Testing the Asus Z87-PRO is a lot of fun , I like this mid-range board a lot ,very stable board even at high clocks and subsero.
quick cinebench 11.5 at 5700Mhz on Cascade @ -108c
your chips seems good chipsy .
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I got Asus Z87-Pro. It came with BIOS revision 0801. According to your website first production version is 1007. Did I get production mainboard or an early review sample?
I am asking this because for the first time with an Asus board I am having a lot of problems with SATA controller on a fresh Windows 7 install -- my OCZ Vertex 2 was not showing up every time and when it did it was throwing disk and ntfs errors in the event log. SSD works fine in a USB to SATA enclosure and I updated its firmware and did secure erase just to make sure everything is up to date. Intel RST was giving me errors in the event log for that port where Vertex 2 is connected. Port number changed if I connected it to another port.
I also tried different cables and I finally reverted to Microsoft AHCI driver which seems to aleviate the issue.
However, now I am getting the following error in the event log:
IDE port 0 is boot drive (OC Vertex 3 LP) which I also upgraded to latest firmware.Code:atapi - The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Ide\IdePort0.
Every HDD/SSD I have in this build was working perfectly on my P8Z68-V Pro.
Moreover, I could not boot the computer with ICH set to RAID mode and SATA DVD attached -- this also worked on P8Z68-V Pro.
CPU is 4770K, and RAM is 16GB 1600Mhz CL9 Kingston HyperX kit which is on your QVL for this mainboard. Video card is Asus 680 GTX.
Short from imaging Windows to another HDD/SSD to rule out OCZ incompatibility as a source of problem, I am out of ideas what I can try to resolve this controller error and I am beginning to suspect a faulty motherboard.
0801 is not pre production, that was the original build. Just update to the latest.
The issue you are getting with the SSD is known. The Sandofrce controlles are non-compliant and Intel have tightened up tolerances on Z87. You may need to upgrade your drive if SSD vendors or we cannot patch it. Sandforce's controllers have always been problematic, and this latest stuff with SATA detection compliance is another list of things that controller needs patches for. With the drives being as old as they are, anny SSD vendor we have approached is not interested in doing anything with them because they are now EOL.
You wont' get any guarantees it is working. You can take this as a guarantee that it doesn't:
Anyone claiming it is working is not being honest with you.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Can you please recommend a few SSD drives that are known to be compatible with Asus Z87-Pro?
If not, please cosider making one because what we know about new chipsets and new SSDs will always be considerably less than what your engineers know.
After spending $640 on this upgrade I would really like to avoid buying an incompatible SSD, not to mention the hassle of repeated OS reinstalls.
Another thing I need to know is whether SATA DVD are also problematic with Z87? Should I connect it to ASMedia perhaps?
Also, a few questions about BIOS:
1. Is it possible to have UEFI enabled and Secure Boot disabled? If so, how?
2. If boot is enabled only for Windows UEFI and other storage devices disabled or set to ignore why is DVD still accessed during POST?
3. Is there a more detailed documentation available for BIOS options? Many terms are not explained and those that are explained are not explained very well so it is hard to understand what they do.
Finally, a suggestion if I may:
1. When flashing BIOS from EZ Flash wording is awkward -- it asks "Do you want to read this file?" and if I answer YES it immediately proceeds with flashing. I was expecting another confirmation after the file is read. Maybe you should change the question to "Do you want to flash this file?"
There is a QVL for SSDs yes.
Not that I know of. If your DVD drive worked before it should now.
As for the questions:
1) Why do you want to do this? I've never tried it. Try it and see what happens.
2) Not sure, I wouldn't worry about it (likely detection purposes).
3) Which terms specifically?
EZ flash prompts twice before flashing (point at file once, then final confirm). It's enough.
If you have any more support queries please contact your local ASUS office. I only cover NA users - I am not global support.
I am asking you because there is a high probability you know this stuff, Z87 boards and their settings are so new that nobody has any experience with it yet.
- Two other new Intel tech (can't remember names now, disabled by default)
- Asus Multicore enhancement
- Everything in DIGI+ power control
- Everything in CPU power management
- HW Fast boot
A lot of options have useless help in the form of "XYZ -- Controls XYZ, values can be Enabled or Disabled, default is Enabled" without telling you what is it for or at least what each setting does when set to Enalbed or Disabled.
Finally, why it is not possible to disable Intel AMT / MEI?
Last edited by audiofreak; 06-07-2013 at 03:52 AM.
1 On the ASUS support page. If not up now they will be soon.
2 Dont think it matters
3. Some C-States have impact on SATA performance.
Multcore enhance clocks all cores at turbo frequency instead of Intel default turbo policy.
Go to ROG forums and read my OC guides for DIGI+ section (older guides have the info). You don't need to adjust though, leave at auto.
For everything in CPU Management Read up on C-State tech (power gating of various sections of CPU). The rest is pretty easy to work out if you read the name. And you dont really need to change anything in there. Anything disabled or enabled is done so either for power saving, performance or thermal reasons.
HW FAST BOOT enables UEFI fast boot feature with compatible GPUs etc to reduce BOOT times.
MEI is needed by the platform for various things from POST routines to access for temperature and on the fly changes. Can't be "disabled", would not work.
My flashing never does what your does. You might have pressed enter twice. And you wanted to flash right? Otherwise why were you even in the EZ flash section? I always get prompted to read the file and then to update UEFI. That's more than enough in my book. No need for any more than that so I won't be suggesting any changes to the process.
Rest of your questions please direct at your local support.
Apart from the first one which is necessary, I am almost sure I don't need any of the other three.Code:1. Intel? Management Engine Interface 2. Intel? Dynamic Application Loader 3. Intel? Identity Protection Technology (Intel? IPT) 4. Local Management Service
Intel AMT is a business oriented feature, not to mention it has nothing to do with overclocking from Windows and can pose a security risk if left enabled without being properly configured and accounted for because it enables REMOTE management of the PC through an out of band network communication. That is what I meant when I asked why I cannot disable it, sorry if my wording was not clear but I am really tired.
I have also noticed that some of those components do not uninstall properly (errors in the event log keep showing even after uninstall).
I would really appreciate to be able to install just the driver for MEI (no services, no applications) like I was doing with Z68 and also drivers only for AMDA00 (ACPI\PNP0A0A device) to remove the "Unknown device" from the Device Management because I am not using any of the Asus provided applications for on the fly tweaking.
But still, even if I did accidentally hit Enter twice the important and basic rule of user interface programming is that before every critical user input you flush the keyboard buffer to be sure that cat didn't walk over the keyboard or that the user did not accidentally press same key more than once which can also happen if the key contacts bounce or if the repeat rate is too fast.
Thanks the info and the patience, I am going to get Samsung 840 Pro 256GB to replace OCZ Vertex 2 and 3 which I have now.
I will post how it works later in the evening.
Too many custom needs for me to get involved in. Not going to suggest this kind of stuff sorry. Would rather focus our resources on making sure things work rather than getting into the nitty gritty of individual installation needs.
AS for your buffer suggestion I am just going to chock that up to you being overly tired. You didn't even know the file prompts twice and it doesn't happen that fast. You are getting overly worried about nothing.
Any more suggestions for improvements or your personal needs, its up to your local support. You can tell them whatever you need - it's their job to help you. I have enough to cover without taking on everybody else's work for them so it's my last response about all of this. There's only so much time I have on my hands for work outside our region. Thanks
Enjoy your board. Take a rest if you're tired. Hope everything goes well for you.
Any news when memtweakit will be able to change timings real-time?
Guess the change comes with updated MEI firmware
Raja, what cooling setup was used in the stability testing shown? Thank you.
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The ASUS Mini Bar...
Is it supposed to do something? There seems to be no user functionality other then to remind myself that I'm currently "flying" with the high performance plane (icon) setting in AI Suite III. When I try to click on it nothing happens? I can click on the little white triangle and the ribbon will shrink over and hide to the right side of the screen. It seems pretty pointless unless I'm missing something? I can't even find a way to permanently disable it from loading... I have click the little check mark every time I reboot?
Last edited by PolRoger; 06-07-2013 at 12:54 PM.
4770K/3770K on a Dimastech Bench table.