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    Intel?s Latest 2013 SSD Road Map Leaked

    Interesting things ahead...esp for pci-e drives.

    Leaked Intel SSD Roadmap

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    Enterprise drives look great, but what about consumer ones? Intel's been lagging behind when it comes to consumer drives for a while now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Enterprise drives look great, but what about consumer ones? Intel's been lagging behind when it comes to consumer drives for a while now.
    They are focusing on m.2 which is what they should be doing. SSDs have been bottlenecked by 6Gbps SATA for nearly a year already.

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    And I'm supposed to be jumping for joy over a 2013 roadmap with 26 days left in the year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowfat View Post
    They are focusing on m.2 which is what they should be doing. SSDs have been bottlenecked by 6Gbps SATA for nearly a year already.
    Temple Star looks pretty unimpressive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh1980 View Post
    And I'm supposed to be jumping for joy over a 2013 roadmap with 26 days left in the year?
    HAHAH True !

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    If you bothered to look, the map covers 2013 and all 4 quarters of 2014.

    Interesting to see Intel use a '3700' model number...same as the upcoming SandForce controller. Deff something to look forward to. The last time Intel used SF, they released the fastest SF-2281 MLC based drive available (the 520 series) with solid dependability...while everyone else was still scratching their head just trying to get the 2281 fw fixed and dependable. Intel nailed the firmware to the point it never needed another update. SF and Intel have a lil history to work off of to say the least. Can't wait for the next gen. consumer based pci-e drives to launch. With Intel supplying the nand & fw and LSI with the SF controller and raid controller it's looking good already.
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    Huh? What? Not complete!? Spill!!!
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    Yeah, I guess they left out some important details on that roadmap ehhe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metroid View Post
    Yeah, I guess they left out some important details on that roadmap ehhe.
    Damn the NDAs...unless ofc I get one.
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    Mmmm PCI-E based SSD's... Now we are talking. Stop the bottle necks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathman20 View Post
    Mmmm PCI-E based SSD's... Now we are talking. Stop the bottle necks!
    Yup...especially if they use the next gen SF-3700 controller (1.8GB/s read and write!) Intel and LSI are buddies so we should see some sweet stuff comin' our way.
    LSI's raid controllers and SF controllers + Intel's nand and fw engineering and validation = one helluva recipe for pcie drives!
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    And I'm just waiting for all this crap to be released, a bunch of people will buy this PCIe stuff and realize their bootup times only decreased by a fraction of a second. /rollseyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh1980 View Post
    And I'm just waiting for all this crap to be released, a bunch of people will buy this PCIe stuff and realize their bootup times only decreased by a fraction of a second. /rollseyes
    Do you really want to buy one of those just for faster boot times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowfat View Post
    They are focusing on m.2 which is what they should be doing. SSDs have been bottlenecked by 6Gbps SATA for nearly a year already.
    Agreed I have an 840 pro and i see no need to get another ssd until sata express is ready. Slightly off topic any idea when sata express will be available ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomferrari View Post
    Agreed I have an 840 pro and i see no need to get another ssd until sata express is ready. Slightly off topic any idea when sata express will be available ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER View Post
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    says who lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Enterprise drives look great, but what about consumer ones? Intel's been lagging behind when it comes to consumer drives for a while now.
    It's not just in SSDs that Intel's attitude reflects this strategy. Give the give the good stuff to the Enterprise market and the neutered, underpowered crap goes to the consumer whenever they get around to releasing it. Given the delay in the arrival of an unlocked 8 core CPU from Intel, the consumer version of the P3700 should be released sometime in 2017...

    It actually won't be that long, but due solely to the reason that there are more competitive SSD manufacturers ATM than there are competitive x86 CPU makers. For this reason and this reason alone, Intel may actually have to release something competitive to the consumer market and do it in a reasonable time frame. If Intel was the only viable SSD maker (to mimic their position in the x86 CPU market), we'd be guaranteed to be using SATAIII for the rest of the decade...

    I can just imagine what the 2TB P3700 will be going for....$3.5-4k is my guess...
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    Thanks for the help (or lack thereof) in resolving my P3700 issue, FUGGER...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Do you really want to buy one of those just for faster boot times?
    I don't want to buy one at all. My system performance took a huge leap forward going to SSD even when it wasn't saturating SATA II. Now we're able to saturate SATAIII fairly easily and my performance hasn't increase by more than a few percentage points if that. Sure, you can copy files faster but that's not an indicator of system performance. That's raw disk throughput and nothing more.

    At work is the several orders of magnitude difference in "seek times" between SSDs and platter based media. That's where the performance boosts came from. Not raw throughput of your disks. Remember some of the first gen SSDs had throughput numbers slower than platter disks, but bootup times were amazing because the CPU wasn't spending 80%+ of the time idle waiting for a hard drive to seek.

    Do you know how much data is read when i bootup my Windows 7 machine all the way to the desktop? About 500MB. Yes, that little. I'm running an SSD and I let my tray fill up with icons because I don't care anymore. If I had a platter drive I'd be gouging out my eyes with an icepick for sure. But I have 29 icons right now as I type this and I don't worry about it at all. My friend's very bloated system is just over 1GB to the desktop.

    Unfortunately, even if PCIe were to provide a similar order of magnitude difference over SSDs you're hitting a point of diminishing returns. Sure, the numbers make you drool and want one. They look super cool and I do want one. But not until they are reasonably priced and I actually have a need for a new disk.

    Sorry, must not be so Xtreme today. :P

    Maybe I'm just getting more realistic with what actually gives me a performance boost and what doesn't and letting that determine where I spend my money than I used to.

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