The best thing to do is copy the title from the article then you cant be blamed for anything, you then add your own opinion in the OP.Originally Posted by Ace123
The best thing to do is copy the title from the article then you cant be blamed for anything, you then add your own opinion in the OP.
Last edited by Final8ty; 09-05-2013 at 01:50 AM.
I don't think that picture proves anything other than that mb supports 95W FM+ CPUs. It also seems likely that the first batch of FM2+ CPU models will have a max TDB of 95W. I don't see how this shows any kind of socket limitation thoughCan't. FM2+ socket max TDP is 95W
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Yesterday Lisa Su mentioned that they are aiming to raise the performance/watt ratio. I think that we won't see any more new AMD CPU with higher than 95 watt TDP.
IMHO it's not necessarily bad at all.
Last edited by Oliverda; 09-05-2013 at 09:31 AM.
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How do the specs of a particular motherboard dictate the max TDP a socket can handle?Can't. FM2+ socket max TDP is 95W
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That means that we won't see FM2+ packaged unit with higher than 95 watt TDP.How do the specs of a particular motherboard dictate the max TDP a socket can handle?
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Personally, I'd like to see AMx retired, FMx treated as mainstream with only APU parts, and a successor to G34 used as both their server and enthusiast platforms.
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John Walrath at Pc perspective had this to say about the possibility of another am3+ processor:
"This was later confirmed when roadmaps were released and showed that the Vishera lineup would be supported for the AM3+ platform throughout 2013 and 2014. The Steamroller architecture, which will be introduced with the Kaveri parts, will not be represented on AM3+. Steamroller does appear to be a big step up in both IPC and multi-processing as compared to Zambezi and Piledriver architectures. Sadly, for those users hoping for one last upgrade on the AM3+ platform, it looks like prospects of a large Steamroller based product on that platform are slim.
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Huh ? It means that they wont produce a cpu with more cores so thats bad for us.
Also on the socket thing.
Fact that current FM2+ mainboards are certified for 95W does not mean that they cant build a mobo certified for 140W using the same socket.
However thats all pure guesswork because AMD seems intent on being only budget CPU firm from now on.
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someone will soon post new Desktop Client Roadmap, ive seen before month!
There is no FX successor to 2015, no FX, no High end desktop CPU!
Only 28nm Steamroller and Excavator APUs, nothing more in desktop, but i told you this many times.
So you are willing to claim there won't be 3 module Excavator based APUs in 2015? Do you know how well 3M EX APU @ 4Ghz could perform relative to 8350? It would probably destroy 8350 in every single metric.
Does anybody have an explanation why there is not a single proposed product (Desktop,Server included) with more than 4 SR cores ?
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Probably because it requires different system platform with a new socket and new memory standard support.
What's even weirder is Amd is willing to slam 8 jaguar cores together to make a sweet soc for ps4 but not willing to ram 4 modules together to make a sweet APU?
Ill take a 220w APU if it has 8 cores and a sick ass graphics in it
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You would but majority of the market wouldn't. That's why some supposed leaked Client roadmaps for 2015 have Carizzo models with max. of 65W TDP. I suspect AMD may introduce 95W EX based APU(3 module) sometime in 2015 though.
Looking at your rig one could make bold guess that you arent exactly a treehugger?
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That's how I read it too. Older AM3 is being retired, and AM3+ will be used 'going forward'.
I hope it's true anyway because I just bought an Asus Crosshair V
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Hard to say what's real and what isn't, AMD's roadmap has changed so much over the last two years, enough to leave a head spinning.
Just very recently (ie. last few weeks) have I been unable to find Phenom II X4 products for sale, they continued to manufacture those CPUs way after they said they would, into mid 2012.
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so am2+ is dead??? lol could this thread be any more or less clear?
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Is it passed the year 2009?
i was intentionally being confusing. unlike this thread :p
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Oh then I'm the one that is confused.
I honestly thought you were thinking that the am2 platform was still actively supported, like bios's and drivers and stuff like that.
Nope.Can't. FM2+ socket max TDP is 95W
FM2+ can handle 125/130W CPUs easily. Kaveri APUs have max 95W of TDP. Infact, FM2+ supports 100W Trinity/Richland APUs.
wonder what fm2+ offers for performance overclocked & at 175w. pretty good i'd assume.
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