Vishera 5Ghz FX-9000/8770

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

8.6 I got...Not bad, but the Cinebench is not the best for FX-8350. I heard, there are some optimalization in new Cinema for FX CPUs . If is it true, this FX-9000 will be good, because there is not much really stable FX-8350 at 5 GHz with lowend watter cooling or highedn air (maybe 20% max.).


There is average performance in real apliacations of modern CPUs.

btw C22, OK, but 4800 MHz Haswell is imposible in retail..I have retail and Im happy for 4550 MHz, no more. ES are better on OC and maybe u know it

I don't know my retail haswell seems pretty good on volts, 1.275v 32M 5Ghz 4c 8t at 10c, so I am thinking it is going to be another binning game.

[Zloyd]

Wow do hope this is true, 5ghz 8 cores would be freaking great , dont really care if it uses 50w more or whatever more as long as it can hold that speed and temps are ok.

[FlanK3r]

l0ud_sil3nc3: what cooling and batch? I have not luck for Intel CPUs . As if it knew Im focused at AMD, lol.

[behrouz]

it Would be excellent if AMD Drops TDP from 210W to max 140W at factory clock speed.AMD should Improves Vishera's TDP, Compare to current Inte's CPU ,Vishera run at 150 to 200W which is high.

[zir_blazer]

it Would be excellent if AMD Drops TDP from 210W to max 140W at factory clock speed.AMD should Improves Vishera's TDP, Compare to current Inte's CPU ,Vishera run at 150 to 200W which is high.

Yeah, because AMD can make miracles like if they were Jesus or something...
The only rabbit out of the hat that AMD could pull out is a new Vishera revision that could reduce power consumption and increase Frequency headroom like they did with Phenom II Deneb RB-C3 vs RB-C2, or going even more back in time, Athlon XP Thoroughbred Rev. B vs A. But we're talking about 10%? 15% if lucky?

I think that there are too many people that got hopes way too high. 10 years ago, people used to call things like this "Emergency Edition". And that one was better, you were at least getting a Xeon MP die with the extra Cache L3. The GeForce Titan did the same thing, giving you access to a downgraded Server part aimed for Desktop. This one, assuming it is true, is instead just a mere factory overclocked, overpriced Vishera. For the price, you may as well purchase a good water cooling kit, the cheapest 83xx Vishera, and get it to 5 GHz by yourself...

[informal]

Ok guys, finally some computex news (still not official by AMD though). Thanks goes to Hexus' and overclocknet's CPU forums .
It's semi-official, there will be a "high-TDP" FX models presented soon, gigabyte lists it as 5Ghz AMD FX lol
Original source is donanimhaber.

[behrouz]

lol ? 5GHz = 220W !!! ,but will match Geforce Titan , Geforce 780 = 220W to 250W

Jaguar is 20% faster than Bobcat in Single Thread ,so ST at least should be 10% higher than Vishera in C11.5 (8.52*10% = 9.372 Close to 3770).if we want to match 4770 (10.51) , ST should be 23% faster than Vishera which i think it's impossible to happen.

[informal]

Stock 4770K gets 8.14pts in C11.5. Stock 8350 gets 6.92pts. Stock 5Ghz Vishera (with high TDP of 220W ) should score 1.2x6.92=8.3pts in C11.5.

[demonkevy666]

Ok guys, finally some computex news (still not official by AMD though). Thanks goes to Hexus' and overclocknet's CPU forums .
It's semi-official, there will be a "high-TDP" FX models presented soon, gigabyte lists it as 5Ghz AMD FX lol
Original source is donanimhaber.

I bet that's a Typo.

[Rollo]

Stock 4770K gets 8.14pts in C11.5. Stock 8350 gets 6.92pts. Stock 5Ghz Vishera (with high TDP of 220W ) should score 1.2x6.92=8.3pts in C11.5.

I think you avatar is a picture of one of these 5GHz Visheras behind a dragon cutout.

BUT this is exactly what I've been saying AMD needs to do to have parts in the enthusiast market.

You sell the chips you have (8350, 7970) not the chips you wish you had. And some people will pay for a guaranteed OC.

[Rollo]

I bet that's a Typo.

Doesn't look typo to me, and I bet these parts compete.

[stangracin3]

I bet that's a Typo.

Considering it also says high-TDP in the line below , I doubt it.

Doesn't look typo to me, and I bet these parts compete.

you feeling okay? jkjk

[Evantaur]

Doesn't look typo to me, and I bet these parts compete.

...seriously man are you ok?

[stangracin3]

...seriously man are you ok?

haha I'm not the only one...

[AMDforME]

Well TechPowerUp has confirmed that AMD is releasing a 220w Vishera FX-9000 with a base clock of 4.8 GHz. and Turbo mode of 5.0 GHz.

"Mid-April, we learned that AMD was working on its next "TWKR" chip for overclockers, based on the existing "Vishera" silicon. It turns out it is, and scrapes 5.00 GHz frequency at some unreal TDP levels for a client processor. SweClockers reports that AMD is working on at least two new socket AM3+ FX-series processors to make it competitive against Intel's 4th generation Core series. Among these are the FX-9000, and the FX-8770. The FX-9000 leads the pack with 4.80 GHz out of the box clock speed, and a TurboCore frequency of 5.00 GHz. Clock speeds of the FX-8770, on the other hand, haven't been disclosed. A catch here is the TDP of these chips. Two hundred and twenty Watts! The jump from 3.80 GHz to 4.80 nearly doubled TDP from 125W to 220W. Prices of the two remain under the wraps. AMD plans to unveil the two at E3, sometime between 11th and 13th June..."

http://www.techpowerup.com/184960/am....html#comments

For the non-believers this will run on a highend AM3+ mobo with a quality VRM design and proper heatsink.

[NEOAethyr]

This is amd's plan?
That's just freaking awesome! , ... lol I'm just messing.
It's the stupidest thing I've seen in some time, and I've been seeing alot of that lately.

This really gotta be one of the dumbest things a consumer can buy.
They might as well buy the 4350, seems like it's the same exact thing.
Maybe even worse in some cases who knows.
This can't even compete with the 3770k, 77w, even with it's monster of a clock.
And intel is actually cheaper now lol, less then $200 probably, I mean it's possible to get the 4770k for around $200 though not online.

Well, I almost wanna say I told ya so heh heh hah.
Waiting for there stocks to drop to rock bottom then if I were and investing man, which I'm not, well...
I really hope no one bails there bum out though.
They can take ati to the grave with them lol.
Keeyah I know that sounds bad.

[Ace123]

Take it easy dude.

[The Stilt]

There won't be a chip with 220W TDP, thats for sure.

There simply are no motherboards which could provide such amount of power, either.

I'll throw you some of the official numbers, these are the electrical requirements specified by AMD:

AM3r2 - Infra A = 125W TDP (FR, e.g. FX-8350)

IDD TDC: 110A (Thermal design current, the maximum amount of current the VRM must be able to provide constantly).
IDDSpike (Max): 145A (The maximum amount of current the VRM must be able to provide for periods shorter than 10ms).

TDC-Spike delta = 35A (31.81%).

The 140W TDP envelope which existed for 45nm parts has the same current limitations as 125W TDP envelope as the Core VDD was higher on 45nm parts.

A 220W TDP part would have IDD TDC value of ~ 194A and IDD-Spike value of ~ 255A.

There are 170 Core VDD supply pins on AM3r2 package, each with 0.325mm diameter.
While the cross-section being 0.0829 square mm, the maximum amount of current transferable is around 255A

Besides, a 32nm chip which requires 220W will never hit 4.8GHz, let alone 5.0GHz.
The rare parts which are able to do it draw <180W at those clocks.

[informal]

Stilt are you saying the above image by Gigabyte is a mistake (done by GB) or that the official leaked TDP is overstated and will be less than 180W?

[STEvil]

Stilt are you saying the above image by Gigabyte is a mistake (done by GB) or that the official leaked TDP is overstated and will be less than 180W?

Maybe (just maybe) its an advertisement to overclockers...

[informal]

Yup, it's possible.

[FlanK3r]

what about eample C5F-Z? This board could have support for 400A (one choke around 40-50A)...There is 8+2....

[The Stilt]

It is extremely difficult to make the VRM which can constantly provide 200W+.
Even with the best available components (IRF PowerIRStage, TI PowerBlock) the real world efficiency is <85%.
With a 220W TDP CPU the VRM would dissipate 38.82W of power at 85% VRM efficiency.

It would require a large heatsink with a fan(s) on it.

Of course there must be a hefty "safety margin" too in case the user decides to overclock the CPU even further.

95% of AM3r2 motherboards would burn like a torch if you throw in a 200W+ TDP CPU and there wouldn't be any thermal / OCP protections.

C5F-Z can provide up to 200W, however the VRM heatsink will require some HEAVY airflow to keep the VRM within operational temperatures (<130 celsius). The VRM itself can provide over 400W of power (I've tried) however in this scenario the VRM temperature is well under zero (LN2).

Personally I would rather see a 125W rated part operating at 4.4GHz base (without Turbo).
Makes much more sense and would be available for more people.

[FlanK3r]

This will be maybe only limited edtion of 1000 pieces or somethig...Hope, we will see later after E3. Now are these all info speculations.

[Greg83]

still a dispute after that gigabyte slide?
just trolling or that serious of phycosis