Pity, since people of the likes of Gabe mainly work on product performance and customer relations.
somebody should start a kickstart campaign to donate fund and take the fight to Asetek in court and put an end to patent trolling.
Pity, since people of the likes of Gabe mainly work on product performance and customer relations.
somebody should start a kickstart campaign to donate fund and take the fight to Asetek in court and put an end to patent trolling.
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dang i was just gonna buy one of these
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Ridiculous...Asetek is a POS brand, their products SUCK. This is terrible.
way i see it. swifttech dispute the claims. with the
We had all in one water cooling kits. a single complete unit. prior to this patent.
Self contained. All in One. Complete water cooling kit.
All the same thing. Only difference is. Some assembly required of the unit. Or some assembly required to install the unit. Which is just ... some assembly required no matter what you do.
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I don't think that is the issue really Greg.
I think it's the pump mounted on the block that is the problem.
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http://www.swiftech.com/pr-8-7-07-apogee-drive.aspx
According to this, they patented the idea and this was back in 2007.
But really, its swiftech that should be collecting all these royalty fees. They are one of if not the only original water cooling company to be alive today.
Last edited by tajoh111; 07-23-2013 at 08:19 PM.
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Gabe just needs to sell it separate, not as a full kit. maybe in 2 pieces or just parts only. the patent relates only to a full system. i can see how a court could not differentiate between a closed loop system and the one swiftech offers. However, it is sad that this patent got approved as it is in the first place as it essentially rules out any competition for this market without provision for licensing rights. it creates a default monopoly.
i can only say, let your money talk people. stop buying their coolers and they will open up
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Pretty sure it's the unit as a whole, connected into one contiguous, drop-in loop. If it were just the pump-on-block concept, they would have to pull the Apogee Drive (well, Apogee Drive II now) off the market too.
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Maybe they should hire more workers to help people like me...
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Give him a chance man, Gabe is a very cool guy but at this time he might be overloaded.
I take back what I said before. I don't want these systems anymore. This is going to be my 2nd RMA for these H220's. I thought these things were supposed to last for a few years?
1st pump before complete failure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-L7uBXka9w
2nd pump ready to die within 2 weeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71lA8dVKxXM
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
Sounds like the loop doesn't have any coolant in it. How are the temps?
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