AMD FX.. Centurion?

[BenchZowner]

The only way I see it happening is being anything but a FX-8XXX equivalent ( lower core count for sure ).

The Stilt has already covered more than enough points and reasons as to why it is very very highly unlikely if at all a possibility.

[tbone8ty]

ok great a 5ghz chip... but a $800???

get the F out

[leo5111]

ok great a 5ghz chip... but a $800???

get the F out

No Kidding, at that price it better do 8ghz on air....

[FlanK3r]

Im ready for it, entusiasm is only for the biggest fans . 8GHz+ LN2 I hope...5400 MHz benchable in hard benchmarks with my H100? Why not, awesome!

[BenchZowner]

Im ready for it, entusiasm is only for the biggest fans . 8GHz+ LN2 I hope...5400 MHz benchable in hard benchmarks with my H100? Why not, awesome!

You do know that most of the time, the great on stock/air chips rarely do great on LN2 right ?

[FlanK3r]

I found onyl this: very good validation on air=good or very good with LN2 . But low vid are good with low voltage on air and after very hot in stress....
My 5650 MHz FX hit 8140 MHz with LN2
my 5740 MHz FX...we will see next time (i think, it will be 8 GHz+ chip too)

[ilkkahy]

Geesh.. this "rumour" is most likely put out by Hexus themselves to get some page visits. I would understand that kind of product somehow if it took the performance crown, but 5ghz fx would still get raped all around by intel cpus. Also the power consumption would be way too high so i personally put this news to bull category.

[leo5111]

Im ready for it, entusiasm is only for the biggest fans . 8GHz+ LN2 I hope...5400 MHz benchable in hard benchmarks with my H100? Why not, awesome!

why not? because for that price you could have a 3930K and good motherboard for that price that smokes it like a ing cigarrette.....

[FlanK3r]

3930K never hit 8 GHZ . I have both....3930k, fx-8350 and many others, so this is not the "problem". But feelings, love, I must have most of all interesting CPUs. If you have example 7 GHz IB for sale, u must buy it for 1000 dollars. Only crazy man sold it for classic price . And if Centurion is binned CPU for good overclocking, why not

[leo5111]

i wasnt talking about clock speed, but a 3930K that does even 4.8 or so would probably match it speed wise...

[skline00]

I know for sure Intel will release in the next 2-3 months a Haswell 4770k that most likely will not be more than 1/2 the price of the Centurion. It will most likely outperform a 5Ghz Centurion.

[informal]

We are still discussing this "centurion" rumor while we have no reason to believe it will actually happen. What is more likely is that AMD will just release FX8370 or whatever they will call it, a 4.2/4.4Ghz stock/turbo part with same 125W tdp rating. This will most likely be their response , if you can call it that, to 4770K. Since 4770K will be just a minor speed bump vs 3770K, AMD does not need centurion or anything like that to compete with haswell. Where they lose badly against 3770K , they will do even worse (slightly worse tho). Where they do good against 3770K already they will do equally good or slightly worse Vs 4770K, provided they do launch this clock bumped "8370" model. If it can clock to ~5Ghz on air then even better for AMD , but I suspect that in either stock or OC case FX will still be drawing a lot of power. This they cannot fix easily as they do need SR @ 28nm.

[FlanK3r]

skline00: Haswell will be average "only" about 5-7% better than Ivy clock to clock. Sometimes 0%, sometimes +10%.

[vario]

skline00: Haswell will be average "only" about 5-7% better than Ivy clock to clock. Sometimes 0%, sometimes +10%.

You must realize that intel for some time now, releases as little as they possibly can due to AMD being non competetive, they have vast clock / power/ core count headroom to explore, AMD as is ,is at physical boundaries what they can get with their current technology.
As for centurion whole idea seems totally unrealistic ,they would have to have some newer stepping/design to achieve a cpu worth over 8 hundred bucks.However if they did, they would immedietely release it as a desktop CPU in order to get some real cash going ,specially in server marketplace.
Last time intel got really competetive with AMD was with bloomfield, and we got triple channel bigger dies at decent prices, then it became obvious bulldozer was either not ready or vaporware (at the time).Maybe intel got wind of these mythical 45nm bulldozer prototypes which were canned.
Anyhow Centurion is either just a hyped up binned piledriver (and NOT with a 5ghz clock) or just ISNT.I bet on the second.

[FlanK3r]

maybe...I think, there is next problem and its IPC...It is not possible get higher IPC as many years ago. Future if CPUs is heteregenous+multicore+instruciton set and good software support (AVX looks promising, XOP, etc). Without is impossible get more and more.

[Daveburt714]

Just curious if anyone has tested an xx13 (2013) batch? Has the 32nm process improved any?

From the Vishera's I've had 5Ghz stable on air sounds almost impossible...

[FlanK3r]

I have still 3x older FX-8350...I can try find some 2013 for fun...But Im thinking, better chips are now ready for some FX-8370 or so