He's talking about Hardware.fr's guess :Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
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He's talking about Hardware.fr's guess :
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Lawl.
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Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/erste-s...aii-grafikchip
??AMD Hawaii
28nm-Fertigung bei TSMC
~430mm? Chipfl?che (+18% gegen?ber R1000/Tahiti)
GCN 2.0 Architektur (R1000/Tahiti: GCN 1.0)
DirectX 11.2 (wie R1000/Tahiti)
4 Raster-Engines (+100% gegen?ber R1000/Tahiti)
maximal 2816 Shader-Einheiten aka 44 Shader-Cluster ? in jedem Fall mehr als die 2304 Shader-Einheiten der GeForce GTX 780 (+37,5% gegen?ber R1000/Tahiti)
Chiptakt (Hawaii XT): etwas mehr als 900 MHz (?hnlich der Radeon HD 7970, aber niedriger als bei der Radeon HD 7970 "GHz Edition")
Temperatur-kontrollierter Boost-Takt ? die Karte wird ihre volle Performance wegen Limits f?r Temperatur & Leistungsaufnahme regul?r nicht ausspielen k?nnen
wahrscheinlich nur ein 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface (wie R1000/Tahiti)
Vorstellung: 25. September 2013
Verkaufsstart: wahrscheinlich Mitte/Ende Oktober 2013
Verkaufsnamen: wahrscheinlich Radeon R9-290 (Hawaii Pro) & Radeon R9-290X (Hawaii XT)
i spoke about 44 CUs + 4x ACE engines before month in this thread, it is nothing new here.
A lot of people mentioned 44CUs, I said something about it sometime in July and again early Aug.
44CUs was suggested when there was a codename or driver list that got posted mentioning a "40PRO" SKU.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
I spoke about Oreo cookies a few days ago so there's pretty much no reason to ever bring it up again ok?
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Wow! 37.5% SP increase and 100% RP increase with only 18% more area , great IF true. I am really looking forward to that 100% RP increase in Pro and LE versions too
PS: IS there a secret XS competition going on 'Predict and Win'?
Last edited by Tao~; 09-19-2013 at 07:04 AM.
Va fail, dh'oine.
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Tao I think what it comes down to is, everyone is hoping and praying that this is going to be bigger than it might be. A lot of people feel they have lost Amd as a competetive entity in the enthusiast CPU market, and with only Nvidia and Amd in the discrete graphics market, enthusiast are anxious for some good competition between the two here. Amd needs to knock one out of the park here
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Am I the only one who sees this going down just like Cayman did? Everyone gets their hopes up, finds out the specs were only 2/3rd what the specs claimed (because the die shrink wasn't ready for release), then we see the part holding those specs as the next gen (the 7970 was literally the exact specs we were hearing for the 6970)?
I'm not saying that is what is going to happen, but just simply taking a look at the situation it's pretty possible. It's pretty similar in build-up, that much is for sure.
You heard Cayman had 2048SPs and a 384bit bus?
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Ah, well I'll be... Could've sworn I remembered the rumor saying 2048. They said 1920, so I was a bit off, but it's still a VERY similar situation we see going on right now. Guess it's true, once the kid is born your memory is the first thing to go!
As for memory bus, I don't recall that aspect being spoken about much during the build up to cayman.
There was one rumor that mentioned the possibility of a 384-bit bus for Cayman.
If you know me, you know I'm a great lurker and I try to have the more informations I can get before buy.
I just didn't see any good feedback on this card especially with the OC.
I got a friend who have a reference one and OC is not so good, especially past 1.25v (more juice give nothing, even with a good WB on it).
You think you're the center of rumors world ?
As I already said to you, Damien don't give a shee about what you're sayin'
Last edited by Olivon; 09-19-2013 at 09:12 AM.
True, but that was also leaks mixed in with a canned higher performance ASIC.
I was honestly asking because I really only remember the 1920 rumor.
Like Dil, I don't recall that. I might have to go back through the Cayman threads.
Nope, I was just suggesting that Damien isn't the only person who mentioned that transistor count.
It is just amazing that a couple of days after I post something, he posts something strangely similar that hasn't been mentioned anywhere else.
Just like back in the good old days of the Inq, they were ripping off some of my speculation in the RV7x0 days.
Not implying he is doing that but it is amusing to me.
Last edited by LordEC911; 09-19-2013 at 09:26 AM.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
This is the Tahiti die.
All the blue stuff won't get any bigger. That's 37% of the die or about 135 sqmm. That leaves 230sqmm to get bigger.
From what we know (official sources) Hawaii die is ~430sqmm. I'm going to substract the blue stuff for the sake of it. That leaves us with 295sqmm.
295/230 = 1.28. This gives about 30% more space to play with. That's atleast enough for +25% SP and 50% ROPs. Add to that increases in process efficiency (less spare transistors), architecture improvements => those specs are extremely possible.
At least 2560 SP and 48ROPs. That's the min you can expect. Since 7970 is ROP starved and OCing mem doesn't do much it won't get any slower than 7970+30%.
Whatever the specs it better have a titan type cooler on it
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Just a question. Will increasing the raster engine which I guess is the front end increase the size of the GCN cores or something else?
Will it be similar to cayman, where the cores themselves take up more space than before and as a result, no increase in cores actually occurs? Just more efficient use of the current cores?
Last edited by tajoh111; 09-19-2013 at 11:46 AM.
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Lets hope the GTX 780's price drops.
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That and they release less cut down version of gtx and titan and give both cards a little more volts and a higher TDP limit.
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Does it ever shock anyone else when your hear someone use Darwin's "survival of the fittest" to justify genocide?
If AMD release a card strong enough to force a price drop it means both companies are competing at the top end again, which in turn puts more high end cards in users hands. The knock on effect is that these high end card sales get noticed by developers (mostly via steam surveys) and they raise the target specification of their PC games, as there will be a larger target audience able to enjoy them.
Just guessing, but if the raster engine is a front end to the cores then it probably lives in the command processor and not the compute unit cores. A change there would change the size of the white part in the pic above.
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If its been posted sorry!
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Wow that is a bad article.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Im thinking about BF4 with eyefinity..
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