AMD Jaguar news

[Hornet331]

Last I'd seen people talking about BoM on graphic cards the cost per GB of GDDR5 was at least half that. Bulk price per GB sounded like $15-25. Obviously the cost might be higher for end users, but especially considering scale of economics (GDDR5 is already widely mass produced and a semi-competitive market) I would think $40 per stick would be an average price for the middle end of frequency chips.

I go by the price increase they do for DDR3 modules, bulk price for a GB DDR3 is 3-4$, cheapest DDR 1GB sitcks are around 7-10$ so thats 3times the price increase. I already only assumed the price for GDDR5 with ~18$ per GB :p

[tbone8ty]

i know this isn't jaquar news but isn't richland coming out tomorrow?

edit: nm found other thread

[FlanK3r]

I dont think so (still no leaks at chinese web-no CPU-Z, superpi, nothing)...We will see morning.

[raghu78]

Richland.

Richland was shipping to OEMs when AMD talked at CES 2013 and in Q4 2012 earnings call. Richland is due for a launch this month. Richland is a tweaked Trinity with mild clock speed bumps. This is a Kaveri prototype. next generation APU dev system clearly says it. also the exciting thing about Kaveri is the usage of GDDR5 memory controller to feed the 512 GCN cores running at 1 Ghz. that would put kaveri just slightly slower than HD 7770, by around 10% . thats awesome. Also Kaveri is the first HSA APU with a truly unified memory address space and fully coherent memory between CPU and GPU.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...ets-gddr5.aspx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-unveiled.aspx

AMD seems to have a really nice product in Kaveri. If the Steamroller CPU cores in Kaveri can bring its single thread performance close to Nehalem that should be good enough to put it on a competitive footing with Intel Haswell core i3. Single thread it will be slower than Haswell but still quite good and the module architecture scales much better than HT for multithreaded performance putting Kaveri ahead in multi threaded performance. As for GPU and compute performance there is no doubt AMD Kaveri will be well ahead. Also architecture wise Kaveri will be significantly superior. couldn't be more excited.

[SKYMTL]

Richland was shipping to OEMs when AMD talked at CES 2013 and in Q4 2012 earnings call. Richland is due for a launch this month. Richland is a tweaked Trinity with mild clock speed bumps. This is a Kaveri prototype. next generation APU dev system clearly says it. also the exciting thing about Kaveri is the usage of GDDR5 memory controller to feed the 512 GCN cores running at 1 Ghz. that would put kaveri just slightly slower than HD 7770, by around 10% . thats awesome. Also Kaveri is the first HSA APU with a truly unified memory address space and fully coherent memory between CPU and GPU.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...ets-gddr5.aspx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-unveiled.aspx

A GDDR5 controller does not mean GDDR5 will be used on the platform.

[FlanK3r]

for better iGPU performance will be needed (GDDR5 near CPU die under one heatsink)

[SKYMTL]

for better iGPU performance will be needed (GDDR5 near CPU die under one heatsink)

I agree to a certain extent, especially for notebooks which can easily have a GDDR5 IC or two integrated directly into the platform. The only way such a move would be possible though would be to have the GPU and CPU sections of the die run their respective controllers asynchronously. Not only does a pair of memory controllers take up precious die space but there are several other technical hurdles to overcome as well. AMD could technically accomplish it though.

However, that approach becomes highly unlikely on a drop-in socket platform like the desktop. Having motherboard manufacturers add a dedicated buffer chip has been tried before and it has failed every time due costs, size limitations (remember, GDDR5 is only available in IC capacities up to 256MB and that won't change before year's end), integration hurdles, etc.

[G.Foyle]

Silicon interposers and other forms of advanced packaging can convert many these problems to other problems On-package memory from AMD has been sighted years ago, it might be close to volume manufacturing.

[Raqia]

They do this sort of memory integration with GPUs PCBs all the time. I don't see the issue with treating APUs in a similar way; 2-4GBs should be plenty for most consumers especially if MSFT releases a cut down OS for tablets or netbooks.