Swiftech? today announced the withdrawal from US sales of the H220

[kuroikenshi]

Pity, since people of the likes of Gabe mainly work on product performance and customer relations.

somebody should start a kickstart campaign to donate fund and take the fight to Asetek in court and put an end to patent trolling.

[solofly]

The Edge series is very good and I will continue using it. You can use what ever block you want or the one that comes with it which I find is very good.

I was wondering if the pump can be replaced (in case of a breakdown) without replacing the whole unit (radiator that is)? Cause if it can I think I will pull the trigger...

[mutantmagnet]

Pity, since people of the likes of Gabe mainly work on product performance and customer relations.

somebody should start a kickstart campaign to donate fund and take the fight to Asetek in court and put an end to patent trolling.

Swiftech wasn't the first company hit with this patent problem. Cooler Master is the guinea pig challenging Asetek's claims in court.

[tbone8ty]

dang i was just gonna buy one of these

[Ivanlabrie]

Ridiculous...Asetek is a POS brand, their products SUCK. This is terrible.

[Buckeye]

I was wondering if the pump can be replaced (in case of a breakdown) without replacing the whole unit (radiator that is)? Cause if it can I think I will pull the trigger...

Yes I believe so but shoot them a email and ask to be sure. Gabe is very helpful in answering questions.

[mutantmagnet]

dang i was just gonna buy one of these

Just get it from Canada while you still can.

[Greg83]

way i see it. swifttech dispute the claims. with the
We had all in one water cooling kits. a single complete unit. prior to this patent.
Self contained. All in One. Complete water cooling kit.

All the same thing. Only difference is. Some assembly required of the unit. Or some assembly required to install the unit. Which is just ... some assembly required no matter what you do.

[Buckeye]

I don't think that is the issue really Greg.
I think it's the pump mounted on the block that is the problem.

[tajoh111]

I don't think that is the issue really Greg.
I think it's the pump mounted on the block that is the problem.

I thought swiftech was the first on the market with a pump and block on the same unit.

[Sparky]

I thought swiftech was the first on the market with a pump and block on the same unit.

Doesn't matter. Just like how Apple wasn't the first to do a lot of things, but were the first to patent it (and subsequently troll with), Asetek was the one to get the patent papers.

[tajoh111]

Doesn't matter. Just like how Apple wasn't the first to do a lot of things, but were the first to patent it (and subsequently troll with), Asetek was the one to get the patent papers.

http://www.swiftech.com/pr-8-7-07-apogee-drive.aspx

According to this, they patented the idea and this was back in 2007.

But really, its swiftech that should be collecting all these royalty fees. They are one of if not the only original water cooling company to be alive today.

[bot@xs]

Gabe just needs to sell it separate, not as a full kit. maybe in 2 pieces or just parts only. the patent relates only to a full system. i can see how a court could not differentiate between a closed loop system and the one swiftech offers. However, it is sad that this patent got approved as it is in the first place as it essentially rules out any competition for this market without provision for licensing rights. it creates a default monopoly.

i can only say, let your money talk people. stop buying their coolers and they will open up

[solofly]

Just get it from Canada while you still can.

New triple rad on its way...

http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=86340&v...cture=Swiftech

[solofly]

shoot them a email

I just did...

[Rob94hawk]

New triple rad on its way...

http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=86340&v...cture=Swiftech

Wicked! Probably overkill for just a cpu alone but cool nonetheless. Now if I loop it into my GTX 780 then it might be worth it. That's if it fits in my D-frame case.

[solofly]

I just did...

No reply yet. Looks like they don't want my business...(I tried)

[hokiealumnus]

I don't think that is the issue really Greg.
I think it's the pump mounted on the block that is the problem.

Pretty sure it's the unit as a whole, connected into one contiguous, drop-in loop. If it were just the pump-on-block concept, they would have to pull the Apogee Drive (well, Apogee Drive II now) off the market too.

[Evantaur]

No reply yet. Looks like they don't want my business...(I tried)

you waited like...one day? :P

[solofly]

you waited like...one day? :P

How many days do I have to wait for a simple yes or no? (support like that I don't care for, goodbye and that's it)

[Evantaur]

How many day do I have to wait for a simple yes or no? (support like that I don't care for, goodbye and that's it)

maybe you should ask him to send you a screenshot of his mailbox

[solofly]

Maybe they should hire more workers to help people like me...

[Buckeye]

Give him a chance man, Gabe is a very cool guy but at this time he might be overloaded.

[Rob94hawk]

I take back what I said before. I don't want these systems anymore. This is going to be my 2nd RMA for these H220's. I thought these things were supposed to last for a few years?

1st pump before complete failure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-L7uBXka9w
2nd pump ready to die within 2 weeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71lA8dVKxXM

[STaRGaZeR]

Sounds like the loop doesn't have any coolant in it. How are the temps?