deneb vs zambezi

[erek]

Is the Deneb really clock for clock much faster than the Zambezi?

According to this article the Deneb destroys the Zambezi @ http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-3.html

[FlanK3r]

yes and no, depends at software

[erek]

yes and no, depends at software

x264 rendering, gaming, watching videos, multitasking, etc

autodesk maya, softimage, and motionbuilder

3d rendering

[i found nemo]

clock per clock deneb is more efficient. overall i would say Deneb is more powerful than Zambezi. but furthermore i would also say that Zosma is even more powerful and efficient in ipc unless you are pegging 5 cores or more at 100% ( it is a 6 core cpu ) but this is because l3 cache size is the same on deneb and zosma. had the zosma had 9mb of l3 cache the ipc would not be affected when at 100% usage on all cores i think.

[Yeroon]

why would you ask about ipc when what you are looking for is IPS. No-one would run a PD at PHII speeds to get anything done, so why ask about it in that reference(IPC)?
Since what you are looking for seems to be mostly multicore stuff I'd say PD based 8 core. Higher IPS but lower IPC. Your poll is flawed if you are trying to get anything useful out of it.

[erek]

so I would be much better off with a Thuban X6 than this Zambezi FX 8120?

[i found nemo]

why don't you want the vishera version?
but this is a 8320 not a 8120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113285

[erek]

why don't you want the vishera version?
but this is a 8320 not a 8120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113285

i pre-ordered a Zambezi (FX 8120) when they first came out in 2011, and I am just now researching about the Phenom II vs FX 81xx because a friend said his Deneb was faster and I didn't believe him til i looked it up... ,so now I am looking at getting a Thuban X6 or if you suggest the 8320 (Vishera) is better?

[tbone8ty]

At this point your better off saving your money

[zanzabar]

so I would be much better off with a Thuban X6 than this Zambezi FX 8120?

if they were clocked the same then the thulban smokes anything else from amd that is a single cpu chip. the zambezi runs higher clocks though so overall it makes no difference. down below you said you already have th e 8120 so unless you want to intel there is no point in changing right now.

[zir_blazer]

Deneb on anything that isn't Multithreaded beyond 4 Threads should be faster than Zambezi (Bulldozer). And with a Thuban, the FX-81xx was just slighty faster than it in Multithreaded for a more notorious loss on Single Threaded. Also, if I recall correctly, overclocking margins were better for Deneb and Thuban than Zambezi too. Basically, with very few exceptions on heavily Multithreaded task Zambezi sucked hard considering it couldn't consistently defeat what it was supposed to replace. Vishera (Piledriver) put Single Threaded performance back at Deneb/Thuban (K10 45nm) levels, so you could say than with a FX-83xx, you have nothing to envy a Deneb/Thuban.
If you were a Bulldozer early adopter, I'm sorry for you, because it was dissapointing.

[Oliverda]

Depends on the application.

Same core count and clock:

























(Bulldozer=Zambezi)

[i found nemo]

if you already have the 8120, don't sweat it. just overclock it to almost as far as it can go, and it will serve you well for another 4-6 years.

also plz read this for improving Zambezi's efficiency.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-(SuperPI-x87)

[vario]

if you already have the 8120, don't sweat it. just overclock it to almost as far as it can go, and it will serve you well for another 4-6 years.

also plz read this for improving Zambezi's efficiency.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-(SuperPI-x87)

All in all deneb and thuban are better choices than zambezi, however in some apps zambezi will be faster.And it overclocks to higher freq.
However going back to PHII is a bad idea, if you can sell your 8120, just get the cheapest vishera you can get, they are all unlocked.
My tests proved that it is overall faster than PHII, not by a huge amount in most apps, but in some there is nice gain.Or, if you want a really sizable upgrade, there is no denying it now, go intel :-(.
However Vishera with clocks higher than 4.0Ghz is a really nice performing chip its comparable to intels in Mt work, its gonna chew 2x the power tho.

[i found nemo]

All in all deneb and thuban are better choices than zambezi, however in some apps zambezi will be faster.And it overclocks to higher freq.
However going back to PHII is a bad idea, if you can sell your 8120, just get the cheapest vishera you can get, they are all unlocked.
My tests proved that it is overall faster than PHII, not by a huge amount in most apps, but in some there is nice gain.Or, if you want a really sizable upgrade, there is no denying it now, go intel :-(.
However Vishera with clocks higher than 4.0Ghz is a really nice performing chip its comparable to intels in Mt work, its gonna chew 2x the power tho.

on one hand i agree with you, i do think the new vishera ( @ 5ghz mind you ) is an equal ( overall ) competitor of a fully clocked 4.2ghz 6core thuban/zosma. unless he knows someone who wants a 8120 he'll have to bite the bullet on price. but really i would say just to max it out. maybe he has a golden 8120?