It's gonna be my son and I's first water cooling rig. I looked on frozencpu and there's quite a few. I'm used to using AS5 and MX2 for all my air cooled rigs. What's the latest and greatest? Thanx.
It's gonna be my son and I's first water cooling rig. I looked on frozencpu and there's quite a few. I'm used to using AS5 and MX2 for all my air cooled rigs. What's the latest and greatest? Thanx.
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
Hey Rob9, there are a lot of decent TIM comparison guides out there (Skinneelabs etc) that have a lot of good in depth information.
MX2 is still a really good TIM however its been superseded by MX4 and I'm not sure if it's still being readily made as it once was.
I personally have had great success with Prolimatek PK1 and Indigo Extreme (the latter being awesome once you get past the setup phase).
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How about Innovation Cooling Diamond "24 Carat" Thermal Compound?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/72..._48_Grams.html
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
If you look at the TIM test results from reputable review sites you will see that there is only 1C-2C difference amongst the top 25+ TIMs. Any of these TIMs will work just fine for air or water cooling including AS5 and MX-2, as the test results confirm.
There are several threads here and in every forum on TIMs and some folks buy into all the hype and ignore the fact that 1C-2C doesn't change the CPU performance at all so use whatever TIM you like as your CPU will never know the difference between any of the top 25+ TIMs or even mayonnaise - in a pinch. It's true.
Amen for AMDforME. It's not a big deal. Mx-2 is perfectly fine, as long as it's not Great Dane poop, it's known to stink at high temp loads.
It's called TIM. Not Grease.
All stock for now, no need for more, but it's gonna be soon methinks.
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Indigo Extreme is the best but expensive and only good for one use. I use AS5 until Im sure Im sticking with the current setup (everything is working). Then I clean off the AS5 and put on the Indigo Extreme pad.
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New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
How much higher will your CPU/GP/APU clock with Indigo or other expensive TIMs compared to MX-2 or AS5? The answer is it won't.
That being said buy whatever makes you happy as long as you understand there is no useful performance advantage to any one of the top ~(25) TIMs vs. the others.
My pick is whatever is the closest. I got 6 and I cannot tell the difference.
I go for simplicity. Something non-conductive that spreads easily. I used to use the diamond too, but its so hard to work with. MX-4 it and forget it.
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This is why I like indigo. Don't have to spread it. Just put it on and bolt it up correctly and be done with it. No spreading. But now that I returned my 3770k for a 4770k I'm considering going xtreme...
BTW, nice friggin Marneus Calgar avatar. Been playing 40k since the 90's. Got the new Eldar Codex in my hand as we speak.
Last edited by Rob94hawk; 06-08-2013 at 08:12 PM.
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
Here I thought that this was xtreme systems... where 1-2 degrees does matter...
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
If your CPU/APU/GPU doesn't allow you to OC higher from the 1C-2C change (and it won't), then what difference does it make other than in your mind and wallet? Extreme performance is what the goal is not an extreme lack of technical understanding or extreme gullibility to marketing hype. Many PC enthusiasts fail to understand they are being led like sheep.
Thankfully everyone isn't using LP on everything - especially their toast. A fool and his money...but it's your money, so enjoy.
Last edited by AMDforME; 06-10-2013 at 05:46 AM.
LP and LU have their uses, like between the IHS and the core in a de-lidded CPU, where they yield real world measurable temp differences over stock and none of the drawbacks matter much.
Would not consider the stuff for "normal" use though mostly because removal after a few months is pretty unfriendly.
Personally I use Gelid GC-Extreme for direct die and Prolimatech TK-1 for IHS... they were both readily available when I purchased them, seemed reasonably priced, both are easy to apply for the intended use (the Gelid is easy to spread and the TK-1 is very forgiving using the "line" approach) and seem to perform well.
Ended up using Noctua NT-H1. Still have the Liquid Pro but haven't used it yet.
How long does Liquid Pro last? 1 year? More?
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
Maybe ask on their forums? 1 year is forever here, most make changes before that. My MX-4 on my current build is over two years old and hasn't changed at all in temp load testing.
All stock for now, no need for more, but it's gonna be soon methinks.
Giga Xtreme 58 mobo i7 965 ES D0 step Corsair 1600 6 gig
SLI GTX470 EVGA
EK HF nickle blue top CPU block (free from Eddie)
Koolance 470 waterblocks
One big loop, two 120x3 rads. Pa 120.3 and XSPC RX 120x3. Swiftech 35x pump with V2 restop. GT AP15 fans.
Banchetto Tech Station
120 GB SSD, and a few other drives.
1000W UltraX3 PSU, 900 watt (1500VA UPS
23.999" Acer GD235hz and 24" Acer H243H
New rig: INWIN D-Frame, i7 4770k @ 4.7 Ghz/1.38V, Swiftech H220, MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming, Team Vulcan DDR3 1600, 9-9-9-24, Samsung 840 pro 256GB, EVGA GTX 780, Corsair 850W
Old rig:Antec 900/GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6
E6750 @ 3.5 GHz/Thermalright 120 extreme/MX2
CORSAIR Vengance 8GB
PNY 8800GT/Thermalright HR-03 GT
Old, old rig: FX-53/GIGABYTE K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra/1GB CORSAIR 3200XLPRO
X800XTPE/WD 74GB Raptor/250GB Caviar
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