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    Those must be 2 or 4Gbit ICs. As I don't know about BBBG much, I didn't add them to the first post.
    But I believe those won't be anything spectacular, otherwise makers would be using them on the non-trivial models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex-Ro View Post
    They looked exactly like BBSE chips,E91xxxxxx,but i am pretty sure they are not BBSE,meaning 2200 can't boot without 9-10-9 and still not stable regarding voltage,can't even do 8-9-8 at 2000....
    Quote Originally Posted by TaPaKaH View Post
    some BBSE can be this bad
    So far I've seen three kits with their HS removed, and all of them were Elpida BBSE OEM/eTT. I agree with Sam, I think they're pretty bad BBSE. A picture would have been very nice though!

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    Anyone know anything about Elpida "BBBG" found on Kingston ValueRam?
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    @mockingbird
    Those must be 2 or 4Gbit ICs. As I don't know about BBBG much, I didn't add them to the first post.
    But I believe those won't be anything spectacular, otherwise makers would be using them on the non-trivial models.
    They're 4Gb ICs ( J4208BBBG ), but right now I can't even find them on Elpida's site. I'd prefer the sticks with D9PFJ chips.


    Alright, since it has been brought up by Alex-Ro, Splave and XBrytanX, I'll share my private list of Elpida OEM chips and some speculations. Feel free to correct me and please don't blame me if I'm wrong!

    For almost a year I've collected all the info I could find about those chips and put them in a list:

    1Gb
    E904A8BR9401 (G.Skill 2200 9-9-9 1.65V, F3-17600CL9D-4GBXMD, white stripes, BBSE -> OC result)
    E904A8BR9041 (G.Skill 2133 9-9-9 1.65V, F3-17000CL8D-4GBXMD -> BBSE)
    E906A8B09417 (G.Skill Trident)
    E913A8B09409 (GeIL 1800 8-8-8 1.6(5)V, GE36GB1800C8TC 3x2GB, white stripes, BBSE?)
    E913A8BRR402 (A-Data 2200 9-9-9 1.65V, no white stripes -> BBBG)
    E914A8B0940N (Mushkin 1600 7-8-7 1.65V, 998679, white stripes, BBSE)
    E915A8BR940A (G.Skill 2133 9-9-9 1.65V, Perfect Storm, white stripes, BBSE -> OC result)
    E917A8BR9402 (G.Skill 2133 8-9-8 1.65V, F3-17000CL8D-4GBXMD, white stripes, BBSE -> OC result)
    E917A8B0940G (G.Skill 2133 9-9-9 1.65V, F3-17066CL9T-6GBPS)
    E917A8B09402 (TeamGroup 2000 9-9-9 1.65V, TXD32048M2000HC9-L, white stripes, BBSE)
    E918A8B0940C (GeIL 2133 9-9-9 1.65V, GGU34GB2133C9DC, white stripes, BBSE)
    E918A8B09404 (GeIL 2133 9-9-9 1.65V, BBSE, bad )
    E919A8B08405 (Apacer Aeolus, 2200 10-10-10, 2x1GB, white stripes)
    E920A8BRR488 (G.Skill 1866 9-9-9 1.65V, F3-15000CL9D-4GBRH, 0640, 938)
    E922A8B0940E (GeIL 2133 9-9-9 1.65, GU34GB2133C9DC, white stripes -> BBSE)
    E922A8B09412 (GeIL 1600 7-7-7 1.65V, GE32GB1600C7DC)
    E924A8B0940C (G.Skill 1333 8-8-8 1.5V, F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK, 0640, 1128)
    E927A8B0940J (G.Skill 1.65V, white stripes, BBSE)
    E928A8B0940B (G.Skill 2000 9-9-9 1.65V, F3-16000CL9D-4GBRH, 0640, 942)
    E929A8B0940E ( G.Skill 2000 9-9-9 1.6V, F3-16000CL9T-6BGRH, white stripes, BBSE)
    E940A8B0W439 (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL, 0640, 951)
    E941A8B0R409 (A-Data 2200 9-9-9 1.65V, AX3U2200GB2G9-DG2, BBSE)
    E942A8D0940T (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT, 0640, 950)
    E945A8D09411 (G.Skill 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ, 0640, 1000 9-11-9 1.65V)
    E950A8D0R410 ( G.Skill 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V, F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL, 0640, 1001 )
    E004A8B0940x (G.Skill 2133 8-9-8 1.65V, 0640, 1108, BBSE -> OC result, code not very clear)
    E010A8DA9404 (G.Skill 1600 7-8-7 1.6V, F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM, 0640, 1015)
    E018A8DA940C (G.Skill, Sam_OCX: BDBG, 2100 9-10-9 Zosma)
    E019A8DA9403 (G.Skill 1333 7-7-7 1.5V, F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH, 0640, 1027)
    E019A8DA941G (G.Skill 1333 7-7-7 1.35V, 0640, no stripes, 1600 6-8-6 1.7V 32M, BDxx?)
    E025A8DAxxxxJ (OCZ 1037)
    E027A8DA943W (G.Skill 1600 7-8-7 1.5V, F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI, 0640, 1032)
    E027A8DR840G (OCZ 1333 9-9-9 1.65V, OCZ3G1333LV2G, OCZ X43E1288AK-13D 1033)
    E027A8DA8424 (Avexir 2000 9-9-9 1.65V, mixed stick with regular BBSE 0906)
    E034A8B094AJ (G.Skill 1600 7-8-7 1.6V, F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM, 0640, 1208)
    E036A8F0945H (Exceleram 1600 7-10-10 1.65V)
    U038A8FR9F39 (Kingston, D1288JEMFNGD9U, 1047)
    U039A8FR8A2C (Kingston 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, D1288JEMFPGD9U, 1042)
    E040A8F094R5 (Exceleram 1600 9-9-9 1.65V)
    E043A8FR9463 (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT, 0640, 1106)
    E044A8B0942Q (G.Skill 1600 6-8-6 1.6V, F3-12800CL6T-6GBPI, 0640, 1201)
    E105A8B0943G (G.Skill 1600 6-8-6 1.6V, F3-12800CL6D-4GBPI, 1800, 1415)


    2Gb
    E947V8A09422 (Avexir 1600 9-9-9 1.65V, AVD3U16000904G-3S, 1041A)
    E952V8A09420 (Winchip 2133 10-10-10 1.65V, WRBD32133C10U-4GX2, EDJ2108BASE??)
    E004V8A0941X (OCZ 2133 10-10-10 1.65V, OCZ3FXE2133LV8GK)
    E104V8CR94F4 (GEIL 1600 9-9-9-28, GEC38GB1600C9DC, BCSE?)
    E110V8CR94Gx (Corsair Vengeance)
    A116V8CR9405 (AMD memory, 1121)
    E117V8CR941A (G.Skill 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL)
    F119V8CR945W (Mushkin 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, 997005)
    F122V8CR94A5 (Mushkin 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, 997005)
    U124V8CR8F0B (G.Skill 1333 7-7-7 1.5V, F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH, 0640, 1130)
    F139V8CR942R (G.Skill 1333 7-7-7 1.5V, F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH)
    U144V8CR8A6L (GEIL 1600 9-9-9-28, GEC38GB1600C9DC, BCSE?)
    E221V8DR6437 (G.Skill 1600 11-11-11 1.5V, F3-1600C11S-4GNT, 1800, 1244, G.Skill D3 256M8GE9 1245 H3304A)
    U233V8DR70LY (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10600CL9S-2GBNS, 1800, 1242)
    U234V8DR70GS (G.Skill 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL, 1800, 1240)
    U234V8DR70H8 (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT, 1800, 1241, G.Skill D3 256M8GE9 1241 H33Z47)
    U239V8DR714B (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10666CL9D-8GBSQ, 1800, 1314, G.Skill D3 256M8GE9 1313 G7284C)
    U239V8DR715Y (G.Skill 1600 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-12800CL9D-8GBSQ, 1800, 1314, G.Skill D3 256M8GE9 1313 G7284C)
    F315V8DR649L (Apotop 1600 11-11-11 1.35V, L3A4Gx2-16CBDA)

    4Gb
    E153X8BR641Q (G.Skill 1600 10-10-10 1.5V, F3-1600C10D-16GAO)
    E153X8BR641K (G.Skill 1333 9-9-9 1.5V, F3-10666CL9S-8GBXL, 0640, 1211)
    F232X8BR644X (A-Data 1600 11-11-11, AD3U1600W8G11-B, 1600 9-10-10-28 / 1866 11-11-11-30 1.45V)

    A/E/U/F -> no idea
    xxx -> production date, year + week (9 -> 2009, 0 -> 2010 etc.; 14 -> 14th week)
    A/V/X -> density (A -> 1Gb, V -> 2Gb, X -> 4Gb)
    8 -> organization: x8
    A/B/C/D/F -> die revision
    0/A/R -> no idea
    xxxx -> four digits, numbers/letters -> no idea, might include speed bin/ power supply (voltage)

    Please note that ihog6hog has posted some thoughts on this at i4memory.
    Last edited by Don_Dan; 11-11-2014 at 05:44 AM. Reason: more ICs added

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    You can never have enough D9's.

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    This makes perfect sense, 7th symbol + lack/presence of stripes + density is what you need to decipher these Elpidas.
    Will put this info in first post, kudos to ihog6hog.
    Last edited by TaPaKaH; 04-11-2013 at 03:50 PM.

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    Does anyone know what IC's OCZ Platinum 1600 CL7 (OCZ3P1600LV6GK) have? 30e OK price from those?

    Just buyd G.Skill Pi 2200 CL7 for 60e, not bad deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmola View Post
    Does anyone know what IC's OCZ Platinum 1600 CL7 (OCZ3P1600LV6GK)
    My set are Micron D9JNM


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    Quote Originally Posted by C-N View Post
    My set are Micron D9JNM
    Then i can forget those. Thanks.
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    I had a set with Elpida BBSE, but it was pretty bad (1100 7-9-7 needed 1.80V)

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    What IC's on these? Looks like Hyper's or D9GTR's, but could it be BBSE's?

    http://uk.hardware.info/productinfo/...specifications

    Edit: Looks like those are specified to 2.1v so must be old micron ic's..
    Last edited by Asmola; 04-12-2013 at 10:55 PM.
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    Awesome thread Sam

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    time to confuse some of you guys. )

    7th symbol is B, but it definately not BBSE, no stripes and shape of IC differs from BBSE but looks very similar to PSC and BDBG
    but oc is BBSE like
    Last edited by gungstar; 04-24-2013 at 08:41 AM.

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    can you get a picture of the side, and copper tab placement?
    Quote Originally Posted by L0ud View Post
    So many opinions and so few screenshots

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    As per post #27 above:

    E941A8B0R409 (A-Data 2200 9-9-9 1.65V, AX3U2200GB2G9-DG2, BBSE)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gungstar View Post
    time to confuse some of you guys. )

    7th symbol is B, but it definately not BBSE, no stripes and shape of IC differs from BBSE but looks very similar to PSC and BDBG
    but oc is BBSE like
    Some of your posts contributed to my little theory, and now you come here and destroy it. Not cool, man, not cool.

    What do you think it is?

    Quote Originally Posted by stasio View Post
    As per post #27 above:

    E941A8B0R409 (A-Data 2200 9-9-9 1.65V, AX3U2200GB2G9-DG2, BBSE)
    Yeah, I added it based on his photo some time ago, I guess he already posted it in the Team Russia IC thread.

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    On 2133 c9 trident I have also ics marked as Elpida, without stripes, looking like PSC from the side - they do 1100 7-9-7-21 easily at 1,65v, might be some OEM-Elpida out of the joint venture with PowerchipSemiconductor, there were lots of charges PSC gave to Elpida for paying debts. I think I can leave the Heatspreaders on then

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    great thread man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by websmile View Post
    On 2133 c9 trident I have also ics marked as Elpida, without stripes, looking like PSC from the side - they do 1100 7-9-7-21 easily at 1,65v, might be some OEM-Elpida out of the joint venture with PowerchipSemiconductor, there were lots of charges PSC gave to Elpida for paying debts. I think I can leave the Heatspreaders on then
    You know this makes me want to re test my 2133 c9 Tridents because they seemed to stop at 2450 8-10-7-22 almost instantly, wonder if they are this hybrid PSC/BBSE dimm you speak of and if raising tRCD to 11 might help them clock higher.
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    gskillllin it!

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    Mine have trcd 10 limit above 1250 air, but need much voltage to lower cas and trp - but if yours have lower trcd-limit, raising to 11 might improve the previous result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splave View Post
    can you get a picture of the side, and copper tab placement?

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    2GB Geil ULTRA PC3-17000 CL=9-9-9-28 1,65v GU34GB2133C9DC

    all over net write they are BBSE ICs, but i dont think that info is relevant for all geil ultra 2133cl9
    i have here 2 kit geil ultra 2133cl9 , same behavior... all can pass 32m 2400 9-10-7-24 twcl7 , if set cl8 refuse boot
    if set twcl6 ..boot ,but fail 32m
    2600 cant boot even with loose latency/hight vdimm


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    I had 2 kits also,if yours can get 2400,mine were not capable of doing 32M doing DDR3-2200 9-10-9 stable at any voltage.This is one interesting fact,because i can't get how geil can guarantee DDR3-2133 9-9-9 stock,but my kits would fail DDR3-2200 no matter what :?

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    Same here... easy 2133 9-9-9@1.65v but no go 2400 no matter what timmings-voltage combination... went straight to 24/7 machine...

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    They need ridiculous high voltage for 1200 if they do this, all evo one and Ultra 2133c9 Kits I had years ago before realizing they are cr.. did 2200 9-9-9 around 1,65v and below, but failed 2133 cas7-9-7 at 1,65, and all had bbse, there are few ICs that can do 1066 trcd9 and Geil used no Hypers...

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    if Geil ultra and evo use BBSE ICs , definitely are the worst bbse and the cheap batch from elpida

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    Great thread again TaPaKaH

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    Quote Originally Posted by nachtfalke View Post
    if Geil ultra and evo use BBSE ICs , definitely are the worst bbse and the cheap batch from elpida
    suck on air is good chance they are beast on ln2 give it a shot bro
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    So many opinions and so few screenshots

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