AMD preparing 5GHZ CPU?

[vitchilo]

http://wccftech.com/amd-preparing-pi...-ghz-cost-795/

AMD Preparing Piledriver Based FX Centurion Processor Clocked at 5 GHz ? Would Cost $795

AMD Prepares FX Centurion Super Processor ? The Titan of CPUs?

The AMD FX Centurion chip is supposedly based on the Piledriver architecture, on which the FX-Vishera lineup is also based. However the FX Centurion is a special chip and is clocked at a massive clock frequency of 5 GHz, though it isn?t mentioned that whether this might be the base clock or turbo core frequency. If it is the base clock, then we would be looking at an even higher turbo core speed possibly beyond the 5 GHz barrier. You can compare this to the current flagship FX-8350 which turbos upto 4.2 GHz and you can probably take a hint at what kind of a beastly processor the FX Centurion would be.

So how about this as a rumour for a Friday morning? Though AMD will never go on record and confirm this, we have it on good authority that the chip-maker will soon be releasing a super-FX chip. Based on the same ?Vishera? architecture powering the current FX-8350, which runs at up to 4.2GHz, this new FX, codenamed ?Centurion?, is to be made available in very limited quantities.

This so-called Centurion is guaranteed to run at 5GHz, on air, though we don?t know exactly what voltage or supporting hardware will be required for this lofty speed. Hexus

[K404]

Would be much easier if it was a dual-core? (thinking along the same lines as the Intel Xeon 5698)

[vitchilo]

A dual core 800$ cpu? No way.

[Rollo]

No way AMD gets anyone to spend $800 on a Piledriver based CPU.

After one year of zero sales, AMD execs scratch their heads and say,"You mean we had to make a better part for people to pay the big money for it?! So THAT'S how intel does it! You can't just price it high and expect people to pay. Back to the drawing board guys!"

[hersounds]

Hummmmm....Maybe because his "intelligence service " report say that Haswell does 5 ghz by air easily?...something strange here

[xVeinx]

There's always someone who will buy it. Expensive? Yes. Practical? No. Fun? You bet.

[AMDforME]

Folks this RUMOR is being discussed in another thread here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...FX..-Centurion

As far as AMD, FX sales have been excellent and for good reason because Vishera delivers excellent performance at a wonderful price. FX-8350's routinely OC P95 stable @ 4.6 GHz.-4.8 GHz. I do not see a 5.0 GHz. Vishera based CPU being good value @ $795. however. If AMD were to sell these at this price or similar, they would be for bragging rights only similar to the way over-priced, under-performing $1000. Intel CPUs.

[god_43]

Folks this RUMOR is being discussed in another thread here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...FX..-Centurion

As far as AMD, FX sales have been excellent and for good reason because Vishera delivers excellent performance at a wonderful price. FX-8350's routinely OC P95 stable @ 4.6 GHz.-4.8 GHz. I do not see a 5.0 GHz. Vishera based CPU being good value @ $795. however. If AMD were to sell these at this price or similar, they would be for bragging rights only similar to the way over-priced, under-performing $1000. Intel CPUs.

no offense but you sound like an amd ad....if they ever made ads anyways lol.

[FlanK3r]

From my experience with few Bulldozers chips and few Visheras chips. Vishera chips are really better in OC around 150 MHz average. This is a lot, but not small value. OC power consumption of Vishera is much lower than Bulldozer with the same settings. IPC is clock to clock 5-8% in real aplications and more than 10% in games. You can find many test in internet about this clock to clock comparison. But many people forgot this things...
If will be true, Im ready for 750 dollars AMD chip. No problem pay money for binned AMD.

[qcmadness]

Once the single-thread performance deficiency disappear, Vishera-4M is faster than IvyBridge-4C in all regards.

[AMDforME]

no offense but you sound like an amd ad....if they ever made ads anyways lol.

I think you misunderstood my post...

How does saying that I don't think a $795. 5.0 GHz. Vishera chip is a good value - constitutes an AMD ad? The facts are the facts. Vishera has sold well because it's a good CPU at an excellent price. That doesn't mean that I feel that a 5.0 GHz. clocked Vishera is worth $795. when the FX-8350 that sells for $200. will reliably OC to 4.6-4.8 GHz. The $1000 Intel CPUs are for suckers as many websites have concluded in their reviews.

Most people would consider my comment above a well reasoned, logical comment - unlike the fanbois and hate filled comments that are routinely posted here.

[Fraggle]

Blah blah...my 955 runs at 4.2 GHz on air already and I bet it`s faster that that bull at 5GHz.

[Chrono Detector]

I wonder how much power this CPU will consume because Piledriver does consume a lot of power under load. Lets hope AMD did find a way to reduce the power draw, and not to mention the heat it produces as well.

[Fraggle]

Is the IPC even better than P2 yet?

[informal]

Is the IPC even better than P2 yet?

In some stuff it actually is, in other not so much. Crude approximation is that PD has around 0.9x of the family 10h's IPC, on average. But then it has 8 threads so when MTed software is ran, the small deficit in IPC and even the shared hardware(decoder,fp unit) performance "hit", are water under the bridge - it crushes even X6 in most workloads that are threaded. All that with 4 dual threaded fp units.

[Fraggle]

Maybe I`ll wait a couple more generations then as I mostly game...

Thanks for the info x

[Greg83]

bin fx 8350's that do 5Ghz with 125w tdp.
if it was something other then that, the price would not be so high. only employee wages can make such costs.

[informal]

bin fx 8350's that do 5Ghz with 125w tdp.

On 32nm that cannot be done unfortunately.

[Rollo]

Maybe I`ll wait a couple more generations then as I mostly game...

Thanks for the info x

This.

[Greg83]

well jaguar cores were based on something and they scaled better from 0.8-0.9v then any higher voltage would provide.
prob the required voltages to fit 5Ghz in the 125TDP envelope. cause these have to be done for the PWM with 125W regulated as standards.
and with binning and costs of $795 it is very possible the piledriver cores, have the same thing going on with jaguar with better scaling in a certain voltage range for a 1% of processors.

So $2-$3 an hour wages in china for binning to find which processors boot at 0.8-0.9v at 5Ghz and which ones do it 72 hours stable with stress testing. The $795 price is found.
So even if it takes them 100 work hours not including stress testing stability. It will create maybe 100 jobs. To make this small run batch of processors. For the extreme overclockers whom want to play around with what can the 5Ghz piledriver at 125W tdp and default 0.9v hit when overclocked. all cherry picked paid for, instead of just a few hour cherry pick reviewers would have seen in the past. So prob a new world record creator for raw Ghz.

[informal]

well jaguar cores were based on something and they scaled better from 0.8-0.9v then any higher voltage would provide.
prob the required voltages to fit 5Ghz in the 125TDP envelope. cause these have to be done for the PWM with 125W regulated as standards.
and with binning and costs of $795 it is very possible the piledriver cores, have the same thing going on with jaguar with better scaling in a certain voltage range for a 1% of processors.

So $2-$3 an hour wages in china for binning to find which processors boot at 0.8-0.9v at 5Ghz and which ones do it 72 hours stable with stress testing. The $795 price is found.
So even if it takes them 100 work hours not including stress testing stability. It will create maybe 100 jobs. To make this small run batch of processors. For the extreme overclockers whom want to play around with what can the 5Ghz piledriver at 125W tdp and default 0.9v hit when overclocked. all cherry picked paid for, instead of just a few hour cherry pick reviewers would have seen in the past. So prob a new world record creator for raw Ghz.

First of all Jaguar and PD are two totally different designs done on two totally different process nodes. Not comparable in any way. The only thing they have in common is that AMD made both, that's it.
Also this:

For the extreme overclockers whom want to play around with what can the 5Ghz piledriver at 125W tdp and default 0.9v hit when overclocked.

... is some wishful thinking. There is no way 5GHz 8T PD core can fit in in that power envelope and there is no way it can be running at 0.9V.

[Greg83]

well they gotta keep in standards right. the ATX standard says. peak 18amp per 12v rail. so they'd aim for a 15amp use of the rail. 0.9v times 15amp would be 135 tdp.
we have no ideas what some of them could have done yet. they're not tested. they're baked and shipped.

[informal]

We have no clue if this rumor is even true (read Stilt's post in AMD section, he knows his stuff).

[Greg83]

well it is likely true that amd would be attempting such. but whether or not it is feasible will determine if it comes to market.
what is the harm in hiring one guy at $2-$3 an hour, to search through 1000 processors to see if it is possible.

[Rollo]

no offense but you sound like an amd ad....if they ever made ads anyways lol.

They make ads, and you are reading some in this thread.