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    NVIDIA Drops GTX 780, GTX 770 Prices

    A lot of news coming from the NVIDIA camp today, including some price drops and price announcements.
    First up, the high-powered GeForce GTX 780 is getting dropped from $649 to $499, a $150 savings that will bring the GTX 780 into line with the competition of AMD's new Radeon R9 290X launched last week.

    Next, the GeForce GTX 770 2GB is going to drop from $399 to $329 to help it compete more closely with the R9 280X.

    The yet-to-be-released GeForce GTX 780 Ti is also getting a price - $699 based on the email we just received. And it will be available starting November 7th!!
    All I can say is thanks AMD, competition is great. Read more @ PCP
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    Calling something crap before anyone put it on water or subzero isn't really nice but ooh well.

    Competition is nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Thank you AMD, but for nothing. 290X is hot, noisy, unoveclockable crap - nobody will buy it for higher price then 549 USD, AMD will know it, and in few days will be decimated by warm, silent and overclockable 780 Ti.
    I wouldn't call a $150 price cut nothing As for heat and noise, it's really funny watching certain posters change their mind on the subject depending on where their favorite brand stands
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Thank you AMD, but for nothing. 290X is hot, noisy, unoveclockable crap - nobody will buy it for higher price then 549 USD, AMD will know it, and in few days will be decimated by warm, silent and overclockable 780 Ti.
    yes i totally agree with you. we were happy buying titan for 1000 usd. what was amd thinking while doing this and took our premium exclusivity from our hands... nvidia should react this with price increase not price drop then amd will see...


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    Really aggressive of Nvidia. Seems they don't want AMD to get marketshare.

    This move seems a bit too much against the 290x and seems more targeted towards the 290. Being 50 dollars cheaper, having the Nvidia brand while having 3 games free more than makes up for the 5-9 percent performance difference.

    The thing that hurts the 290x the most is supply though. Without proper supply in the channel, it literally can't do anything. The burden is left up to the 290 regular which AMD needs to deliver in quantity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    This move seems a bit too much against the 290x and seems more targeted towards the 290. Being 50 dollars cheaper, having the Nvidia brand while having 3 games free more than makes up for the 5-9 percent performance difference.

    The thing that hurts the 290x the most is supply though. Without proper supply in the channel, it literally can't do anything. The burden is left up to the 290 regular which AMD needs to deliver in quantity.
    With 3 good games and this price no 780ti no 290x no 290 can compete with this offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kromosto View Post
    With 3 good games and this price no 780ti no 290x no 290 can compete with this offer.

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    Add in the larger headroom on the gtx 780 and this is even for people who want absolute performance. Thanks for AMD for bringing competion, but next time for their own sake, I hope they launch more than 3000 cards world wide(the amount of battlefield 4 bundles which seems to have made the entire initial quantity) next time so they can take advantage of their own launch and own hype. The paper launch of 290x made it way to easy for Nvidia to counter.

    I can almost guarantee Nvidia is going to sell more than 3000 cards in before AMD gets their next shipments to retailers.

    This is going to a bloody war for margins those when AMD gets their cards in stock.
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    wow, iam about to dig in on the R9 290x but now I can find the MSI GTX 780 Gaming for ~30 eur less than the Sapphire R9 290x, and according to guru3d review after overclocking the MSI GTX 780 Gaming beat R9 290x 2 out of 3 games:
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...hmarks,29.html
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,27.html
    Can anyone find overclocked results for other games also ?
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    This will hit hard the selling of 290x. poor AMD
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Thank you AMD, but for nothing. 290X is hot, noisy, unoveclockable crap - nobody will buy it for higher price then 549 USD, AMD will know it, and in few days will be decimated by warm, silent and overclockable 780 Ti.
    Don't you ever get tired of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    This move seems a bit too much against the 290x and seems more targeted towards the 290. Being 50 dollars cheaper, having the Nvidia brand while having 3 games free more than makes up for the 5-9 percent performance difference.

    The thing that hurts the 290x the most is supply though. Without proper supply in the channel, it literally can't do anything. The burden is left up to the 290 regular which AMD needs to deliver in quantity.
    They don't have a choice, until they know about Mantle, they have to make the AMD cards look as unattractive as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconyu View Post
    They don't have a choice, until they know about Mantle, they have to make the AMD cards look as unattractive as possible.
    I think they chose to be extra aggressive since the 290 is largely an unknown at this point. It is likely going to be price maximum 450 while being the same speed as a stock gtx 780. I think Nvidia is carefully monitoring mantle, but are likely not too worried about it yet.

    For now stock gtx 780 are to counter potential 290 customers, while the $550 overclocked models of the gtx 780 are to counter 290x. Add in the 3 game bundle and power characteristics and the only reason to go AMD is for Mantle and trusounds which are unproven at this point. It's a lot to expect customers based on hope, particularly from the underdog.

    The branding advantage cannot be understated which is why all this is amplified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    This move seems a bit too much against the 290x and seems more targeted towards the 290. Being 50 dollars cheaper, having the Nvidia brand while having 3 games free more than makes up for the 5-9 percent performance difference.

    The thing that hurts the 290x the most is supply though. Without proper supply in the channel, it literally can't do anything. The burden is left up to the 290 regular which AMD needs to deliver in quantity.
    You get the point.. the 290x is faster of the 780, but the 290 should match it or maybe just a few percent under and for way cheaper, instead of doing the price cut in 2 times, they have do it directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    I think they chose to be extra aggressive since the 290 is largely an unknown at this point. It is likely going to be price maximum 450 while being the same speed as a stock gtx 780. I think Nvidia is carefully monitoring mantle, but are likely not too worried about it yet.

    For now stock gtx 780 are to counter potential 290 customers, while the $550 overclocked models of the gtx 780 are to counter 290x. Add in the 3 game bundle and power characteristics and the only reason to go AMD is for Mantle and trusounds which are unproven at this point. It's a lot to expect customers based on hope, particularly from the underdog.

    The branding advantage cannot be understated which is why all this is amplified.
    You could be right, they might simply be placing the 780 where they think the 290 will be in price, but I really think Nvidia are worried about Mantle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    You get the point.. the 290x is faster of the 780, but the 290 should match it or maybe just a few percent under and for way cheaper, instead of doing the price cut in 2 times, they have do it directly.
    I think this might be a clear out of the gtx 780. I don't think Nvidia wants to sell a big die with a expensive cooler on the gtx 780.

    I think they would rather use up the overclocking headroom of the gtx 780(or/and enable one more smx) as they severely underclocked it to match up to a stock 290x, price that at 550(that 50 dollar difference helps pay for the cooler and then some).

    I would predict the following pricing if gtx 780 doesn't get restocked.

    gtx 770ti = 290 at $450 dollars.
    gtx 775 ti = 290x at $550 dollars.
    Gtx 780 Ti = 10-15% above at $699.

    I think the reasoning for this is like the 7970, there is just too much overclocking headroom and Nvidia could charge more simply upping the clocks which wouldn't cost them anything. I don't think Nvidia wants to sell such a crazy cooler on a 499 dollar product.
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    I dont think Nvidia want to release more cards of the 780TI... they keep the 780 and play on price, and work with the 780TI for margin.. there's maybe a possibility they release an additional Titan "ultra " . other thant that, if you think they want release 3 new skus.... forget it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    Add in the larger headroom on the gtx 780 and this is even for people who want absolute performance. Thanks for AMD for bringing competion, but next time for their own sake, I hope they launch more than 3000 cards world wide(the amount of battlefield 4 bundles which seems to have made the entire initial quantity) next time so they can take advantage of their own launch and own hype. The paper launch of 290x made it way to easy for Nvidia to counter.

    I can almost guarantee Nvidia is going to sell more than 3000 cards in before AMD gets their next shipments to retailers.

    This is going to a bloody war for margins those when AMD gets their cards in stock.
    Please stop posting complete BS. Making up info doesn't cast you in a better light.
    Partners have shipped tens of thousands of cards worldwide. 8k BF4 bundled 290xs were pre-ordered. Actual number of cards shipped to retailers is much higher than that.
    Larger retailers typically get cards in every few days, since they are airfreighted.
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    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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    Radeon R9 290X Fastest selling card in recent history
    A major US-based etailer has informed us that the new Radeon R9 290X sold out quite fast. In fact, they said that it sold a lot faster than any card in recent history and this happened on the launch day, in a matter of hours.
    AMD shipped a few thousand cards to US etailers and retailers and from what we can tell they sold them practically instantly. Some major player expects to get larger batches of cards this week but the demand is overwhelming and they will probably sell out just as fast.
    More on Fudzila

    I did see today couple links for the R9 290X listed $550 at Amazon, but by the time I got there the price was $699. They must he heard about the 780 Ti price j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    Please stop posting complete BS. Making up info doesn't cast you in a better light.
    Partners have shipped tens of thousands of cards worldwide. 8k BF4 bundled 290xs were pre-ordered. Actual number of cards shipped to retailers is much higher than that.
    Larger retailers typically get cards in every few days, since they are airfreighted.
    its ok Lord, he only said he's almost guaranteeing it, the guarantee of something is only as good as the person/company behind it.
    I would not make such fuss about it as it takes little knowledge that certainly retailers have had overall shipments in the tens of thousands.
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    So now an nvidia card with a 3 game bundle is a good deal? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    Please stop posting complete BS. Making up info doesn't cast you in a better light.
    Partners have shipped tens of thousands of cards worldwide. 8k BF4 bundled 290xs were pre-ordered. Actual number of cards shipped to retailers is much higher than that.
    Larger retailers typically get cards in every few days, since they are airfreighted.
    I was taking it from the Battlefield 4 pre-order bundle numbers. I guess it was actually 8000 world-wide, I remembered reading 3000 from fudzilla which is a bad place to get information. But he was saying retailers and etailers in the USA were only get a few thousand, I doubt the world wide supplies would be that impressive. I.e if US sellers only got 3000, I can't see the rest of the world getting 30,000+.

    From most 290x orders and deliveries, basically the biggest majority of deliveries I see are battlefield 4 limited editions. With retailers sold out within hours or AMD couldn't of had that much in stock even with great demand. These type of launches don't get the type of demand consoles get. In addition, the battlefield 4 bundles wasn't just pre-order editions, they were sold also on release day.

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?p=25186382

    I would like a source on this tens of thousands of cards. Demand has a lot to do with the sell out of 290x but I suspect supply is playing a role. Alot of people called the gtx 680 initially a paper launch because it sold out within the day it came out. This has that type of quantity as well associated with it.
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    Consoles also generally have a year or so of manufacturing to build inventory. GPUs typically have a few months...

    I got a number from North American Amazon(don't know if that number is just US or all of NA) that, added with the preordered BF4 bundles, takes it quite a bit over 10k.
    Assuming that Amazon is one of the 4-5 largest retailers/e-tailers, I find it hard to believe that only "a few thousand cards" were shipped.
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    Originally Posted by motown_steve
    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace123 View Post
    FYI- That link for the lightning takes you to the Gigabyte.
    Originally Posted by motown_steve
    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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