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    Apple introduces new Workstation, iTunes Radio, updates Macbook Air, OSX, iOS 7

    Highlights from New York Times:
    Video: http://www.nytimes.com/video/2013/06...?smid=pl-share
    Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/te...or-mobile.html

    The Mac Pro really caught my eye. More from endgadget:
    http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/n...-at-wwdc-2013/

    Of course, you can watch the original WWDC at the Apple site: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2013/

    Also, there are plenty of details on the Apple site.

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    That Mac Pro is a good looking rubbish bin for people to throw their money into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbagz View Post
    That Mac Pro is a good looking rubbish bin for people to throw their money into.

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    Could you say why you think so? If you are saying that it will be overpriced compared to equal capability Linux/UNIX/Windows stations, I agree with you.

    As far as design goes, I found the idea of concentrating heat dissipation interesting; also the idea of all other expansion being external.
    With Apple's iCloud service or with external storage, I think that this station moves to isolate data from programs/systems that act on the data. Not that this is a new idea at all, but this product serves it up as pretty much out of the box, and in a very small good looking box!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xytrius View Post
    Could you say why you think so? If you are saying that it will be overpriced compared to equal capability Linux/UNIX/Windows stations, I agree with you.

    As far as design goes, I found the idea of concentrating heat dissipation interesting; also the idea of all other expansion being external.
    With Apple's iCloud service or with external storage, I think that this station moves to isolate data from programs/systems that act on the data. Not that this is a new idea at all, but this product serves it up as pretty much out of the box, and in a very small good looking box!
    On price was what my statement was about.

    As for design on the custom PCBs, I do agree that it is a good idea however I'm not a full fan of the toilet roll holder design.

    Maybe it's just hard for me to picture beside a nice 30+" monitor on a CAD workdesk etc.

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    looks like R2D2 :P

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    This has to be using mobile GPU parts. Look at the central heat core, it doesn't look like it has enough heat dissipation to cool two w9000s and a 12 core xeon chip. Doesn't look like there is an insane amount of surface area which would be required to cool multiple gpus, a xeon processor and a 1000 watt power supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    This has to be using mobile GPU parts. Look at the central heat core, it doesn't look like it has enough heat dissipation to cool two w9000s and a 12 core xeon chip. Doesn't look like there is an insane amount of surface area which would be required to cool multiple gpus.
    The number of cores listed makes it look like a normal 7970/7990 to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fussion View Post
    The number of cores listed makes it look like a normal 7970/7990 to me.
    If that is the case, I wonder how they keep everything cooled. I could only just see a water based system keeping all these components cool in a system with this profile. The power supply would take up a big chunk of that thermal core and it looks like some thing in the bottom of the thermal core is blocking airflow

    http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

    Look at thermal core and you can see what is either the motherboard or power supply at the bottom. But what you can see is that there isn't that many fins or surface area. We see some cPU heatsinks with this amount of surface area.
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    if this is really cool and silent then very very good.


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    I'm not the one to care about how tech stuff looks, but this is ridiculous..
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    I like the design, I'm so bored with all Tower cases flooding the market.

    5.55 l, that's just crazy small! The Bitfenix Prodigy is 6 times larger.
    Now make a mac midi with a HW CPU and a 770 or 780 GPU.

    Not that I will buy it...
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    After looking at the pictures of the new/future Mac Pro, I can say that it honestly looks like the cigarette disposal bins outside my building. The designer dude had to have been jonesing for a coffin nail when he/she came up with this.
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    biggest problem of that toilet holder mac Pro will be NOISE, two Radeons + Xeon = mega heat and only with one fan?

    but, if will be silent - i will buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evantaur View Post
    looks like R2D2 :P
    Yep! Mac Pro's mod inc ...

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    I think if any other brand released a desktop looking like that they would have been ridiculed to no end.

    Edit- Though looks apart its pretty clever design and packaging.
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    Apple has spoiled iOS 7, everything from slide up to unlock to the wallpaper with dynamic parallax effect screams android. They should have remained with their originality at least retained some of it i dont know why flatter fatter icons are needed i guess Apple wants to target old aged people now just like Microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zloyd View Post
    ...they would have been ridiculed to no end.
    Well look at this thread, I'd say it's being ridiculed right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zloyd View Post
    I think if any other brand released a desktop looking like that they would have been ridiculed to no end.

    Edit- Though looks apart its pretty clever design and packaging.
    In reality, they was a PC brand who have released the exact same Tubes / turbines design ( a micro ATX design if i remember well ) some years ago, i remember it in red and blue colors. ( i will try find it, but a bit hard without remember the brand name ). Now was at least looking a bit different.



    Anyway, dont put this Mac Pro on the floor near your desk, every one will think this is the trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbagz View Post
    As for design on the custom PCBs, I do agree that it is a good idea
    No, it is not. Unless you love paying premium for custom parts and having servicing and upgrading issues. It makes sense for notebooks because space is a big issue, it makes no sense here.
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    If that is the case, I wonder how they keep everything cooled.
    Basically, imagine everything directly hooked up to a big single radiator with heat pipes.
    Noise and temperatures are hard to predict, though...
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    This saddens me, as we solely use Macs at my office and this looks terrible for upgrading (adding new hardware!).
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    This Mac Pro is god awful! The idea of Mac pro's is brute horsepower, not style. No video editor/render/music composer gives two s to the wind about the style. And like eX stated, I bet this thing is going to be extremely difficult to upgrade at all.

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    This does look rather interesting. Is there some where that gives the size of this ?
    Tho its not something I would buy, Apple people might like it.

    If one of our favorite modders did a case mod like this every one would cheer, but some how when Apple does it it's a fail <shrug>

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