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    How To: vBIOS edit your HD7950 Vapor-X

    This is a guide on how to edit your Sapphire Vapor-X HD7950 Video BIOS, as I figure out more then this will be added to. While the guide is specifically for Vapor-X Boost edition HD7950s the guide is also good for other 7950s or 7970s but values will more than likely be in a different place. This guide has been based on vBIOS 15.25.99, the values and positions of them within your specific vBIOS could and probably will vary depending on PCB revision, memory your card uses etc so some manual legwork will probably be required.


    Editing voltage and ASIC / VRM signal

    Before we begin theres some important notes to remember;

    * Hex in the vBIOS is written BACKWARDS
    * If trying to figure out some values for yourself remember (for example) 4004 [0440] is actually input as 440 into a programmer (such as the windows calculator when in programmer mode) which is 1.088v.

    Take a look at the image below,



    This is the first of TWO voltage tables, refer to the legend above for explanations of the colour coding. I’m not totally certain why there appears to be 2 idle voltages but I would guess one is boot voltage the other 2D voltage. I’m also not certain why there would seem to be 4 entries for DVD / Blueray playback voltage but as these voltages don’t need to be touched anyway its not something we need to be too concerned about. The load voltages is where things get peculiar, the voltage will bounce around anywhere between 1.023v and 1.188v, this certainly won’t help VRM temps and balancing these voltages should reduce VRM temps under load. As these voltages are all 3D voltages you may as well set them all to one value. If you have a high ASIC quality (75%+) then anywhere between 1.075v and 1.106v should be sufficient to reach in excess of 1100MHz GPU core speed. If you have a “average” to poor quality ASIC (65% - 50% > ) then 1.175v – 1.25v should be enough to net you 1100MHz+.

    Now have a look at the following image;



    This is the second of the voltage tables and in the case of Boost edition cards would seem to be unused but you may as well edit it anyway just in case. If this table isn’t used in Boost edition cards I really have no idea why it is still present in the vBIOS but my guess would be simply sloppy / lazy programming.

    Lastly, have a look at this image;



    Do NOT mistake this for a GPU voltage entry! You will brick the card and have to resort to the backup ROM chip to restore a "good" vBIOS.


    Editing power limits

    This step is much shorter than the last. By default you can adjust power limits to +20%, but that may not be enough to prevent the card throttling in some situations depending on voltage and clock speed. To change this limit simply adjust the following highlighted value;



    Here I have adjusted the power limit to +50% (hardware limit), if I have read the vBIOS right this means the board will supply a maximum TDP of 351 when the power limit slider in CCC is set to +50% as [EA] in decimal is 234, but the cards lower power limit will remain unchanged. To deliver even more power to the board (bad idea..351 is huge) we will need to individually edit minimum and maximum TDP limits. The advantage of doing this means you won't even need to adjust the power limits slider every time you install a new driver.



    If I have read the vBIOS right, the image above shows minimum TDP has been increased from 139 to 175, while the max TDP [EA] remains 351 when the power limit slider is increased to +50%. With this all in mind, below is a image of what I ended up editing power limits to;



    You can see here that power limits should now be 175 minimum, 234 maximum and with the power limit slider to +20% in CCC a upper limits TDP of 280.


    Editing memory voltage

    This is by far the biggest thing for Vapor-X cards as most of them seem to use Hynix memory and only have 1.5v set.. or in other words Sapphire didn’t want to give you a chance at having a fair shot at getting a decent memory clock.

    Check out the image below;



    From the image above you will see the default memory voltage of 1.5v, for 1.6v change the highlighted [DC 05] to [40 06]. I won't show you how to edit memory voltage higher so you all don't go blowing your memory chips up by throwing 1.7v - 1.8v+ at them.

    Thats it for now, I'll look at clock speeds and fixing the checksum which needs to be done as a result of changing clock speeds soon. Its VERY IMPORTANT to note all of this info I have pieced together simply by looking at the vBIOS in my Hex editor (HxD) and thus far have not tested all of my findings (memory voltage and manually changing board minimum / maximum power limits) so some of the info may be slightly inaccurate. If anyone KNOWS something is inaccurate (not just thinks it might be) then let me know so I can make the changes.

    If you want to start looking at how to cool your hothead VRMs then visit THIS thread.
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    Modified vBIOS Section for Sapphire Vapor-X HD7950s

    !!IMPORTANT!! These vBIOSes are for Vapor-X cards using Hynix memory, the PN of these cards (that I know of) are: 299-2E210-201SA and 299-2E210-104SA

    I recommend flashing these vBIOSes from pure DOS using a bootable USB stick / CD with the latest version of atiflash and this command; atiflash.exe -f -p 0 <filename>.rom

    Every vBIOS I add to this section I have personally modified and tested on my Vapor-X

    High Voltage - For cards with custom cooling

    Changes:

    Max voltage in OC software: 1.306v
    Powertune +30% in CCC
    Load GPU voltage 1.175v (constant, no random jumping about)
    Adjusted VRM signaling (1), (2)
    Fixed VDDC current spiking (3)

    (1) Adjusted again because Vapor-X cards have absolutely horrid vdroop.

    (2) Do note that if you OC further with OC software using this vBIOS that the VRM signaling fix will not apply to
    other (higher or lower) voltages used. This is because the OC software will set the "needed" VRM signal for the
    voltage you set, and not a compensated signal to counter vdroop. Some OC software (such as Trixx) is also buggy and
    will mess up the VRM signal compensation because initially it will look at the VRM signal set in the vBIOS (which is
    fine) but when you hit the reset button it will look at the voltage defined in the vBIOS instead.

    (3) Caused by the voltage constantly bouncing around. When the card should of been producing for example 124A it would in actuality end up pumping 190A+ for a considerable time before returning to normal - not good for the lifespan of the card.

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    |Other Notes:
    ------------

    This vBIOS just has basic changes for those who prefer to use OC software... yes, people like that really do exist

    Purpose in this vBIOS should be obvious - to uncripple the Vapor-X cards, this vBIOS is geared toward OCing lower voltage vBIOSes will follow.

    DL Link: Clicky

    Custom Stock - Low Power, FOR HIGH QUALITY ASICs

    Changes:

    Max voltage in OC software: 1.306v
    Powertune +30% in CCC
    Load GPU voltage 1.056v (constant, no random jumping about)
    Adjusted VRM signaling
    Fixed VDDC current spiking


    DL Link: Clicky


    Fully customised vBIOSes

    In this section you will find vBIOSes for the Vapor-X (PNs: 299-2E210-201SA and 299-2E210-104SA ONLY!!) which I have fully modified, not just voltages.

    Custom1.rom - Suitable regardless of stock or custom cooling - just make sure your card can do the new clock speeds at the voltage (Actual) specified.

    Changes:

    Max voltage in OC software: 1.306v
    Powertune +30% in CCC
    Load GPU voltage 1.056v (constant, no random jumping about)
    Adjusted VRM signaling (1), (2)
    Fixed VDDC current spiking
    Default GPU clock: 1100MHz
    Default memory clock: 1400MHz

    (1) Adjusted again because Vapor-X cards have absolutely horrid vdroop.

    (2) Do note that if you OC further with OC software using this vBIOS that the VRM signaling fix will not apply to other (higher or lower) voltages used. This is because the OC software will set the "needed" VRM signal for the voltage you set, and not a compensated signal to counter vdroop. Some OC software (such as Trixx) is also buggy and will mess up the VRM signal compensation because initially it will look at the VRM signal set in the vBIOS (which is fine) but when you hit the reset button it will look at the voltage defined in the vBIOS instead.

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    |Other Notes:
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    This is your one-size-fits-all vBIOS so is on the conservative side, VRM temp increases should be minimal.

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    Xtreme vBIOSes

    In this section you will find advanced, hardcore vBIOS files. You will require the password from me for them.

    <UNDER CONSTRUCTION>
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    19/07/13 - Finished editing and making revisions to hex guide. Rev now 1.1.
    21/07/13 - Added tailored vBIOS for cards with high ASIC quality.
    24/07/13 - Started adding fully customised vBIOSes.
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    Nice post Ket.

    I had to go back to the stock XFX BIOS on my card, because I bought a new display and the HDMI wasn't working with the VTX3D HD7970 BIOS. The DVI was working just fine so I never realized about that issue.

    Anyway, I've edited the stock BIOS with the BIOS Editor you posted on the other link, and change the voltage to a constant 1.175v. It's working perfectly! But now that I use 2 displays, the idle clock is 500/1500 with 1.175v instead of the 0.800v/0.940v I had before.

    Do you know how te edit only that voltage on the BIOS I'm already using? Probably 1v will be enough for those clocks and It's running on higher volts for nothing.
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    Ah, well you mentioning 500 / 1500 has solved something I was pondering, I saw entries for 500MHz clocks and 501MHz clocks an thought to myself "Well, thats weird.. why are there a bunch of entries that are practically identical" I put it down to simply where the vBIOS was kinda generic and had been made for several different SKUs, not just one or two but you saying what you have has made it clear that those clocks are for when dual monitors are connected.

    As for how to solve your issue I would need to look at your vBIOS to find the exact location(s) you would need to edit, but if you open your vBIOS in a Hex editor you can probably find the entries to edit quite easily. Just search the file for 50 C3 00 for 500MHz, thats backwards Hex, written normally its 00 C3 50 but everything is written backwards in the vBIOS. As Hex is converted to decimal its 500.00, or on a calculator simply 50000. The Hex value for 1.175v is 97 04 and the Hex value for 1v is E8 03

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    I'm not sure if I should modify the BIOS... I lost performance with the stock XFX BIOS

    The HD7970 BIOS scores substantially better than the HD7950 BIOS, but the HDMI is not working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andi64 View Post
    I'm not sure if I should modify the BIOS... I lost performance with the stock XFX BIOS

    The HD7970 BIOS scores substantially better than the HD7950 BIOS, but the HDMI is not working.
    You sure the performance you lost wasn't just down to lower stock clocks?

    Anyway, after spending some considerable time today looking for memory voltage in the Vapor-X vBIOS I might of given up. The value it probably should be doesn't change the voltage when I tested it out, I even resorted to opening both V08 and V0A (files come in "pairs" for Vapor-X cards - one normal, the other boost) vBIOS files in Hex Workshop (yep, I put the "childrens toy" HxD away for this one) and I still couldn't find where the damn memory voltage was and Hex Worskshop nicely highlights every block thats been changed. So at this point in time either somebody needs to come along to give me a hand to find where the memory voltage is, or I simply modify V08 vBIOS files instead of V0A files. The former is preferable naturally as I was on my way to making a HD7K series vBIOS modding utility.

    Oh and just a FYI for people, the latest vBIOS for vapor-X cards using Hynix memory that have 1.6v defined for memory in the vBIOS is V04 (15.25.01). V09 and V0A (15.25.99) are the severely nerfed latest and "recommended" vBIOSes.
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    Ket, I have a Vapor-X here, with 950/1250 clocks and two 8p connectors, and the VRAM is 1.6V. I could send it to you if you want.

    Edit:

    I've just checked. I think you already have it. BIOS version: 015.025.000.099.000000 (113-210PBBBG-V08).
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    That would be very helpful indeed Shoot me a PM with a download link for it or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andi64 View Post
    Ket, I have a Vapor-X here, with 950/1250 clocks and two 8p connectors, and the VRAM is 1.6V. I could send it to you if you want.

    Edit:

    I've just checked. I think you already have it. BIOS version: 015.025.000.099.000000 (113-210PBBBG-V08).
    Ah, bummer Yeah I have that Vapor-X vBIOS. I have Vapor-X vBIOS files for BBBG (no idea what memory is used with these files, have you happen to of looked at the RAM on your board to get a manufacturer?) I also have vBIOS files for HY (Hynix) and AFR, which again I'm not sure what memory boards using this vBIOS are outfitted with.

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    The card is not mine, so I can't remove the heatsink to look at the memory
    Is there any other way to know it?
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    Not aside from looking at the bracketed part in GPU-Z, and sadly that doesn't reveal anything too telling. If I had to guess I'd say BBBG is Elpida while AFR is Samsung but without people who have BBBG and AFR in that bracketed part of GPU-Z physically checking I can't be certain. Albeit missing some info ATM I'd really like to find out I probably have enough to at least put together a GUI version of a modding utility that will work for Vapor-X cards but thats it. Its a start, but not really what I want to create.

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    Elpida is definitely BBBG. I was looking at some reviews to find the printing on the RAM modules. Elpida for example says: "W2032BBBG-50-F". My XFX has Hynix RAM, and most of the reviews I found had Hynix.
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    Alright, BBBG is Elpida, HY is Hynix, now just to find out about AFR, guessing samsung, but AFR is more of a thing you would see printed on Hynix I've seen it for system memory before but not vRAM.

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    Just a FYI I tried a "AFR" vBIOS on my Vapor-X and it works fine, memory voltage is a measly 1.5v though. I think its safe to say there exists two vBIOSes for Hynix cards, "HY" and "AFR". If anyone finds / has a "AFR" vBIOS can you post a link to it here so I can continue my research, I already have a "AFR" vBIOS thats V08, so ideally if someone could post a link to a "AFR" vBIOS thats V06 or V05 that would be ideal.

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    Hi guys, first of all i have to thank the OP for this thread because without him i would still be another ignorant around the world.

    And second of all, i did and still am doing some tests on my MSI HD7850 2GB/OC TWINFROZR.

    If you wanna blow your VRAM i will tell you because it's no secret at all, sorry OP.

    1.5v=DC05
    1.6v=4006
    1.7v=A406
    1.8V=0807

    OP, this may interest you. I changed all of the hex corresponding to my default vgpu and it actually worked and nothing is bricked.

    Little teaser.


    I also tested with 1.4v and gpu-z/msi afterburner reported the vgpu correctly.
    Last edited by dr.noob; 11-18-2013 at 07:20 PM.

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    Can a hex-savvy pal take a look on this 270x's one to find where the voltage table is? It's supposed to be "unlocked" with these Gigabyte Windforce 3X Jumbo Mumbo but it's unlocked up to 1206mV, with a stock votage of, waait for it,... 1206mV *facepalm*.

    And it's a IR3567A, it should overvolt just fine... :/



    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byw67CyZYE4QOEN2UzVFa Gx 4b kk/edit?pli=1 <-remove spaces for the link to work
    Last edited by Ccaution; 05-21-2014 at 08:25 PM.

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    vmem 1.7v 1 year

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    Nice, what stable clocks can u achieve with 1.6v and 1.7?

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    Flashing a 290X a good idea?

    Hi,

    I have an Asus 290X OC II that misbehaves when certain ver 14.6-14.8 is installed as it black screen and flickers. I read somewhere that increasing the gpu vcore could help or the vram voltages. Is the flashing procedure identical to the tutorial here and if something went wrong and it bricked how would you flash back the original rom if there is a hardware switch between working bios a or b?

    Thanks.
    Motherboard: EVGA Classified 759
    CPU: Intel 920 D0 2.66 @ 3.8ghz
    Ram: 6gb 1600 DDR3 7-7-7-20 Corsair Dominators
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    Audio: SB X-Fi Titanium
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