think to upgrade my 2500K

[Ace123]

Try to remember they have staggered their release because haswell-e offers newer technologies than Haswell does. despite the fact they share the same namesake, they are much different processors.

[zalbard]

Try to remember they have staggered their release because haswell-e offers newer technologies than Haswell does. despite the fact they share the same namesake, they are much different processors.

The platform is different, the CPU is nearly the same except for the memory controller. Regular workstation platform differences...

[lutjens]

Unlocked 8 core? Only 3 years late and artificially late due to Intel's incredibly ignorant locking of the E5-2687W.

Unlocked 10 or 12 core? Intel milked the hex cores for what will be 4.5 years (if Haswell-E actually does appear in Q3 2014). We won't see unlocked 10 or 12 core CPUs before the end of the decade, at the absolute earliest?and that's only if we're extremely lucky. The only way we'll see them sooner will be if AMD can release something competitive this decade.

[tajoh111]

Unlocked 8 core? Only 3 years late and artificially late due to Intel's incredibly ignorant locking of the E5-2687W.

Unlocked 10 or 12 core? Intel milked the hex cores for what will be 4.5 years (if Haswell-E actually does appear in Q3 2014). We won't see unlocked 10 or 12 core CPUs before the end of the decade, at the absolute earliest?and that's only if we're extremely lucky. The only way we'll see them sooner will be if AMD can release something competitive this decade.

The sad thing is Intel is ridiculously ahead for IPC and single threaded performance compared to AMD.

Intels QX series which is ancient by today standards, is competitive for single threaded performance and a tiny bit faster clock for clock than Phenom II which remains AMD's fastest IPC core(faster than piledriver).

If Intel had kept the QX series around and let betters nodes and refinements bring frequency increase(these things could overclock to 4.5ghz on 45nm's), it would still be competitive with AMD's processors today.

AMD choice to go lower IPC, higher frequency and lower single threaded performance, didn't pay off.

Intel thus, has been just competing against itself for the enthusiast platform.

In particularly benchmarkers. I only see Intel being used for benchmarking and its only this group of people that really get benefits from INtels newest platforum. That extra 5% or 10% more performance is significant here.

Haswell E, hopefully Intel is a bit better with the thermal interface this time around, so people do not need to delid their processors.

[crash5s]

Intel arrogance has made it so, although AMD doesn't play a threat at all in this segment, their own processors do.

With the small increases in performance lately for Intels enthusiast line, they have given people little incentive to upgrade over their previous platform.

Intel is its own worst enemy at decreasing sales of newly release products. Ivy bridge E reviews, although they obliterated AMD in performance, the reviews came out negative in the end. The reason being, they present almost no performance increase over sandy-bridge E. Add in they clocked worse and they were not even that interesting to the enthusiast who will just take about any reason to upgrade.

When Haswell E comes out and if it has the same number of cores as Ivybridge E and sandy E, people will be better off sticking with their old platform unless they are still on westmere or older. Haswell brought very little performance increase over ivy-bridge. Particularly with Haswell-e, because it may require a new set of expensive DDR4 memory, Intel has to do something new to entice potential owners. Because IPC is set at this point for the haswell architecture, this means adding more cores at the very least.

It still pisses me off that Intel has staggered its release so their flagship platform comes out later than their mainstream platform when it comes to a new architecture.

The chance to get off the current socket 2011 chipsets might be more than enough to get people to move.

Their "enthusiast line" is actually their workstation and server line. It's fine to expect things to move slower there, it's the nature of the beast. But their chipsets, be it the 606 or x79, didn't deliver. ivy-E would have been more attractive if x79 had been properly refreshed, when you looked at the entire platform and z77 vs x79 it became a bit of a joke.

[Zaxx]

My upgrade goal for next month is:
ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition
Intel Core i7-4930K
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB)

Now it makes me think if I should not wait for the Haswell E and X99, since all in my upgrade will become obsolete including the mobo and ram, so soon.

I'd wait if I were you...not just for the new cpu but for the chipset features as well...10 sata ports and m.2 pci-e makes me grin but then again I'm a storage/ssd hoar...lol Really REALLY hope that m.2 isn't exclusive to the X99. I sat out on 77 and 87 chipsets mostly for the lack of anything new in the storage department. Was eyeballing a mid-range LSI raid card up until I read about native m.2 support...with the looming SF-3700 launch (1.8GB/s r/w) I now wonder just how fast the 9 series will be. I got another 6 months min. before I'm ready to buy tho, and there will be lots more answers by then...besides, launch prices are always too high for my liking.

[tajoh111]

The chance to get off the current socket 2011 chipsets might be more than enough to get people to move.

Their "enthusiast line" is actually their workstation and server line. It's fine to expect things to move slower there, it's the nature of the beast. But their chipsets, be it the 606 or x79, didn't deliver. ivy-E would have been more attractive if x79 had been properly refreshed, when you looked at the entire platform and z77 vs x79 it became a bit of a joke.

What I don't like about the line is when Ivy bride E comes out, haswell comes out at the same time. And considering haswell performs better than ivy bridge IPC wise, haswell beats it at many tasks.

This I feel like x79 lineup and its cpu's have such a short life as the top dog.

I liked it when Intel released something like x58 first, and then came out the mainstream platform after. You paid a higher price of admission, but you got the platform and new architecture earlier.

If DDR4 comes out double the cost of DDR3, it might take more than a couple extra cores to entice me.